Show of Hands

Both had the some excellent midwife and were moments from a hospital. Both had very good - and different reason. Both have beautiful baby girls. One if now a Junior at UC Santa Barbara and the other is just a month old

Reb -a lot of people want to see you in the next SoH on air show. If you are interested, please contact Tony.

Really? Where was this discussion? I'd be happy to but maybe tony would take it more seriously if it was other tooting my horn, not myself, know what I mean?

Veritas... Has a poll asking who we would like to see. Go in there, look around and let Tony know if you're game :-)

Can't find it

Shortly before the "are banks ethical?" Poll

Not showing up for me can you do the share poll button and email it to me

rebelliousone@hotmail.com

Imagine that - your email is rebellious one - LOL - at least you are more creative than I.

If anyone could share that poll would me I'd appreciate

I'll do it again

Try zbohlman@hotmail.com, my other email

Of course I'm thinking positively, and not accounting for life threatening conditions, e.g. Pre-eclampsia...

Good for you! Where are you studying, if you don't mind my asking?

Awesome!

Be sure and get fully certified please, we had one here where she was anti medicine in the family didn't know it, the baby died. And she refused to get certified very tragic She told the family no medical care and it would've saved the babies life.

That's so sad. Those are the midwives that give home birth a bad name.

I meant so sad about the baby not about the bad name part.

Peaceful - that is so awesome - without giving too much info - one of my home birth friends really had a good reason not to want to go to the doctor or the hospital. You will truly be giving "peace" to some

ClarityRose - NCM

Re: certification - it's only a piece of paper that ultimately says you can pay & bill insurance, I may or may not be licensed, but the important thing is how I choose to practice - something a paper will never help.

I know my limits, when to ask for help, and how to look into a woman's eyes and tell her what she doesn't want to hear, and have her believe me. There are risks to everything in life, and if you choose the risks of birthing at home w/a MW over....

The risks of being delivered at a hospital by an OB, you are choosing which risks you'd prefer.
Informed or not, you are deciding!

Wow, my previous comments came out kinda rudely... Didn't mean that... Just passionate about INFORMED consent when it comes to birth!

Completely agree

60s & 70s, delivered MANY babies with no adverse incidents - he was good at sending higher risk women to docs. Later became a PA & then an MD himself.

I don't think I'd have the courage to do it myself. I'm a chicken.

A male midwife is still a midwife. The term loosely means wife's helper.

Thanks, I couldn't remember for sure. It was so long ago, & I've never known another male midwife.

Funny how people don't seem as concerned about changing titles that are female oriented yet we have to say congressperson and chairperson all the time now.

But look at what clarity is saying - it mean's "wife's helper." It's from Middle English; means "with woman." Etymology that I've looked at differs: some imply it means "the woman who is with the mother"; others imply "a person who is *with the wife*

which is what clarity says. I have no problem using appropriate professional or similar terms to make them gender-correct, inclusive, or genderless, but this one doesn't seem to need that, to me.

And you know you don't HAVE to use terms like "chairperson" if you don't want to. It just seems more appropriate to me, & acknowledges that women aren't men, & shouldn't have to stand under an umbrella designating them sorta-people, because they...

...sure aren't men. Actually, I'd think your passion for individual liberty would drive you more in that direction, but I'm probably missing something.

If you feel like it, you could list some other female titles you think have been excluded from the move to make words gender appropriate. I'd be interested in seeing them.

Well if we're going all old English here -man was indeed used in place of person, it had no gender defining qualities. It is only by today's PC standards that it has been given a masculine undertone.

I really don't care was just pointing it out.