Show of Hands

You say as you oppose our rapprochements with Iran and Cuba.

I agree, but holy crap look at your grammar...

Hey, he conveyed his points clearly in something at least vaguely resembling a few sentences. That's pretty good for a Republican :D.

You insult his grammar because you can't counter his points.

Seriously. I just watched him answer a question about Trump before the election and his response was brilliant, and manipulative but still light and charming on the surface. He's scary smart and knows how to manipulate people. That's what makes him so dangerous.

New World Order? Our nation building? Back in my day, we'd a called you a Commie.

Well our left are the commies now... so...

You don't believe in the elites admitted new world order? You don't understand our nation building ways? Or you don't know what the term means?

agree. nevermind his stance on civil rights...the guy is not good for anyone. at all.

Like Hitler.

And Mussolini

And Stalin.

Bill Cosby

And Spongebob.

I didn't know dictators were voted in democracy style these days? Interesting.

you think putin runs a democracy??

you think the Russians by and large keep voting for him? might want to check that again with his last "election" results and the controversy surrounding it.

Libertarians know he's the only one standing up to our non-libertarian principles (I.e. Our war whorish ways that's driven an entire region into chaos and created the migrant flow). He's protecting countries while we're destroying them. He's not our favorite but he's doing what has to be done to keep some sort of balance in the world (I.e. Keep us from continuing our destruction of the world).

Our leaders have ZERO moral high ground.

He has the support of his people, unlike our government (congress in particular).

i'm with you on the war profiteering that is our country...but putin has control of his people. not the support of them. there's a big difference

I don't really care about how he governs his people. I like him because he's the only one that's stood up to us, which has been one of the most important happenings in my lifetime.

hussein, noriega, bin laden, xi jinping, assad, milosovich, and qaddafi have also stood up to us. do you have similar respect for them?

i'm honestly asking. because i see little difference between them and putin.

and the point (i think anyway) is exactly how a people is governed. coercion and force doesn't rank high on favoribility with me anyways

Can't speak for all Libertarians, but I think he is the antithesis of virtually all libertarian ideals.And ya, I mean ALL.
Many of you are too young to remember the Cold War, but Putin, his political agenda and his despotic tactics are all a throwback to the disastrous Soviet leaders of that era. Rigged elections, manipulation of the constitution, state controlled media, suppression of critics, it's all straight 60s Soviet style Dictatorship.
He has tapped into his own demagogic political master strategy, just like Trump, to "Make Russia Great Again." His followers all yearn to return to their Golden Era as a Super Power complete with the creation of a new bloc of Soviet puppet states, and Russian spheres of influence, all pages torn directly from The Cold War leaders playbook. Ukraine is the first puppet, Syria is the first new sphere of influence. He is the most dangerous man in the world, because he has delusions of Soviet restoration without the means to create it without war.

john - followed

Yeah, he's looking out for Russia alright. That's why he's thrown their economy in the tank, killed his political opposition, and allowed his soldiers to die in secret wars in Donbas and Syria.

Stuck in the past eh?

It's like Obama said...'Reagan would be rolling over in his grave'.

Reagan should be worn out then after what the Marxists have done in the last eight years.

He saved Crimea from the same fate as East Ukraine (and Crimean's are very happy about it). As in, he didn't allow the neo-nazi coup scum of Ukraine/Soros to attack Crimea as they did immediately in the east.

Konnie, do you work for TASS, (the government controlled news agency)? Because what you said is almost word for word what they have said. Your tongue is stained with red Kool-Aid.

On the positive side, nothing has assured American Capitalistic hegemony in the last 50 years of world history than despotic socialism. As long as Russia and China remain oppressive states that only dabble in capitalism without the freedom it requires to flourish, they will never be a threat to the US short of war.

Opps, auto correct changed my "Kommie" to "Konnie".

no i do not work for russian news. i can just see that russia is the american scapegoat and sadly it is now used by the democrats much more often today. i personally prefer to look at the facts and base my opinion off of that - not the lies the state department or cia tells me. the situation in the crimea is not my opinion, i do not understand how americans can't understand the nuance of international conflict. the absolutist "vladimir is an evil dictator" rambling of our corporate owned media is vile.

sorry that america happens to also be an enemy to freedom in the world. it only seeks to create semi-satellite states out of its allies.

you seem to understand little of the nuances of what created the despotism in the ussr. one reason was the will for international despotism shown by the usa.

Yep, you have the "Party Line" down pat. Putin good, America bad. Talk about a lack of nuance. This just makes you sound like all the other despot deniers in Russian governing party. Of course they are not allowed to express a dissenting opinion without fear of government reprisal from the form head of Soviet Secret Service. I mean you do know you are allowed to say what want right? This is America, or have you hacked the SoH system from Russia. Oh, and no need to respond, you are clearly in the tank for yet another Russian dictator, until the time you are really in a tank headed for another oppressed Russian minority in one of the former Soviet Satellite counties Putin plans to "Annex." Go spread your propaganda somewhere else.

i don't like putin, i have a favorable view of him for speaking against american lies. i don't care for his policies but i do like to listen to him speak about international issues. i am not a russian hacker, you are a partisan hack for spewing such ignorance to anyone who disagrees with you. in reality neither country is good.

"I called Putin and told him to cut it out."

Even though his expected to be announced SOS is a friend of Putin and has been awarded the Russian Order of Friendship.

As Russia and America are both world powers, with Russia having refused to cooperate with the international establishment they are naturally enemies. As American interests and Russian interests often contradict each other but this is subject to change with trumps election.

Yeah, he's looking out for Russia alright. That's why he's thrown their economy in the tank, killed his political opposition, and allowed his soldiers to die in secret wars in Donbas and Syria.

He saved Crimean's from George Soros funded neo-nazi's in Ukraine and he's trying to save Syrians from the "rebels" (proxy terrorists) we've been funding for 6 years. And no Assad isn't great but he's a million times better than any other leader Syria would see if the "rebels" one. Put in is backing up countries while we're destroying them. Putin definitely has the moral high ground over US and our Rothschild/Soros overlords.

Can you make an argument in favor of Putin without relying on the crutch of antisemitism?

What anti Semitism?

Don't worry, Populist. You didn't say anything explicitly antisemitic yet. I was referring to Wally's perverse obsession with the Rothschild family and George Soros.

It's anti Semitic to point out the psychopaths leading our world to ruin? Yeah, okay. Did I say one thing about Jews? Didn't think so.

Right just like Hitler after WWI.

How can you not?

Look, you are a Hillary groupie and an Obamanic so why don't you just admit your bias.

OK, I like Bernie and Obama. But that's not my question. My question is, if you like putin, do you also like trump... this isn't about my bias, but of those that in some bizarre world think putin is a good leader. While I may be a Democrat, I've also written various reports on Russia and their relations with other countries and their history since the fall... if obama had done even half of the atrocities that Putin has committed you'd be ready to take up arms

My "anti-putin" bias doesn't come from political affiliation but my research as a grad student studying political history...

Well student, you will, as you know, have to provide some cited evidence which I'm sure you have. Evidentiary content to reinforce your assertion that Putin has committed anything beyond hearsay.
Here's your problem. You are trying to establish a correlation between those who find Putin favorable and those who favor Trump so you could follow up with some conclusion that Putin is universally bad except in the eyes of Trump supporters.
It's not going to fly!

Trump Kool-Aid drinkers!

I wasn't going to follow it up with anything.. I was purely curious if anyone outside of trump supporters liked putin...

Putin hasn't done anything bad to Americans. You clone Obamanics don't even condemn the attacks by the Muslim world because you are so busy trying to malign the Trump administration.

sheep

Yep FloPop, I asked a Lib Sheepherder the other day what it was like hanging out with so many other sheep and he said it wasn't "Baaaaaaaaaaaddddd"

That was a truly awful pun. Lmao

How exactly is Russia a threat?

Why is Russia a threat? Because they oppose our geopolitical interests around the world in places like Ukraine, Syria, Iran, the Baltic States, etc.

Russia is a huge threat. Young people have been brainwashed by Liberals to believe they are not.

Definitely N. Korea and Iran pose a larger threat and China's posturing in the Region seems to be gearing up for some major confrontations. Russia in the long run may serve as an ally.
The wheat is separating from the chaff, things are festering and war is looming over the horizon..

Also, I love that 25% of Republicans and 31% of libertarians have a favorable view of a vile, corrupt, freedom-hating fascist. The right shows its true colors...

Pretty much. He's a war criminal, mob boss and thug.

A certain portion of them like him because he persecutes homosexuals.

Oh I see it's ALL about the gay people now?
Sic!

Obama and Liberals laughed at Romney for stating what you just said. Now Obama has gotten us in a huge mess with Russia.

Putin never liked Obama. It's easy to spot a weakling when you see one. Trump will straighten out the kinks.

Our leaders are the war criminals. Bush and Obama. Putin's just trying to salvage what we've tried to destroy in Syria. He's the one leader standing up to our nation building and I commend him for it. He wants peace. But we just want to keep encroaching closer and closer to Russia and talking smack daily.

Trump will straighten out the kinks? Lol, Is that why Putin is celebrating his election?

Putin and many other leaders. They knew the Democrats needed War to boost the economy via the MIC.
Hillary was BENT!
She shouted and yelled a lot because she wanted to appear as if she had some cajones.

Absolutely Scruff. She was foaming from the mouth for war. Ever since '08.

Since when do democrats want war? Isn't it usually the right that's foaming at the mouth for war while the left cautions restraint and aims for peace?

Hillary is the biggest neocon war whore alive. She agrees with McCain and Graham %100 of the time. (Not to mention Obama continuing and expanding every single Bush policy - especially drone bombing).

The left forgot their anti-war stance the moment Obama took office. And they haven't gotten it back which is why they're failing so miserably. It's also why I ditched the left for good (6 months into Obama's first term).

"This is Wally Barbuckle reporting from Moscow for TASS news... Now back to you Boris."

So you want to start WWIII. Congrats on being a psychopath.

Yes prince, but if only your wisdom was nearly as good as your command of expletives some might take you seriously.

Preventing war is exactly why I'm more amicable towards the subtlety of a good poisoning.

I'm sorry bad words triggered you, ape. I don't care. Please be an incorrigible troll elsewhere.

We're the ones trying to start war with Russia and have been for years, ya dumb fuck. Putin has been the peacekeeper of the world against our total insanity.

Peacekeeper my ass. He is building his own power and influence to become a broker on the world stage. That is OUR position, and no other should have it. He must be eliminated before he does.

Peace keeper your ass? No one is interested in your ass impudent prince.
Putin is already a broker on the world stage. You obviously don't have a firm grasp on what is going on with Russia and the rest of the world.
You're just vehemently spewing out nonsense. Maybe you should visit them and hook up with Puss y Riot. We'll send you some Gerber to make you feel at home in jail.
Now get back in your crib before your mommy and daddy get home.

You do realize the "Spirit of 76" was essentially American nationalism, right?

There's a difference between patriotism and nationalism. Nationalism aligns itself more with Nazis. And many of our founders wanted less federal and more state control, thus lending less power to the central government.

Gets things done, like slaughtering his own people and exploiting the government

Read the entire comment.

What does how Obama looked next to him have to do with him killing his own people? Wouldn't you feel uncomfortable if you had to sit next to someone that vile?

Obama's life was not in any danger. Obama could've showed a little backbone.

Tell me about those murders.

Killings*

Speaking of uncomfortable and intimidated, did you happen to see Trump sitting next to Obama when they first met after the election? I don't understand why people think Trump is going to stand up to Putin. He's been doing nothing but cozying up to him and kissing his ass since he started his presidential campaign!

I saw the two sitting together and intimidated is not the first word I would use to describe Trump. I saw Trump transitioning and trying to be diplomatic. Trump is being diplomatic while Obama is being a spineless fish. The differences in how they carry themselves. You see Obama being very uncomfortable and intimidated while Trump is trying to be nice.

Lol if that's really what you saw I can't believe that you've actually been paying attention. Trump "trying to be nice" Obama a "spineless fish"? A saw it as the EXACT OPPOSITE. Trump never expected, and in my opinion, never really wanted, to win and felt overwhelmed and intimidated in the presence of a real president and all the trappings that come with that title

Yeah, just murder a few thousand people and all of a sudden democrats don't like you, weird

Civilians always end up being killed in war. That's a fact of war. Civilians in Syria are stuck in the situation like Vietnam. A rebel group that blends into the civilian populous.

Raging, very hypocritical statement considering Democrats have murdered people

1) im not talking about Syria im talking about russia
2) when have the democrats ever sponsored the murder of thousands of political dissidents

KKK

TRIGGERED

????

Ooooh, yeah no that was the Jeffersonian democrats, different party

You can't sweep history under the rug. It was the same party. Democrats.

Jeffersonian and jacksonian democrats are different things, which you would know if you paid any attention to history

www.reference.com/history/were-jeffersonian-democracy-jacksonian-democracy-eaf0ce5754e770c3#
Different parties

I actually pay attention to history unlike you. The Democrat party has always been the Democrat party

You're probably wrong, but I get the feeling citing any amount of sources won't convinve you

Because you're wrong

Ill let you Google it yourself

I know you're talking about Russia and Russia's very much involved in Syria.

Yeah, him many millions of Muslims are dead because of our interventions since Bush? How many hospitals has Obama bombed this year? At least 2. If your counting civilians you better take a Old he'd fucking look at your leaders. Because Putin's got nothing on them when it comes to civilian deaths.

*how

Spell check's gone tarded today (or maybe it's because I just woke up).

Sounds like Hillary and Bill.

He gets things done, like murdering his supporters

Don't you have a mind of your own, an opinion of your own or do you always rely on other people for their assessments?

You mean he's a Badass?