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polster2 December 16th, 2016 9:54pm

The FBI now agrees with the CIA's assessment that Russian hackers in the Kremlin attempted to release information to sway the election in favor of Donald Trump, according to The Washington Post on Friday. Is the FBI's conclusion surprising to you?

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SugarShaq
12/16/16 7:13 pm

Isn't this the same intelligence community that told us Iraq had WMD's?

polster2 US
12/16/16 7:15 pm

If you won't believe the experts, who are you going to believe, Alex Jones?

SugarShaq
12/16/16 7:17 pm

They probably hacked both parties, but the democrats didn't know to keep their mouths shut in emails. I would never put anything in email that I am afraid forbothers to see. We can thank the patriot act for that.

polster2 US
12/17/16 7:48 am

Sugar...I think what's more likely is that Republicans said stupid things via email as well, but the Russians wanted to see Trump elected, so they only leaked the DNC emails to Wikileaks.

SugarShaq
12/17/16 8:23 am

Would you ever put the outrageous things in email that Podesta did, as a leader of your party.

polster2 US
12/17/16 8:25 am

I don't know what things he put in emails, but if you think that the RNC emails were squeaky clean, you're incredibly naive.

SugarShaq
12/17/16 8:25 am

Then you didn't pay much attention the news did you.

polster2 US
12/17/16 8:27 am

Do you honestly believe that the RNC emails were squeaky clean? Are you five years old?

Maj Worth Economist
12/16/16 5:13 pm

I read the assessment that was released in July by one of the private cyber security agencies hired to investigate. Not surprised at all.

rons on top of the world MA
12/16/16 4:28 pm

Who the hell believes the Washington Post?
FAKE news squared!

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polster2 US
12/16/16 4:31 pm

Unlike what, Breitbart? Infowars? Lol!

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 4:17 pm

Why in the hell is the left yapping about this when, even if true, the US is constantly meddling in elections all over the world.
Hillary, Podesta, Wasserman-Schultz, etc were all caught stealing the DNC election from Sanders. No one blasts the content, just the leak/hack.

Personally, no. I don't think agency's ultimately responsible to Obama are credible. I don't think a president who meddled in elections in Israel and Brexit, to name just two, have any room to talk whatsoever, nor do I think the American people do. Screaming "it's Russia" is a bit like saying "we can't keep our systems safe!". I am sure Russia hacked the White House in 2014. That makes sense. Russia has a cyber warfare unit. So does Israel. So does the US. So does China. Apparently the US does not have the best.

If Russia hacked it, it would be more like Russia to use it for blackmail which means their chosen candidate would be Hillary. She is predictable. Trump is not.

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PhilliesFan Pennsylvania
12/16/16 3:59 pm

How else could this buffoon have gotten so many Bubba's to vote for him???

polster2 US
12/16/16 4:01 pm

Clinton was a pretty awful candidate.

PhilliesFan Pennsylvania
12/16/16 4:05 pm

Agreed, but not THAT bad. He is a flipping joke.

rons on top of the world MA
12/16/16 4:29 pm

She's a piece of crap is all.

lj74
12/16/16 3:52 pm

Fortunately Americans are smarter than that and realized that Podesta's emails were real news and not propaganda

badattitude no place like home
12/16/16 3:21 pm

It's like saying that Johny's a snitch and ratted me out so that means I didn't steal all the cookies. No, that means you got caught stealing the cookies.

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ikeurban21 B L C
12/16/16 3:02 pm

Why don't they go official

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polster2 US
12/16/16 3:12 pm

Brennan already sent a message out.

Luftwaffe N
12/16/16 3:52 pm

It's not official

polster2 US
12/16/16 3:54 pm

What is it going to take to convince you right wingers? Putin himself shouting from the roof of the Kremlin that he's responsible?

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 4:31 pm

What did it take for you to realize the US has meddled in elections across the globe?
Russia's use of obtained emails would be different. Very different.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 4:31 pm

What did it take for you to realize the US has meddled in elections across the globe?
Russia's use of obtained emails would be different. Very different.

Luftwaffe N
12/16/16 4:39 pm

Putin hasn't said anything, although many false accusations have been brought against him.

polster2 US
12/16/16 4:41 pm

Do you really think that Putin would admit to orchestrated a series of hacks against the United States?

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 4:46 pm

Actually, I would not be surprised if it was an American agency. The secret service seem to really dislike that woman.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 4:50 pm

youtu.be/akLBItPCcv8

Yes, here he is admitting he read American instructions to destabilize Russia.

How can I make this more clear. Yes, Russia hacks systems. All countries do. Would they then turn it over to Assange? Doubtful. They would use it differently.

polster2 US
12/16/16 4:52 pm

Why is it doubtful that they would turn those documents over to Assange?

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 5:00 pm

Putin would use them against Hillary. He would hold them until after Hillary won and then use them to blackmail her. She and the DNC stole the primary election from Sanders. Clearly. Everyone is now screaming about Russia but he strongarmed her into uranium sales. He could have insured a thaw in relations with her AND she is more predictable. Trump only said he would like to improve relations which should be everyone's goal. Some of those emails, could have insured lifting of sanctions. Clinton cares more for her foundation and power than the UN. He could have used them to his advantage. Now, what is in the White House is a very unpredictable guy who was even denied a building permit in Moscow.

I just don't see Putin going through Assange like this. I see a DNC insider or opposition operative going through Assange.

RussianThunder Russia and USA
12/16/16 5:01 pm

Also thank you for being respectful in your response.

badattitude no place like home
12/16/16 2:59 pm

If the hacking of emails that exposed how corrupt the DNC is and opened the eyes of voters is bad, then the press that uncovered the White House break in and the involvement of Nixon were just as guilty.

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polster2 US
12/16/16 3:01 pm

You're comparing Russian hackers in the Kremlin to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein?

polster2 US
12/16/16 3:11 pm

How can you compare Russian hackers to two journalists who used to work for The Washington Post in the early 1970s?

badattitude no place like home
12/16/16 3:19 pm

Because if we had real journalists working today to uncover the corruption that plagued the DNC we wouldn't need the Russians to do it for them. The left is just pissed off that they were caught and exposed.

polster2 US
12/16/16 3:21 pm

Are you suggesting that American journalists should have hacked into the DNC's computer system, or are you suggesting that Republican politicians should have done so?