Unless you're full blooded, still living on a reservation, "native" American you have absolutely no right to be critical of immigrants and are a hypocrite if you are.
I'm about 35% Cherokee!!
What is the hypocrisy?
What the hell? I was born here same as anyone else.
I'm a native immigrant. I am Caucasian so I completely and totally understand where you're coming from Rebs. But this is my home. I was born and raised here. I would die to defend it regardless of where my ancestors came from. My loyalties lie here.
That's not quite the point of the question.
Then I misunderstood, my friend.
My mother's parents were both immigrants, but she is always quick to point out that they were "legal".
And how easy was the process then compared to today?
Rebel why are you trying to tell us what to do?
I'm not at all. I'm merely pointing out your hypocrisy.
I was born here. I am a native of the United States.
Unless you are full blooded Native American, you're an (x) amount of generations immigrant. I was born here, but I'm still a 5th generation immigrant.
Native Americans immigrated too. Unless you're a woolly mammoth, you've got no special claim to being here.
I can get on board with that, hope that means you support open immigration
As easy as your family had it.
I had ancestors who were treated as more expendable than slaves.
Immigration was easier for a lot of people today than for some of my ancestors. I still think it could stand to be easier than it is now.
The indians are also immigrants.
So my "Native American" ancestors don't count because they married outside their tribe & managed to avoid the reservations? My closest was my great grandmother who was Cherokee & lived in caves for a while to avoid the Trail of Tears.
My most distant was a chief's daughter who married a settler back in the 1600's. There was at least one Creek woman in there, too.
I think you missed the point. This really only targets those Americans who actively rally against immigration into this country yet refuse to acknowledge that their families immigrated when it was much cheaper and easier to do so.
I'm opposed to illegal immigration. I freely acknowledge that I have English, Italian, & Irish ancestors who immigrated legally. I understood your point. You were the one who limited NAs to the reservation.
Only so many characters, the NA point wasn't the focus of the question. But as I've said before, it's likely your ancestors had it quite a bit easier just walking through Ellis island, comparing it to today isn't really fair.
My ancestors where actually pre- Ellis Island. Some of them settled near the Jamestown colony & several fought in the American Revolution. One died traveling back & forth from England. Easier? Not so sure.
Easier in terms of less bureaucratic nonsense and I'm tempted to say cheaper although that may be debatable.
Americans are as native as native America's. it's all about perspective.
As , native Americans came here like everyone else.
So really, pure blood Africans living in Africa are the only real natives... Woah...
Heh heh. I guess. But not even them. As studies show that we all come from there.
If you don't know much about it, this show is pretty good at explaining it.
You can find it on Netflix.
National Geographic: The Human Family Tree
My family has been on this side of the world as long as the natives, I think I can criticize :P
The only time I'm critical of immigrants is when they are illegal. Yes, my ancestors were immigrants. And they did it the right way, legally. Once a country is established, everyone should follow the immigration rules. I'm not a hypocrite for that.
Haha when the process was "get here, sign your name"?
Yeah, thank god they were so law abiding.
If my tax money is subsidizing you in any way, I reserve the right to criticize.
Many immigrants pay into social security and other taxes, and never receive any benefits from it. So really, they're subsidizing you.
You can criticize immigrants. That's your right. You have the right to be a hyprocrite. But to use governent for their violent removal or exclusion is a different thing altogether.
Just seems humorous how hypocritical Americans can be.
I don't know, my family has lived here for four centuries I guess it's a question of how long do you have to live on land to make it yours.
I'll bet the NA's have ya beat
True, but to be candid there aren't many full blooded Native Americans left. My Senator Elizabeth Warren claims to be Cherokee and she barely is.
The point is nearly every single person on this patch of dirt is descended from immigrants.
Skinner, there might not be many native Americans in Massachusetts because they were forced to move west. They're still here in New Mexico, Oklahoma etc.
Yup! My mums from england and my dads parents- ukraine/Austria.
Im damn near an immigrant.
Native Americans have just as much of a right to be critical of immigrants as any other American, which is to say not at all.
Totally misread the question- my bad.
No foul friend, just curious, how did you interpret it
I read it as "If you're full blooded Native American, still living on a reservation, you have no right to be critical of immigrants." The one word made all the difference.
Meh, Native Americans weren't always here either.
SOME people have for tens of thousands of years.
Nobody's "been here for tenes othousands of years. Most people have been here for less than50years.
I meant some as in other humans, thought that would've been pretty clear.
It was clear, but nuwriter's point was better. So your 10,000 year old grandfather crossed a land bridge during an ice age? Doesn't make YOU any more born here than anyone else. Except maybe the Kenyan?