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Show Of Hands August 15th, 2016 6:19pm

Hillary Clinton is enlisting "Dreamers" in a voter registration drive aimed at sympathetic voters with warnings that Trump's immigration plans could result in the deportation of Dreamers, though they cannot vote themselves. Good plan?

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Anneke Waffle please
08/20/16 7:01 pm

ITS DISGUSTING! Playing on people's sympathies so that crook can destroy 'murica!

sirsicness
08/17/16 7:18 am

I forgot to mention that's there's white UN military vehicles being shipped into this country,why is that??

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sirsicness
08/17/16 7:02 am

The whole dream act is being done by design to destabilize our country,so Obama can stay in power and become our ruler,that's why FEMA building prison camps all over the countr. Get ready for Marshall law and a civil war,that's Obama's dream!!

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AltHistoryHub Utah
08/28/16 6:26 pm

What?? There are prison camps being constructed? Where? Source?

sirsicness
08/28/16 7:48 pm

Go to google n other sources you'll see

sirsicness
08/16/16 9:37 pm

Attention dreamer lovers,just released wiki leak hacks show George Soros is paying these dreaming scumbags to cross our borders and to cause mayhem in this great country of ours,also shelled out 650,000$ to black lives matter

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sirsicness
08/16/16 10:07 pm

Also Obama was shaped molded and hand pick by Soros,our Manchurian candidate

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:28 pm

The only reason that Hillary and the Democrats want "dreamers" to vote is to get a permanent Democratic voting majority so they can forever rule our country, good move for her, bad for the future of the nation.

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/16/16 1:26 pm

Oh, Hillary working with those who are here illegally. Shocking! Not. A candidate who actually intended to uphold the Constitution would most certainly not do this. But, her disregard of our laws knows no bounds and this shows us that if she gets in, we have another 4 years of our Commander in Chief trampling all over the Constitution. Greaaat.

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smacc DunningKruger
08/16/16 1:05 pm

Trumpies may not like it but it is a good plan.

myob
08/16/16 10:45 am

Patronizing as hell. They will resent this program soon.

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Jazzy5 USA
08/16/16 11:49 am

Stop the quaking at each other!
I consider my vote precious, I hope you feel the same.
Earn the right to vote! It should not be given away! Earn it!
Then you have the right to vote!

kywrite augusta, ga
08/16/16 3:32 am

Concept is too complex for most voters, sadly.

dryanmorr
08/15/16 11:11 pm

Anything to win an election I suppose.

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otto Olean, NY
08/15/16 10:14 pm

It is an excellent plan. Who says (besides the Constitution) that they can't vote? Who's going to stop them? Fed keeps unconstitutionally nullifying voter ID laws to prevent just that, so who are you kidding? They WILL vote and they will be paid well to vote the "right" way.

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TomM
08/16/16 1:40 am

You should read the question again. It's not about getting them to vote but to get them to help register people who can vote.

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:32 pm

Yeah, that's just the beginning. You don't think a Democratic nominee who's having a registration drive would want people to register Republican or Independent do you? Cmon, have some common sense. A power hungry person like Hillary will make for....

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:33 pm

...damn certain she wins and wins big in November, and she's demonstrated time and time again that she's not above breaking the law, what makes you think she'll play win honestly?

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:34 pm

*play by the rules* and win honestly. Typo.

sirsicness
08/15/16 9:15 pm

If you think you can move to Mexico and live there illegally your Dreaming....spend years locked up in a Mexican shit hole

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/16/16 1:17 pm

Are you saying they locked you up for moving there illegally?

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:37 pm

Most likely. They have an extremely secure border with the U.S., they know who comes in and who goes out, it would do for us to take a leaf from there book. Not throwing people in prison obviously, just having a more secure border.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/16/16 7:44 pm

We should. If the answer to my question was yes, I was going to suggest Sirsicness write a few polls, maybe True/False type polls, to educate some of the people on here about the way it is over there. Other nations are more secure and far less forgiving than we are, including Mexico. But, many Americans don't seem to realize that.

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:53 pm

You are right, we are far less vigilant with who crosses our border, and we need to dispel the notion that it is somehow racist to have a secure border line b/t U.S. & Mex. As for prison time, I'm not sure quite what Mexico does about that.

44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 8:24 pm

It pains me to see people in these comments not knowing how voting works. It has been proven that voter fraud is not a problem in the US and illegal immigrants are not registered to vote so they can't vote it's as simple as that. They could give a fake name of someone who is registered and give their address etc but that is just unreasonable. Nobody cares that much to vote. And if someone were to do that don't you think that when the real person that it was came to vote and they were already marked off they would investigate? You crazy racist republicans would be all over that, except wait... It hasn't ever happened

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44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 8:24 pm

Hasn't ever happened*
Got cut off

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 8:49 pm

I'm really not too amazed that somehow you managed to call republicans racist during your rant. You forgot sexist and islamaphobic but there's always next time.

44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 8:50 pm

Those weren't relevant and neither is your comment

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 8:52 pm

It was relevant enough for you to respond to. πŸ˜‰

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 8:55 pm

Defend yourself regarding...?

44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 8:56 pm

You accused me of calling republicans racist without merit

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 8:58 pm

"You crazy racist republicans would be all over that..."
It's not a baseless accusation I made. I'm only pointing out you forgot all the other buzzwords.

44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 9:00 pm

Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't be all over that

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 9:01 pm

All over what exactly?

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 9:05 pm

If you used all the popular buzzwords? I'd expect it. But seriously, there's so many now, it's hard to keep up.

44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 9:07 pm

So many? Is three too many for you to keep track of?

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 9:13 pm

Which three?

44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 9:20 pm

The three that you mentioned

xxxceo Nationalist
08/15/16 9:22 pm

If I mentioned them, I can obviously keep track of them. Next week there will be a new one I'm sure.

sirsicness
08/16/16 7:16 am

They're given all that moron,they're also paid by George Soros to cast votes several times per election

MLDarby Florissant, CO
08/16/16 12:33 pm

Sorry to say that voting (notice I didn't say voter) fraud does occur. It can be by intimidation at ballet boxes that has been documented, "misplacing" ballot boxes as in Florida during Gore's run, not properly screening eligible vs ineligible ballots such as happened in a Midwest norther state thus counting ballots from the local penitentiary. But I digress. The question was directed at using illegal and sometimes undocumented so called "dreamers" to rally the base of a political party. Many issues jump to mind. Are they over 18? Are they being coerced or promised something? Are the being compensated? Finally, are they being exploited? And many more questions.

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 7:42 pm

A woman in '12 voted 6 times in Ohio. Any person could have impersonated her at the polls, and no one would have known the difference. So yes, voter fraud does happen, the only reason you racist Libs don't admit it is because you win elex from it.

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 7:45 pm

Yes voter fraud happens but it isn't an issue in the US. Nobody has ever gotten elected because of voter fraud and don't try to tell me that all those who commit voter fraud vote liberal

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 8:01 pm

How can dishonesty in voting not be an issue? In 2012, there were records of dead ppl voting! And guess who they voted for..Not Romney! Also, there were precincts in swing states with 110%for Obama.

ChandlerMBing
08/16/16 8:01 pm

So yes it does happen, it is an issue, an issue if honesty, not of race, and Democrats do benefit from it.

MLDarby Florissant, CO
08/16/16 8:03 pm

Might need to search and research that claim. A recent Senator won by 44 votes from inmates. Search it out and try to not be an opinionated pin head.

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 8:05 pm

So the inmates left the prison and went to the polling places? If you're trying to get your point across try explaining better and not using insults as part of your comment

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 8:06 pm

And some states allow felons to vote from prison so I don't understand what you are saying

MLDarby Florissant, CO
08/16/16 8:14 pm

List the states mate. Then read the state and federal statutes. Felons cannot vote federally. Maybe by state in state races but not many and soon maybe none. In Colorado, should mates be allowed to smoke pot since it is legal in the state. Prisons consist in Colorado of state and federal systems. Colorado has the highest maximum security prison in the nation 40 stories under the ground. When u go there, say goodby to the sky, sun and moon. So how could their vote count in he 2014 election?

MLDarby Florissant, CO
08/16/16 8:17 pm

Sorry 44yy, absentee ballots are the major culprit and states that use nail in ballots using addresses of record with no screening for incarceration. Is that better?

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 8:19 pm

Because if they are citizens and they have the right to vote. It is wrong to allow them not to vote. Their opinions matter too because most convicts are there for smaller drug charges and come from the lower class. This is just another way for people to suppress the vote

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 8:20 pm

If people have convictions and are not allowed to vote then they don't recover absentee ballots. Sure some slip through but it's so extremely small

MLDarby Florissant, CO
08/18/16 5:23 pm

400 is not small and elected a member to congress.

Wizzobutter
08/15/16 8:01 pm

Definitely a good plan from her perspective. I'm surprised anyone said no.

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Americans Right Wing Libertarian
08/15/16 7:28 pm

Doesn't matter if they can legally vote or not because the Democrats don't want to require an ID to vote ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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44YY Boston, MA
08/15/16 8:14 pm

Clearly you don't know how voting works because I can't just walk into a random polling place and vote without sharing my name address etc and it has been proven that voter fraud is not even an issue in the US

Americans Right Wing Libertarian
08/15/16 8:16 pm

Voter fraud isn't an issue in America yet dead people were somehow voting Democrat? Okay....

roberbaran
08/16/16 7:17 am

Prove it. No one else has ever been able to.

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 12:28 pm

So there were 215 false votes in LA county out of a population of 10.02 million people. If you ask me that is an extremely good ratio. That would not affect voting in the slightest

kube
08/16/16 7:27 pm

Some states require a name only to vote. Fraud could EASILY happen. And, I wouldn't put voter fraud past the type of people who riot, loot, destroy property, etc.

Oh wait...I'm sure they were just about to turn their lives around...

44YY Boston, MA
08/16/16 7:34 pm

If it could so easily happen then why do studies show that it is not an issue in the US

kube
08/16/16 7:36 pm

How would they "study" if they are not tracking at the polls?

If it's not an issue why not issue voter cards. If you've registered and are on the voter list, why shouldn't you have a card to match the list.

jvc1133 61535
08/15/16 6:34 pm

Dream somewhere else.

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Liberty 4,032,064
08/15/16 5:29 pm

Sure. Scare tactics can be quite effective on the weak-minded.

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FRZNLGHT New York
08/15/16 6:19 pm

That explains all of Trump's supporters

Liberty 4,032,064
08/15/16 6:21 pm

Yep. Both candidates of the party use them.

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:29 pm

It's not really scare tactics. It's more like informing people of the truth.


Lol it's not like she's spreading hyperbole or unsubstantiated fear. This doesn't qualify as scare tactics. This is just spreading information lol right wingers are more hilarious than usual this election season. Apparently, quoting your candidate verbatim is fear mongering now haha I didn't think we'd top last elections "facts aren't important" from the Romney campaign... But here we are

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 8:08 pm

Like Americans said above: "Doesn't matter if they can legally vote or not because the Democrats don't want to require an ID to vote ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 8:10 pm

Of course Pali would love abolish our boarders, allow illegal aliens to come and go as they please AND slow them to vote if he could. No surprise.

Liberty 4,032,064
08/15/16 8:30 pm

Not sure who you think "my candidate" is, but using the fears of the weak-minded as referred to in this poll is quite common among both wings of the major party.

orgblu10 Shamerica
08/15/16 5:23 pm

Some of us who aren't at risk for deportation are no longer "Dreamers" due to what this country has become.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
08/15/16 4:47 pm

If you believe Hillary came up with that "Dreamer con" idea, I have some prime Swamp land in Louisiana, I will sell you πŸ˜‚

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dudley northern Virginia woods
08/15/16 6:04 pm

Yeah. Sounds like "Dreamer Spring". Maybe they need a bridge, too.

EarlyBird Portland
08/15/16 4:38 pm

Great idea for Hillary's campaign but a horrible idea overall.

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roberbaran
08/16/16 7:20 am

Agreed. Getting more people registered to vote is a bad idea. Wait...why is it a bad idea again?

EarlyBird Portland
08/16/16 1:17 pm

Because those people will vote for Hillary. :)

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:20 pm

No. Non citizens should have NO involvement in our political process. In fact, it should be illegal to enlist the help of non citizens in political campaigns. Unless you are a legitimate citizen of this country STFU. Your opinion does NOT count.

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palindrome California
08/15/16 6:29 pm

The country shouldn't collect taxes from them then

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 6:55 pm

No. Not even close. If they are working here illegally their entire paycheck should be confiscated. If they are here on a work visa taxes should be paid for the pleasure of working in our country. Yes you might pay taxes but only LEGAL CITIZENSHIP gives you the right to participate in our political process.

palindrome California
08/15/16 6:58 pm

Ah, so illegal immigrants should be slaves.


What a mature thought.

palindrome California
08/15/16 6:59 pm

"Yes you might pay taxes but only LEGAL CITIZENSHIP gives you the right to participate in our political process"

Lol you must have slept through a certain history lesson about how and why this country was founded πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:20 pm

Unfortunately for your ill informed and juvenile "opinion" it is as I described it to be. Why would you want slavery back?

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:20 pm

"Yes you might pay taxes but only LEGAL CITIZENSHIP gives you the right to participate in our political process"
Damn right.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:21 pm

"Ah, so illegal immigrants should be slaves."
That is YOUR thought.

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:21 pm

Hey, you're the one talking about having people work for free

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:21 pm

Illegal aliens should not be here at all!

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:22 pm

That's kind of what slavery is... You know...? Using certain people and making them work for free

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:22 pm

"Hey, you're the one talking about having people work for free"

Nonsense^^^^^^

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:24 pm

"If they are working here illegally their entire paycheck should be confiscated"

That's YOUR quote buddy. "Confiscating" people's checks and having them work for free?

Ok, so captain objects to "slavery". I guess maybe you're envisioning a system of ... Share cropping? Kinda like the south had in the years after the Civil War?

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:26 pm

"If they are working here illegally their entire paycheck should be confiscated. "

Why not? They are breaking the law by being here. A fine would be much more costly. In addition to wage confiscation they should immediately be deported. No hearing or other stupidity. Law enforcement finds them to be an illegal alien? Out you go that very hour.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:28 pm

"having them work for free? "
They should not be here at all. Isn't that true?

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:29 pm

"Share cropping? Kinda like the south had in the years after the Civil War?"
Can you focus at all? Another complete non sequitur. You are just so full of it.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:31 pm

"having them work for free? "

Your analysis not mine. Why do you want illegal aliens to work for free? They should be working in Mexico.

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:31 pm

Oh. So you just believe all 11 million plus should be uprooted and deported?


But their wages should be confiscated beforehand and thus having their work in the United States left uncompensated?


Brilliant plan. This is a REAL American here folks

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:32 pm

Pali..... You never learn

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:32 pm

Stealing from people? Fine.

No trials? You betcha.


MASSIVE deportations? No biggie.


Lol

palindrome California
08/15/16 7:33 pm

From you? Probably not. Lol shit the last two comments I left just echoed back exactly what you said. I guess even you recognized how idiotic it sounded

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:35 pm

"So you just believe all 11 million plus should be uprooted and deported? "
We'll never round up all of them, but we could get a large portion of them out. That would be a good start.

"But their wages should be confiscated beforehand [yep] and thus having their work in the United States left uncompensated? "

They should not be here at all. True?

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:37 pm

"Stealing from people? "

Yes.. The illegal aliens are stealing services from the American people : health care, education, welfare, social services... Yes. THEY are stealing from us and should be kicked out NEVER TO RETURN.

Americans Right Wing Libertarian
08/15/16 7:38 pm

This argument in a nutshell (from someone who doesn't support Trump)

Captainbstring: "People who illegally enter the country shouldn't be here and we shouldn't be paying them so they leave"

Palindrome: *Assumes that s/he supports slavery and attempts to take moral high ground that isn't actually a moral high ground because deporting people who ILLEGALLY entered the country isn't immoral at all*

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:39 pm

There's nothing idiotic here except your belief in abolishing our boarders, stealing from the American people and disregarding the rule of law. Yes. Your thesis is completely idiotic.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:41 pm

The above is for palindrome

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:46 pm

Regardless of your politics the abolishment of our boarders, ignoring the rule of law, working in the US illegally (and mostly NOT paying taxes), stealing services from the American people, etc... This looks like the work of an invading foreign government seeking to subvert our way of life..... The only difference between illegal aliens and an army is that an army would be killing our citizens......oh well look at that! THEY ARE.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:50 pm

But for the actions of an illegal alien that was deported 5 times Kate Steinly would still be alive living in San Francisco like she deserved to. But no. An illegal alien killed her and took her from her family. What are going to say to her family Pali? Hmmm? What are you going to say? "Sorry" doesn't cut it.

palindrome California
08/15/16 8:02 pm

Yeah I'm not bothering with reading all that. Lol

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 11:54 pm

Yeah.... It appears you just did!πŸ˜‚

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/15/16 4:09 pm

It seems sensible, a way to allow those with a personal interest to help in a way they legally and ethically can. I don't see any downside to it, and doing what we can to get ALL interested and eligible voters to register AND vote should be fully supported by everyone regardless of their personal politics.

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dxstap Bloomington, Indiana
08/15/16 3:25 pm

The comments seemed to have missed the point or I have.
It doesn't ask if it's a legal plan or if you like it. It wants to know if it's a good plan.
From Hillary's perspective I would say it's a good plan.

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nacho
08/15/16 3:36 pm

Of course -divide and conquer is always a good plan. Then she can sit back and wonder why no one respects law enforcement when she openly supports law breakers.

sirsicness
08/15/16 3:20 pm

Right now the dreamers are Americas nightmare,once Trump's elected he'll become they're nightmare, go Donald borders,language,culture !

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cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 3:19 pm

Sure it's immoral and probably illegal. But honestly what's bothering me more is what's come out of the woodwork since trump started running. I've heard that teachers in elementary schools are now speaking out about the bullying of Hispanic children, which is apparently on the rise now because kids feel free to do it.
Say what you want about her, but I'd vote for a thousand corrupt hillarys before this horrible unstable man.

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nacho
08/15/16 3:29 pm

See the next question about media bias and where you get your stories about bullying.
Any stories abut how illegals feel free to flout our laws, fly foriegn flags at rallies and rape, assault and murder US citizens?
That's okay as long as anecdotal stories about elementary kids feeling unsafe is most important.
Sycophants.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
08/15/16 4:07 pm

There is positively no evidence to indicate that illegal immigrants commit crimes aside from those related to their immigration status at a higher rate than any other group in America, and some to indicate they commit less. And I'm really sorry if seeing a flag offends you, though I don't normally think conservatives to be the overly sensitive types.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:25 pm

What gives an ILLEGAL ALIEN the right to shove a Mexican flag in an American citizen's face? These people are illegal criminals and have no rights.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:27 pm

No one is shoving a flag in your face. Calm yourself.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:30 pm

RoDe: Tell that garbage to Kate Steinly's family and all the other families that have lost loved ones via the stupidity and illegal activity of illegal aliens. Even ONE American killed by an illegal alien is far far too many. Don't make excuses for these illegals. There is no valid excuse for them being here and less excuse for them to kill American citizens.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:32 pm

No excuse except that they do a lot of the shit work that a lot of us won't do or, sometimes, don't know to do.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:33 pm

Corny...oh no? What about the protestors at Trump Rallies? Hmmm? Sucker punching people, ripping their tee shirts, stealing their hats waving Mexican flags, throwing food and other projectiles AND shoving Mexican flags in American citizen's faces. There is no excuse that can make this ok EVER.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:35 pm

I don't give a shît what kind of work they do. They are illegal aliens breaking out laws and some of them think nothing of killing one of our citizens. It's outrageous!

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/15/16 4:36 pm

However you feel about illegal immigration, it's totally unacceptable to be violent just because you don't like trumps policies. I've seen the videos online and they're disgusting.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:37 pm

You should care. That kind of work keeps us all up and running. You're a moron.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:37 pm

And did I ever disagree with violence at trump rallies? I don't support anything like that.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:40 pm

I was talking more to captainbstring. It's ridiculous to conclude that because some people are crazy, it's okay for children to feel afraid of other children in an educational environment.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/15/16 4:40 pm

That's not ok either, you're right

nacho
08/15/16 4:41 pm

The rate would be zero if they were not here and that is what you can't seem to get thru your liberal head. ZERO!
Don't extrapolate stats as if they don't commit crimes more than anyone else-what a silly stupid argument. If they were not here -which is the issue -what would the rate be? ZERO - coincidentally the same number of times Hillary has told the truth about her emails.

As far as doing jobs no one else would do - 95 million people out of the workforce and 50 million on Food Stamps may feel differently and may actually work if there was not a class of illegals therefore cutting wages and benefit levels for legal workers. Yet the Dems - the party of the worker wants to import more and more to drive wages further down.
Again how do you define a Democrat - HYPOCRITE.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:45 pm

I'm an independent. And you've drawn this out into something I wasn't even arguing about. I hate Trump for a lot of reasons; one of the main ones being that he incites all kinds of violence. That's not okay, no matter how you cut it up.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:46 pm

"You're a moron." Ad hominem? Seriously? You lose.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:48 pm

"No one is shoving a flag in your face. Calm yourself." Trump rallies were my very valid example.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:49 pm

"And did I ever disagree with violence at trump rallies?" It appears you did not. Why do you support such garbage? Ps... What you said or didn't say is of no concern.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:51 pm

"The rate would be zero if they were not here and that is what you can't seem to get thru your liberal head. ZERO! " Nacho is 100% CORRECT and this fact is irrefutable.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:53 pm

"main ones being that he incites all kinds of violence. That's..." Where? I see violence outside trump rallies being carried out by violent leftist thugs, but not much happening inside trump rallies.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:54 pm

Illegal aliens are ILLEGAL and should be kicked out asap.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:55 pm

Round 'em up and ship 'em out! We may not get all of them, but most of them is a good start!

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 4:59 pm

Have you even been listening to the words coming out of his mouth? Maybe we should round up and ship out all the trump supporters too.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
08/15/16 5:05 pm

Don't have time to go through this thread and point out all the misrepresentations, but this one caught my eye right off the bat,

"What about the protestors at Trump Rallies? Hmmm? Sucker punching people"

Pretty sure everyone remembers all the Trump supporters attacking protesters for being disruptive. And again, who know flags could cause such consternation in people? I thought liberals were the ones demanding safe spaces lol.

dudley northern Virginia woods
08/15/16 6:06 pm

So if you think you can choose one bad over another bad, you've still got malo and nada

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
08/15/16 6:48 pm

Forget it rode, bstring is a mosquito. I put him on ignore.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/15/16 3:05 pm

It will appeal to her base. My question is are the volunteers or are they being paid...illegally?

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nacho
08/15/16 4:47 pm

They will be "unpaid interns" or be paid less than the minimim wage she spouts about and pays her workers.
If they do get paid, the females should expect to get paid less than 80% than the males just like her staff at the Foundation and campaign.
HYPOCRITE LIAR

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:57 pm

Hillary for prison! ..... With Obama in the cell next to her.

mpurple oh no. trump won.
08/15/16 2:58 pm

"Dreamers". I like it.

Go Hillary!! πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:58 pm

Illegal Aliens is what you mean factually?

mpurple oh no. trump won.
08/15/16 5:39 pm

"Undocumented" sounds better as "Dreamers".

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:51 pm

How 'bout just plain illegal aliens because that is what they are.

prallen Property and order
08/15/16 2:51 pm

If they're excited and opportunistic enough to call themselves "dreamers," they should probably work on becoming citizens

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Carcano Luke 10 19
08/15/16 2:36 pm

"Dreamers"

You mean illegal immigrant felons, right?

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Carcano Luke 10 19
08/15/16 2:37 pm

Also, I hope that "enlisting" doesn't mean "hiring". Hiring illegals is a crime.

cowboy Doors of Perception
08/15/16 2:14 pm

The traitorous Felon is signing up illegal foreigners to vote? And moronic Americans think your vote matters... πŸ™„

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elcondor Rural Southern Indiana
08/15/16 1:31 pm

"Hey! And while you're there, since there is no proof of identification required, feel free to vote as many times as you like!!!"...

Democ-rats...

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TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 1:39 pm

They still mark your name off.

JulieB The Lake House
08/15/16 1:58 pm

Wow! It's an air-tight system.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:59 pm

I'm going to vote under 500 pseudonyms!!

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 4:59 pm

Prove I'm not who I say I am..... I don't have to show ID.

TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 5:00 pm

They have a list of registered voters. You can't really do that.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 7:54 pm

I'll just say I'm an illegal alien and they'll roll out the red... I mean blue carpet for me!

JulieB The Lake House
08/15/16 10:08 pm

Socialist, as long as it's a name on the list that doesn't already have a signature, he CAN do that.

adam180 Pennsylvania
08/15/16 1:28 pm

I mean, it's a little redundant considering anyone who's sympathetic to illegals is voting for her regardless.

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ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 1:34 pm

I am sympathetic to illegals. In no way, shape, or any form will I vote for Hillary or Trump. The tax returns are comical as well. I can't wait to see trumps too. We are voting for hypocritical, idiots, and sociopathic dicks.

adam180 Pennsylvania
08/15/16 1:39 pm

I worded that wrong, she's shoring up the Hispanic vote. Which is a little redundant considering there vast majority are supporting her over trump.

SauceBoss nj
08/15/16 2:13 pm

100% agree

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 3:06 pm

If the Hispanic vote saw her views in every past election, it would be a completely different story.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 1:27 pm

Just a few years ago, Mrs Clinton sounded like trump on immigration. I hope all the democrats understand that, but donkeys will apparently blindly follow their "chosen" leader. She a hypocrite, and flip flops for votes. She has been so far out of touch with the middle class it's completely ludicrous. Just follow her income and her go-to "track record", as she so loves to speak of. She propagates her version of "affordable education", yet makes millions from speaking to students. Since she knows the majority of Americans see her unfavorably, perhaps she will win votes from the non American. She speaks of "good paying jobs" but how are the majority of immigrants employed? She is trying to make herself look innocent, but she is far from it. I am a dedicated educated worker trying my best, why am I not considered a "dreamer"? The titles these candidates give to people are either polarizing or shameful. No s--t they are dreamers, WE ALL ARE!

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TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 2:01 pm

NPR had a Latino on air talking about that same thing, I don't think anyone listened though. Not that there is a better option anyways.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 2:21 pm

I believe there is a better option. Stein, or Johnson?. Or perhaps any individual you believe who will be honorable in their presidency, or however anyone you define as presidential.

TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 2:22 pm

Stein is an anti-science hippie, Johnson is an anarchist.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 2:40 pm

Is that not better then a lying, sociopathic, narcissists, or a power driven, blood thirsty authoritarian? I would love to debate you on Johnson. It's funny how a socialist and a classic liberal can agree on one thing. But be rigorously disagree on another.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 2:42 pm

If you would like a nice debate, free of directed shameful name calling of each other, let me know.

TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 2:43 pm

I'd prefer reelecting Obama, he was actually a respectable, centrist president. One of our best (despite what conservatives say).

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 2:45 pm

Seriously. Why is Johnson an anarchist? I can't debate much on Jill stein, I don't know much regarding her details. I know some people love her.

TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 2:47 pm

He is a libertarian. Low taxes and minimal military/government. The state monopoly on force is what makes the state, he would privatize that. And as for Stein, it is the usual anti-GMO foolishness.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 2:54 pm

I think Obama was presidential, I do however question many of his decisions. Did he lower the cost of healthcare or simply subsidize funds? Before trumps statement of the founder of Isis, I firmly believed his administration armed Isis. We directly armed Isis through a proxy we thought were moderate rebels in Syria.

ProperQuestions Reductio ad absurdum
08/15/16 2:56 pm

Did you see that Gary Johnson balanced his budget in New Mexico? All without anarchy. He is not for no government, but the correct amount as needed. No more no less. The correct amount can be further debated but let's not divulge.

nacho
08/15/16 4:59 pm

A respectable centrist? In what world? ACA built on lies and a flawed recount involving felons voting in Minnesota is centrist? Iran deal built on lies is centrist? Illegal executive actions on the border is centrist. Doubling the debt in 8 years is centrist? Trillions of dollars in regulations is centrist? IRS targeting of conservatives is centrist? Saying if Republicans bring a knife he would bring a gun to a fight is centrist? Being the chief spokesman for the religion of peace" as they slaughter Americans is centrist?
In what world is he a centrist? Compared to marxism and communism maybe.

TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 5:02 pm

I doubt you understand what two debt even means. And his executive actions were not illegal. As for the other arguments, they are fringe conspiracies and accusations of nonexistent lies.

nacho
08/15/16 5:07 pm

The courts say they were illegal and thus they are illegal as much as you hate to admit it.

Doubled the debt is a fact.

Trillions in regulation is a fact.

Lied about ACA is a fact or did you not hear that no one would have to give up their doctor and the cost would lower by $2500 per family - demonstrably false now and at the time he said it -ask Gruber.
Which one is a conspiracy?

nacho
08/15/16 5:13 pm

I forgot that he was sorry that people "misheard him" when he was explaining the benefits of the ACA.
Not a lie but shame on us for "mishearing" him.

TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 6:00 pm

Exactly, why don't you leave the elections to those who can properly hear and understand things?

cluney
08/15/16 12:43 pm

While we are at it lets round up all the murders and call them "overpopulation improvement administrators" and they can all go vote Hillary too.

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/15/16 12:50 pm

Overpopulation improvement administrators πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

MyRedSkirt Cali
08/15/16 1:05 pm

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!! 😜

Malekithe Hades
08/15/16 12:40 pm

As they are out recruiting round them up and deport them

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mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/15/16 2:31 pm

Exactly. Immigration should have a field day on these illegals.

rons WOKE is sick
08/15/16 12:27 pm

Too bad she will win. Going to my safe space for four years.

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TheSocialist INTJ
08/15/16 2:02 pm

Saudi Arabia

rons WOKE is sick
08/15/16 5:24 pm

No, my backyard to talk to the goldfish. I name them all Fred so there is no confusion. No Donald's, no Hillary's, just 12 Fred's.

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
08/15/16 8:00 pm

Sounds like heaven.

makem Chinese Xinjiang Camp
08/15/16 12:17 pm

Strategically, yes. Good from my POV, no.

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scrpnHOG Arizona
08/15/16 12:17 pm

I don't always run for president but when I do I like when people break laws and vote anyways

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phalnx Ohio
08/15/16 12:15 pm

Pretty cool idea...I'll bet that's VERY EFFECTIVE on their relatives and friends who are citizens :).

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nacho
08/15/16 12:07 pm

Since when is it a okay and a strategic advantage to have people who broke the law and are not here legally to be part of and supported by a national political campaign?
If Trump brought a thousand Russian here on visitors visas (thus here legally) and organized them to campaign for him - would they Dems celebrate or cry foul?
Non citizens influencing the outcome of an election is okay in the world of liberal hypocrisy or as we call it just another day in double standard fantasy land.
How do they even look in the mirror? Disgusting pandering but as always with the liar and her disbarred lying husband it is politically expedient and they will stain them like Monica Lewinsky's blue dress and drop them like Anita Broderick's panties when it no longer serves their personal political interest.
Liar liar but what do you expect after all ... you can keep your doctor.....

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Congressman Louisiana
08/15/16 12:06 pm

But if they're here illegally........

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mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/15/16 12:05 pm

Dreamers? Ohhhhh, you mean illegal immigrants that broke into our country and are criminals just for being here. Yea, a person going for president should totally ignore all that and actually employ them physically for political gain... I vomited a little just thinking about it. The only thing any politician should do to illegals is deport there azzez. Fuqing criminals.

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mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/15/16 12:10 pm

The fact that SoH even tried to sugar coat it and used that verbiage instead of what they really are.... Bias. As. fuq. Nice try SoH.

gameplayer2014 Constipated Clefable
08/15/16 12:18 pm

Our country is like our house. You call them burglars. Not dreamers cause they want to live in your house. They want to milk this country out of its money to become rich in Mexico. Some don't do this but some do. Not to mention the drugs a good few bring in.

mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/15/16 12:22 pm

It's inconceivable to me that her as a criminal is actually openly employing other open criminals... If I was immigration I would rent U-Hauls (lmao the irony) as patty wagons and have a fuqing field day.

IamKatherine Respect
08/16/16 9:24 am

You mean like Melania?

mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/16/16 9:26 am

Wait... Is she third party running for president? Last I checked she was not running for political office but I'll look into it.

IamKatherine Respect
08/16/16 9:26 am

By the way, before anyone freaks out. I'm kidding.

political Georgia
08/15/16 12:03 pm

There's a reason why we call them undocumented democrats.

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gonzoboy Arizona
08/15/16 11:50 am

This is an excellent plan. In terms of strategy and turnout, it's nearly flawless. Not only does this appeal practically and emotionally to entire demographic, it also appeals to a Nation of those who sympathize. This is a politician's politician.

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TomM
08/15/16 12:00 pm

Exactly what I think too.

JulieB The Lake House
08/15/16 2:02 pm

In other words, a criminal's criminal.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
08/15/16 11:45 am

Depends on what your criteria are for a "good plan". It is likely to work, but should be illegal.

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geoag02 Dallas, TX
08/15/16 11:50 am

I mean, if being a US citizen is such a basic human right, why not have the United States annex Mexico and grant US citizenship to all Mexican citizens?

gameplayer2014 Constipated Clefable
08/15/16 12:15 pm

It would cost trillions and a lot of men for a war effort. Drug cartels won't like it is what I'm saying.

17Nick76 Proud New Yorker
08/15/16 11:45 am

I call them illegals

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shygal47 Florida east coast
08/15/16 11:39 am

Frankly I resent the idea of ANY politician using an illegal immigrant for voter registration. This is a terrible idea that is sure to backfire.

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TomM
08/15/16 11:44 am

Why would it backfire. Based on your short comment I would guess you wouldn't vote for her. The people voting for her don't care.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/15/16 11:54 am

Yeah I don't see it backfiring. This is a great strategy to prey on people's fears. Hillary is a smart woman.

shygal47 Florida east coast
08/15/16 12:01 pm

If an illegal immigrant approached me to ask me to register to vote, I would most likely tell them that, unlike them, I'm legal and already registered. You may think that's snooty of me but I see that non-citizen in effect questioning the patriotism of a citizen.
As for who I'll vote for, I can tell you this - it won't be Trump.

TomM
08/15/16 12:30 pm

@shygal, I took a guess you would be more likely to be a Trump than Hillary supporter, my bad. If someone approached you to register, how would you even know they're illegal, would you even consider it? I'm guessing these people will be asked to go to people they know, in their own community, church, through friends, family etc, and find people who are eligible but not registered. I think it's a brilliant plan from her perspective (and FYI I don't support either).

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shygal47 Florida east coast
08/15/16 12:44 pm

I don't know how to explain... I sign petitions about things people want to be considered for inclusion on the ballot. O suppose it's foolish of me to expect that only registered voters would sign - but that is what I expect. Voting is important to me. If I were to discover later than an illegal alien had registered me then I would consider my registration invalid. I would have notify the League of Women Voters for clarification on the legality of my vote.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
08/15/16 11:39 am

People who entered the United States illegally and "dream" of being able to apply for citizenship some day.

TomM
08/15/16 11:41 am

People brought to the U.S. by their parents. Now as adults or near adults they can only remember living in the U.S.

phalnx Ohio
08/15/16 12:13 pm

People who haven't found the Rainbow Connection yet...the lovers, the dreamers...and me :).

TomM
08/15/16 11:34 am

Sure they're dedicated. Why wouldn't it be a good plan.