Show of Hands

Why Kris?

Because, we have to provide for ourselves. If you can make a life, you need to factor in health care plans so that when needed you have it.

No one is given the right to free healthcare unless truly unable to provide it themselves.

But as a human being you don't think we have an obligation to care for one another?

Yes and no. As heartless as it sounds, "I" comes first, then comes family, then comes community. Health care should be something we plan for and pay into insurance, not "oh I'm sick, someone pay for it because I can't" kinda thing.

I can respect your opinion and even understand it, but would you deny care to a sick child whose parent, while working, did not have insurance (but made too much $$$ for medi care) could not afford cancer treatment?

Yes.

As harsh as it sounds, they shoulda found a way. If they are determined, I'm sure social networking websites wild lead to a lot of donations to help pay for care.

So others should pay - just not you????

I have never understood the charity vs government argument. With charity you have to hope that humanity will come to the rescue and find the cause worthy of donation and the recipient will have to jump thought whatever hoops the charity

Decides necessary, because its "their" money. Which demeaning and un-American to me. It also seems like a cop out. Someone will take care of it - as long as I don't have to

The problem is financial irresponsibility. People need to plan for everything. I DIY see why a couple would bring a child into the world without healthcare.

I don't want to be paying for care for the child if those who would be irresponsible such that way.

I've been that child, it sucks. But it's life. I've had some serious injuries I didn't recieve care for because we didn't have the money.

@ Shelly
Perhaps your answer to the charity vs government question is:
Many people, including myself, simply do not trust the government. Additionally they are extremely inefficient when it comes to money.

Children don't always come when you plan for them and neither does cancer. Every civilized nation in the world aside from us (before the ACA - which is far from perfect - but a step in the right direction) provides health care for there people

@trog - I understand that - but they are the government we have. So who do we trust?

Yes, but sometimes people need to work for things. There are cases when government assisted care should be used. But most if the time, it needs to be a private thing. Just like how we don't have a right to 3 meals a day, we provide for ourselves

Okay - the meal thing makes sense. But we do supplement food for hungry people. I do understand your point. I have always had health insurance - from the day I was born. And it's always been private insurance - never government - I've been

Fortunate. But I work with low income families and I've seen more than my share of sick children and parents. Young girls who made mistakes and morally couldn't choose to abort. These girls are going to college to make a better life - so it's

It's not like their not trying. But it is so hard to watch kids cry when they eat because their teeth hurt so bad. It's difficult not to believe that health care should be a right. For me it's a human dignity issue and I do think it can be

Argued that it is guaranteed in the constitution

The problem is calling something people should provide for themselves a right.

The only rights we have are to live a free life to pursue happiness.
Food, shelter, a loving home. These are things we want, but things we need to make for ourselves...

It is up to us to find a way to protect and care for our body. Health care is a newer thing. There are ways to get it. And we need to get it to provide it for ourselves. Not expect it to be handed to us.

Okay - so I went to look at the Bill of Rights and the other Amendments to the Constitution based on your statement that it shouldn't be a "right" if it is something you have to provide for yourself. There is precedent for a "right" based on

Something other provide for themselves in the right to have a lawyer provided for you if you can't afford one