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fredd July 1st, 2013 3:33am

"abhorrent", "cold war tactics", "like the Stasi". All comments by European politicians after finding out their offices in the US were bugged. Was the USA right or wrong to do this?

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FrozenPhoton Behind the Shadows
07/01/13 12:49 pm

We bug them, they bug us, it is called watching your back...

skinner Wisconsin
07/01/13 6:30 am

Sure we have legitimate espionage purposes, it's not right but it's important. As long as they aren't Americans I'm content

leary Dulag Luft
07/01/13 5:55 am

Certainly wrong to get caught red handed. Incompetent boobs running our government.

rebelfury76 F Trump, F his base
07/01/13 12:44 am

And people think "they hate our freedom", no no no they just hate you.

You meaning the District of Criminals.

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fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 10:49 pm

Slightly off topic, but an interesting point I think. Technically the NSA are not allowed to spy on US citizens. But GCHQ (UK equiv) are under no such proscription. There is nothing illegal about the NSA checking out data on US citizens, so long ...

fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 10:52 pm

... as they didn't source it. Since data is routinely shared between them it's pretty likely.

*proscription was supposed to be prohibition in the above comment btw.

montie AnCap and proud
06/30/13 10:37 pm

The United States needs to have some sort of punishment imposed in them for this.

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eLucidate writing
07/01/13 1:52 am

Hopefully we would take it well.

Jungle in the dog house
06/30/13 10:25 pm

Many US embassies have been bugged by foreign governments.

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fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 10:55 pm

Yup. Reminds me of a story I read, must have been over a decade ago so this may not be correct in all details. But from what I remember, the Canadians discovered a soviet bug in a US building in Canada of a type the US hadn't learned to detect.

fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 11:01 pm

When asked, the Mounties (who did counter-intel at the time) said they learned of such bugs from the British. So this pissed off spy went to the British liaison and demanded to know why they had shared it with the RCMP. Apparently the answer was ...

fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 11:16 pm

... along the lines of "Well it's the Commonwealth old boy, you know how it is?

Gingerred primum non nocere
06/30/13 10:17 pm

Honestly I'm certain we're not the only ones who have done it. We're just the ones who got caught, so we endure the 'righteous' outrage from everyone else.

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fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 10:43 pm

Oh definitely not, this has always happened. The Brits are especially guilty of this one.

rebelfury76 F Trump, F his base
07/01/13 12:44 am

Please don't say we when describing in this crap.

Gingerred primum non nocere
07/01/13 5:39 pm

You're right, rebel... That's a habit I should break.

commonsense Read another book
06/30/13 8:40 pm

It's the NSA's job to spy. We should be spying on other countries.

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fredd TrumpLand
06/30/13 8:37 pm

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23120955

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OhTheIrony Learning from you
06/30/13 8:35 pm

Turns out we weren't the only suckers the NSA was spying on......

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boboli
07/01/13 5:55 am

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be the CIA who spies internationally and the NSA that spies domestically? Or does the NSA also work internationally?
I really don't know.