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rebelfury76 July 5th, 2013 5:46am

July 4th has become a day of showing your support for, and dependance on, the government.

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deathvalley Chicago native
07/05/13 2:08 pm

Government? No.

The men who fought for us and our independence? Yes

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skinner Jersey City
07/05/13 5:05 am

I don't understand why you can't separate country and government.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/05/13 5:39 am

I just can't, they're one thing. A country isn't a country without its government. Otherwise it's just dirt. Should I be proud of the dirt?

skinner Jersey City
07/05/13 5:41 am

It's not just the dirt it's the people on the dirt with whom we share a common bond.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/05/13 5:57 am

Most of these people want to control me, why should I take some obscene pleasure in that?

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/05/13 5:57 am

And the only thing we have in common, is government. Otherwise why don't you feel that same "bond" with Canadians and Mexicans?

skinner Jersey City
07/05/13 6:02 am

That's how democracy works Rebel, you honestly think an independent Minnesota would be any different? No it's the nationhood that connects us not the government, there is a difference between a nation and a government.

NUwriter
07/05/13 7:36 am

A country is the group of people living in a certain area.

The government is the group of people who prey on them, demand their loyalty, kidnap, enslave, and control them - while claiming to do so for their benefit.

NUwriter
07/05/13 7:36 am

A country is the group of people living in a certain area.

The government is the group of people who prey on them, demand their loyalty, kidnap, enslave, and control them - while claiming to do so for their benefit.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/05/13 1:03 am

I'm celebrating the sacrifices that our Founding Fathers endured to give us a free country. I'll celebrate more when we get back what we've lost.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/05/13 1:30 am

I sent it to the address you gave me. Are you sure that the address is right?

bMyComrade Stumptown
07/05/13 12:02 am

For getting drunk and blowing shit up - or so it seems.

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aurealis the sky
07/04/13 11:47 pm

No I do not support nor depend on the gov't. This holiday doesn't mean I believe in either.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/05/13 12:11 am

It seems like a very nationalistic day

aurealis the sky
07/05/13 12:22 am

For many it is. In my case, and some others I'm sure, not so much.

comppete Las Vegas
07/04/13 11:41 pm

I did that on purpose.
I don't really celebrate Independence Day. I recognize it and what it stood for. Our day when we told a tyrant to kiss our collective asses. I love this country, but not this government so much. I believe it will get better.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/05/13 12:12 am

I have a hard time separating the two in my mind. With a "government", a "country" doesn't really exist. It's just land then.

aurealis the sky
07/05/13 12:38 am

So rebel—if your desire for no gov't was appeased and the system demolished, then would that "state" of land not be considered a country? Just land?

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/05/13 1:35 am

I could get on board with a similar form of representative democracy at the state level. I feel the federal system does more harm than good. I'd like to see this nation divided into 50 or more sovereign nations that would coexist peacefully.