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TempName14 July 2nd, 2013 12:59pm

A recent SOH poll showed that 60% are unwilling to give their life for their country. How about this scenario: Are you willing to die for the USA if foreign troops were invading our soil?

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Aliggan China and Florida
07/02/13 4:04 pm

Wouldn't you rather live to fight for your country another day?

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kermie gaytopia
07/02/13 2:46 pm

Uh no. Still wouldn't do it. Sorry.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
07/02/13 1:02 pm

My country and civil rights are two things I would gladly lay down my life for.

MadCow True GOP
07/02/13 12:32 pm

That's why we have our uniformed heroes, right?

cowboy Doors of Perception
07/02/13 11:45 am

They already have. They're called the UN.

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
07/02/13 12:21 pm

Agenda 21

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
07/02/13 1:03 pm

Missed you cowboy how are you doing?

cowboy Doors of Perception
07/02/13 2:03 pm

Thanks topsqueen! It took long enough to get this app updated. Still can't post a profile pic, but that's not important to me.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
07/02/13 2:06 pm

How's the daughter?

kermie gaytopia
07/02/13 2:45 pm

Hey welcome back! 51%... That's better than I expected :)

timeout Boston Strong
07/02/13 11:01 am

I wouldn't hide. I would fight and if that meant giving my life....I would.

kateXcore Dark side of the moon
07/02/13 10:31 am

Perhaps.
I am definitely willing to die to protect our country from the government.

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kspells TheOtherOtherside
07/02/13 10:19 am

I think we sends troops overseas to let the citizens live. Or our goal of "sheet of glass" works but we are kind. Foreign troops would have to be born here to invaded our borders.because if they can get past our defense not much would be left of U.S

kspells TheOtherOtherside
07/02/13 10:27 am

In a make believe invasion we wouldn't send troops to kill foreigners or to confiscate guns from U.S. gun owners. We in truth don't need anymore 18 to 25 yr olds. But we're not going to have them shot taking guns away. That is what drones are for.

EagleOK Oklahoma
07/02/13 10:33 am

I'm confused.

kspells TheOtherOtherside
07/02/13 10:35 am

That's where tax dollars save U.S.lives a drone for each of us that way our militia won't die or ever fight against another American.and all the gun owner who think there will a human to shoot at need to get over themselves.That's what drones are for

EagleOK Oklahoma
07/02/13 10:37 am

Yeah. Thanks for clearing that up.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:02 am

I'm willing to defend to the death if necessary, but I'd much rather kill for my country than die for it. The other poor bastard on the invasion force can die for his country instead.

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EagleOK Oklahoma
07/02/13 9:28 am

Lol. Patton? Is that you?

kindocologist Beer is my friend
07/02/13 9:29 am

I like the way you think

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
07/02/13 1:53 pm

I could act like a vacant minded old lady who cannot spell, and they come homemade cinnamon rolls and Eastrock on their conversations. I would be an ancient Mata Hari, Who seduces with food!

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
07/02/13 3:03 pm

Sigh. Eye roll ease drop. Home sick boys will talk to a sweet old grandma.

EarlyBird Portland
07/02/13 5:58 pm

I meant you can too. Give yourself a different name, then when you put your name back, caps work.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
07/02/13 8:43 am

Or if DHS begins gun confiscation.

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inge MIA
07/02/13 8:30 am

Yes to this scenario.

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PeppyHare Do a barrel roll
07/02/13 7:38 am

Defend my home from foreigners sure... I'm not dying overseas for this bum in office and our longstanding joke of a foreign policy. The only reason I give money to this government is so that I don't have to sit in jail.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:03 am

That's called extortion in EVERY OTHER CONTEXT.

boboli
07/02/13 7:02 am

This is hard. It depends on how dire the situation is and what my life and family are like.
I would probably so my part (perhaps through science and technology or something like that) but I'd rather not fight if I don't have to.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:04 am

A war needs science and tech. Do you know how to manufacture gunpowder? Or booby traps?

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:05 am

Or streamline communications or supply lines?
There's room for everyone when national sovereignty is on the line.

boboli
07/02/13 11:16 am

I don't yet, but I'm hoping this theoretical war won't hit before I graduate from college/grad school!

Keldeo Laverre City
07/02/13 6:25 am

As in join the army and die? I don't know.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:05 am

The idea would be to kill rather than die. The dying just might become unavoidable.

Rosebud Ohio
07/02/13 6:25 am

I voted yes to both... I would give it in a circumstance I support, like defending from foreign invasion. Not blindly in whatever the government determines is a good idea at the time.

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Melon No Ducklips
07/02/13 6:21 am

Defend my home? Without batting an eye.

I voted no on the last poll for similar reasons as you listed below. I would be weary of putting my life on the line for some of the reasons we've been overseas. I feel that I would have to believe!

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/02/13 6:20 am

I'll only act in direct self defense of myself and my family.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 6:22 am

Wouldn't you be defending yourself and your family by fighting-off invaders, or do you wait until they get to your house before lifting a finger?

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/02/13 6:56 am

I wait. There's not much worth defending here.

And I have "lifted a finger" for the past 6.5 years, thank you very much.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 7:00 am

I have no respect at all for that position.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 8:07 am

Yes. That was obviously a statement of opinion.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:24 am

Where's @Earlybird? I need some popcorn.

kindocologist Beer is my friend
07/02/13 9:32 am

Seems to be another weekend warrior on the fritz.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/02/13 1:49 pm

Yeah, I'm a reservist and I've deployed, what about you?

My point is I'm not so hippie punk kid from the suburbs. I've done my duty, enough to know that this govt is not worth giving up my life for. I'll defend myself but that's it.

kindocologist Beer is my friend
07/02/13 2:17 pm

Yep. But I didn't become a bitter ass about doing my job.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/02/13 2:25 pm

Then maybe you should look around a little more. The DoD is the epitome of waste, fraud, and abuse.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 2:29 pm

What does DOD waste have to do with whether you'd help repel an invading army on US soil?

kindocologist Beer is my friend
07/02/13 2:30 pm

As is/was every military entity since the dawn of time.

kindocologist Beer is my friend
07/02/13 2:39 pm

Hell, the DoD has been sticking money in my pocket since the 80s.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 6:01 am

I begrudgingly voted "yes" on the last poll because I don't support most of our wars. They're selective and have nothing at all to do with our defense. An invasion of US soil, however, would invoke every effort that I have to give.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 6:03 am

I'm sick of the endless wars and war mongering.

Posco BBQ Enthusiast
07/02/13 6:15 am

I voted no on the last poll for that same reason but I would fight if we were attacked.

jeffrey306 steel town
07/02/13 6:20 am

Couldn't agree more. I would defend our country with every ounce of effort I could give. But the past 12 years (and more) have been a disaster wrt to military actions. So many lives lost and for what really?

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:09 am

The problem is less the reason (or lack thereof) that we're over there. The problem is that we've handcuffed our soldiers with ridiculous 'rules of engagement' before telling them to risk their lives on a battlefield.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:11 am

If we're going to war, then let's have Congress declare war, and then give the generals and admirals and commanders the leeway that they need to fight the war in a winning manner.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:12 am

Look at Gulf War 1. We stunned the rest of world with that win.
Why? Because we leveraged our fighting forces efficiently in a coordinated manner, and we fought to win, rather than for some 'hearts and minds' bullshit!

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
07/02/13 9:13 am

I disagree pinky. I don't think we should be in most of our wars even if the rules of engagement were completely and overwhelmingly in our favor.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:19 am

That's why I said reason or lack thereof. ;) I'm not saying that the cause is just. But insofar as saving lives already on the battlefield, we could make a drastic improvement simply by leveraging our forces efficiently...

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:20 am

...and not concerning ourselves with collateral damage or 'hearts and minds.' An A-10 strike, J-DAM or artillery barrage is a much more efficient way of eliminating an enemy stronghold than sending in soldiers on foot.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/02/13 9:22 am

Our fighting men have the means, resources and willpower to win nearly any small-scale engagement in short order with spectacular results.
They just don't have the permission to fight to win.