In general, are illegal aliens taking jobs that Americans don't want to do, or stealing jobs from able bodied Americans as a cheaper option for companies?
Don't want; I mean like who really wants to be a fry cook at MickyDs? ;)
Although they might not be the most ideal, there are jobs out there. Immigrants are not "stealing" all the jobs. Even the small business I work for has several positions open for people without experience. People just need to get off their lazy butts
And actually look for work instead of using others as an excuse to do nothing.
Most jobs are jobs Americans don't want to do. Immigrants are taking the jobs Americans would do if they have to. But those jobs are already taken... By immigrants. And for way less money.
The H1B visa holders are actually taking well paying jobs. Those legal expats are really the ones people should consider when they think about the job thing. Education needs to be a bigger priority in the US.
They covered thin on the History Channel on Ancient Aliens.
Some of both.
Well, thay are willing to do jobs many americans consider above them
I laugh at these questions. My GM emigrated from Russia with $10 in her pocket and no direct relative. She worked >50 yrs cleaning offices at night - no citizens would do the job today. Forced to retire @ 70 (really 81) diedv6 months later.
Most times immigrants that aren't legal yet will take any jobs they can get; and there's a reason they can get those jobs. Employers at certain jobs are willing to hire people that don't necessarily have the paperwork they might otherwise need.
It's like some of these politicians think these aliens are taking like normal jobs, or corporate jobs, or highly popular positions.
My son-in-law was a shift manager at Taco Bell for a few years; my daughter worked the same shift. We had a conversation recently that started out about Muslim employees & how they dealt with clothing restrictions... and segued into a discussion...
..Hispanic employees, whom they thought were probably mostly illegals. They both said the Hispanics worked their butts off every day, the entire shift, didn't complain, & were cheerful. And that it was hard to get plain vanilla Americans...
..who would stay in the same positions for very long. They'd complain about the hours, the work, the pay, etc., & quit. I guess they didn't need a job *that* badly.
That's just one tiny experience, though.
And it's probably a common one. These people have to work very hard to supply for their family. We americans have it good, even the poor Americans have it better. The foreigners have little care for hours or conditions, they just need food on table.
Until the immigrants are legal, they are stealing.
I completely agree with this
Technically that is correct. But if Americans don't want those positions, are they really stealing them?
@pipes, yes. As it is against the law to hire undocumented workers.
It's also unethical. IMO
Well we can agree to disagree.
It doesn't matter if Americans, *in general*, don't want them. The position would still be filled. They are stealing them because they are illegal and it sickens me that its accepted and okay for them to remain illegal and work. I'm not saying they
do a bad job—yeah they can be fantastic workers, but they're still illegal.
I don't care if someone is illegal, if they can do the job better I'm gonna hire them. Not my fault most Americans can't works as well as a foreigner.
You think Americans want to bend over in fields and pick fruit? Hell no. Generally we are much more educated and wealthier that most Americans are past that level of the poverty line. Mexico on the other hand?
*and most Americans....
We'd demand higher wages & the price of food would go up & everybody would complain bitterly.
That why you just mention it, let is stay hush, and let them work at minimal wage to supply the rest of America. These people deserve medals for their work and the importance of it. We need these people, just not too many.
*thats why we don't mention it....
Those illegals aren't coming up here and bending over in fields! The vast majority are taking jobs in construction, factories, etc. Go into a housing development being built and start speaking to the workers. See how many speak English, not many.
My brother relies on illegal aliens for his profession.