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If the presidential election were held today, would you be more likely to vote for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? (8/12/2016)

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Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/25/16 5:22 pm

Clinton, but I won't be voting for either.

IwillTrollYou Paradise
08/18/16 4:41 pm

Neither because neither of them are trustworthy in my personal opinion. I don't like that we only have two choices here because there are more than two.

AlaEh
08/16/16 9:29 pm

I think this upcoming election result will shock a lot of Americans. There is a "silent majority" in America that do not fully express where they stand regarding the candidates, especially the Trump leaning folks. Why? Because they don't want to be branded as racist or be mocked by the Progressives.

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PB246 California
08/14/16 11:18 pm

You know when a kid gets in trouble and then the adult says if you lie about it, that makes it even worse? I feel like that's how I feel about the election this year. Both aren't super maybe but at least one of them is out there and consistently says what they think where the other consistently lies. I'd rather be open and up front about something and disagree rather than get blindsided by lies

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Octavian Phoenix
08/13/16 10:16 pm

These polls are useless. The hugely disproportionate amount of Republicans and libertarians will always skew the results

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Erenxbread Wisconsin
08/13/16 8:53 pm

This app is full of stupid republicans

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palindrome California
08/16/16 6:24 pm

The whole internet is pretty damn right-leaning. Lots and lots of white men with an Internet connection, limited *real* outside social interactions and A LOT of free time on their hands ... And this is what you have.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/25/16 11:15 pm

Eren this app is filled with a lot of stupid liberals. The Internet is definitely more liberal biased

RINOTom Peoria, IL
08/13/16 4:17 pm

I refuse to choose between these trash candidates.

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FalloutBoy97 Ohio
08/13/16 7:53 pm

Johnson, Stein, other or abstain?

brinrawson Knoxville and DC
08/14/16 12:38 am

Except you had to to vote in this poll πŸ™„

RINOTom Peoria, IL
08/15/16 9:27 am

Johnson. And I've switched it daily. :P

dxstap Bloomington, Indiana
08/13/16 3:39 pm

Continuing to alternate my answer for this poll.
Clinton this time.

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palindrome California
08/13/16 1:45 pm

If it's this close on SoH with its ridiculous conservative lean... Donald is in TROUBLE.

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/13/16 7:22 pm

Exactly! Romney would have won in a landslide last time if SoH was an indicator.

dirkdd
08/13/16 1:08 pm

This poll makes me feel better about all the other polls that make me scratch my head.

brinrawson Knoxville and DC
08/14/16 12:40 am

SOH has an insane conservative leaning. Don't let this poll make you think the ones adjusted to population are inaccurate.

mrken
08/13/16 9:22 am

Pennsylvania! Mark my word, it will come down to you, so bring a friend and vote!

Unless you want to become California (where undocumented immigrants overrun healthcare systems and public schools) or Michigan (where unions bankrupt industries)

Your not small enough to close your doors and protect your liberal bubble like Vermont (94% white) Connecticut (77% white)

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mrken
08/13/16 9:23 am

*You're

Ganji
08/13/16 8:50 am

SoH polling gets dramatically different results than national polling. It is more indicative of users rather than reality.

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JulieB The Lake House
08/13/16 9:55 am

Too bad. SOH users seem to be more informed.

MJSeals J.D.
08/13/16 8:21 am

Lol electoral count is:
Trump: 354
Clinton: 141

Colorado, nebraska, Iowa, Ohio and West Virginia are ties.

Just shows SOH =\= reality

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krayzewolf New Hampshire
08/13/16 6:34 am

Trump for this, Johnson in November.

Not for nothing, but your numbers are skewed because there are many here that in the real world, they will never vote for Trump or Clinton.

TheDoN Tricities, WA
08/13/16 5:57 am

Neither. No one should vote for either of these people.

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everybodysmom illinois
08/12/16 9:22 pm

Ok here it is. Our country is headed In a horrible direction. It's time top it your big boy panties on and really think about this. It is better to lower your standards on things said temporarily by a guy who is putting America first than to lose our country FOREVER. We only have a couple years left to turn this economy around before there's no turning back. Give him a chance. Clintons have been given chance after chance. She's sick. Someone else is pulling the strings.

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makem Chinese Xinjiang Camp
08/12/16 9:18 pm

On a slightly more serious, yet still way out there and silly note, if I wrote in Jesus, would he likely be counted as a Republican or Democrat? For the sake of this nonsense, assume 3rd party don't exist.

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everybodysmom illinois
08/12/16 9:23 pm

He would never be a democrat. Democrats wanted to keep slavery and have no morals.

LtCrisco23 Unabashed Millennial
08/12/16 9:55 pm

A conservative in 1880 would've wants the same thing. It was a state's rights argument. Party isn't everything, can't compare that to modern times. Both parties are equally immoral, find a third option if you want any progress to be made in our country ever

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/13/16 12:15 am

Jesus is conservative so he would be on the Republican ticket

xxxceo Nationalist
08/13/16 6:38 pm

Jesus wasn't a whiner. He's conservative.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/13/16 8:13 pm

Exactly. Jesus is conservative

Erenxbread Wisconsin
08/13/16 8:55 pm

There is no way he would be a conservative, he gave medical treatment for free and wasn't for the rich controlling everything. Not to mention wasn't a racist.

xxxceo Nationalist
08/13/16 9:05 pm

Raising the dead and helping the blind to see isn't considered free "medical treatment" πŸ˜‚

As far as conservatives are concerned, you forgot sexist, xenophobic, islamaphobic, homophobic, transphobic, and bigoted science deniers. Any other buzzwords popular this month?

Anyway, Jesus believed in God. Therefore, he's Republican.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/14/16 11:05 am

Eren you are so delusional. There is no way Jesus is liberal. Jesus is very conservative

gimlihog Esper
08/25/16 9:28 pm

Jesus was a pacifist that believed in free healthcare, lenient to no punishment for criminals ( at least in this life), told his followers to pay their taxes, was against people having large amounts of money and material possessions etc.
Jesus was very liberal even by today's standards.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/25/16 11:14 pm

You clearly don't understand at all. Jesus is conservative by today's standards. He taught for you to help the poor, not to create government programs that steal from other people to do it. He taught that you work for your rewards but it's okay to have help. But not be dependent on help. It's not the government's job to give handouts. Liberals dont care about the poor, they just make poor people dependent so that the liberals can stay in power. Conservatives believe in Christian values and that you earn your money and help is good. Jesus is conservative.

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 4:26 am

1. You disagreed with me and then didn't address any of my points so I suppose we can consider them valid until that changes.

2. I'm going to not address that line about government programs because Jesus wasn't a part of the government so it is irrelevant.

3. That line about working for your income but needing help every now and then, no. Jesus advised his disciples to go into town with nothing but their clothes/ sandals and continually ask people for shelter until someone would let them stay in their house and provide food for them. If no one would do this then the disciples would go to another town.
In short Jesus taught the disciples to be beggars that depended upon the charity of other people for sustenance, doesn't sound very conservative to me.
4. You seem to be making the assumption that Christians and that Christian values are inherently conservative. What do you call a pacifist who believes in free healthcare has no job, no income and opposes capital punishment?

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 6:42 am

You are so wrong. Sorry but everything I said was true. The disciples were testing to see if people would help, has nothing to do with being dependent. You clearly don't understand at all. In those days people actually earned all of that help. Jesus is conservative

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 7:13 am

The disciples were testing people to see if they would help by asking them for and then accepting their help on a consistent basis?

Just because they could've earned their income if they wanted to does not change the fact that their food and shelter came directly from other people.

Everyone in those days earned all of that help? There were plenty of beggars mentioned in the Bible. Are you suggesting that asking for and receiving aid from others is the same as earning that aid?

Don't forget there is still the pacifism, criminal leniency, free healthcare and anti-capital punishment ideologies on the "Jesus was a liberal" side.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 8:13 am

You really don't understand at all. So if you are a beggar that makes you someone who doesn't deserve help? Those beggars actually deserved help. Disciples also worked hard and deserved help. Oh and by the way Jesus is obviously socially conservative. Pretty sure he is against killing babies. If you think Jesus is pro choice then you are pretty much admitting you are delusional.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 8:14 am

Also, the free Healthcare thing is nothing like liberalism today. The people who received health care from Jesus earned it. Jesus is conservative.

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 8:25 am

Earlier you said it was against the teachings of Jesus to be dependent on help.

I showed that his followers were taught to be dependent on help and those Jesus helped were dependent on that help.

Now you say that it's ok because everyone back then deserved that help?

You also seem to be implying that there are people today that don't deserve such help.

By what means do you get to decide exactly who deserves help?

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 8:27 am

You clearly don't understand what I am saying. It is against his teachings to be dependent on help. But they weren't being dependent. Sorry but Jesus is not liberal at all. Jesus is conservative by today's standards

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 8:35 am

noun: dependant
a person who relies on another, especially a family member, for financial support.

We've already established that the disciples relied on others from their financial needs and that beggars inherently do so as well. That makes them dependent by definition.

You are right, I am really unclear as to how you are trying to prove your point.

xxxceo Nationalist
08/26/16 11:41 am

Gim, you totally ignored Trus argument regarding abortion. I'd also add that Jesus is against gay marriage.

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 11:47 am

I didn't mention abortion because I don't recall abortion clinics existing 2,000+ years ago or what the alternative would have been.

In Leviticus the Bible condemns gay sex, I don't recall it condemning gay marriage.

Also Jesus was incredibly forgiving of sinners in his company and regardless of what they did he would've allowed them to live without persecution. So I doubt he would've made it illegal.

xxxceo Nationalist
08/26/16 11:51 am

But they do exist today. So, you're saying Jesus would've just shrugged it off?
Regarding gay marriage, are you saying Jesus would've also shrugged that off due to a loophole in the wording differentiating between sex and marriage?
Yes, he would've forgiven them, but if he was a liberal there would be nothing to forgive because he would've been cool with it.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 8:15 pm

Gim, you have to understand by today's standards what conservatism is. Jesus is definitely conservative

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 8:27 pm

Jesus did not make a habit of persecuting or punishing sinners, aside from personally talking to some of them and trying to get them to change their ways he would be cool with it.

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 8:29 pm

Ok, how about this?
You find a reasonable and coherent list detailing the values and principles of modern conservatism and liberalism, post them here and then we will go through and see how many principles from each are applicable to Jesus.
After that we end this discussion and move on.
Cool?

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 8:29 pm

Ok, how about this?
You find a reasonable and coherent list detailing the values and principles of modern conservatism and liberalism, post them here and then we will go through and see how many principles from each are applicable to Jesus.
After that we end this discussion and move on.
Cool?

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 8:55 pm

I already showed modern conservative values and Jesus values. Jesus is conservative

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 8:59 pm

"He taught for you to help the poor, not to create government programs that steal from other people to do it. He taught that you work for your rewards but it's okay to have help. But not be dependent on help. It's not the government's job to give handouts. Liberals dont care about the poor, they just make poor people dependent so that the liberals can stay in power. Conservatives believe in Christian values and that you earn your money and help is good. Jesus is conservative."

Is this what you mean by conservative and "Jesus values"?
Is this what you think the extent of modern conservatism is?

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/26/16 9:13 pm

Everything I said is true

gimlihog Esper
08/26/16 9:18 pm

Dude, I think we are done here. It's been a nice 5+hours but I'm sick of this. I don't think you are going to consider an alternate view to any of this and I don't think I'm ever going to comprehend wether you have a point or not.

How about we both agree to end this and then have a lovely time doing something that isn't this?
Deal?

Spiritof76 USA 1776
08/12/16 7:55 pm

Gary Johnson/William Weld! Not going to play their games anymore.

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Arya8
08/13/16 5:27 am

He would perhaps be a better choice. But he was legitimized so it's Bolton now. πŸ˜‚

kealad1
08/12/16 6:16 pm

Feel the Johnson

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flobotscott88
08/12/16 9:12 pm

Why vote for the left nut or the right nut when you can have the Johnson

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:34 am

Johnson is a lemming just like Perot in both other Clinton presidential wins, a distraction for weed smokers (I'm one!) to not vote Republican

Seriously the best us libertarians can do is a THC extract executive? Give me a break

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/13/16 8:47 am

Oh for goodness sakes, people aren't going to vote for Johnson because he smokes reefer? I thought I read somewhere he stopped. Besides, didn't Obama smoke reefer at one point of his life? Clinton?

mr300zhb
08/13/16 10:45 am

A turn of phrase ladyniner, I mean non traditional Republicans who are fiscally conservative put partly socially liberal, pro choice, don't care about gay marriage, etc...

TxCross44 Texas
08/12/16 5:47 pm

I've heard this question way too much

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 5:20 pm

I'd rather not vote for either of these, but Stein seems to be working very hard at taking herself out of consideration. Without Stein, Clinton will be the only (but still poor) choice left.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 7:07 pm

Not an option in any universe in any sense of the word. Regardless of one's political leanings, the only answer to the question of a Trump presidency is a simple "no".

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 7:47 pm

Every reason imaginable. I have a TV and access to Twitter. He demonstrates his unprecedented lack of qualification to serve every time he opens his mouth or posts a comment.

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 7:49 pm

What did he say that makes you say that

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 8:01 pm

Everything he has said in public since announcing his candidacy. I can't think of a single thing that wasn't racist, sexist, a deliberate outright lie, or just plain incorrect. And none of it was presented in a manner that could be considered presidential by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not sure what he needs more, a copy of the constitution, a dictionary, or a competent and incredibly patient adult to explain them to him. He comes across as a complete failure as a human being, much less as an American or candidate for even a local low-level office.

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 8:04 pm

But specifically what did he say. If everything he says is racist or sexist you can come up with something specific.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 8:37 pm

It really is everything. From his racist comments about a natural-born American judge of Mexican heritage being unable to be impartial (because of Trump's Mexico wall), to his calling a female debate moderator a "bimbo", to his call for a ban on foreign Muslims entering the US, to suggesting using nuclear weapons against ISIS, to his most recent nonsense about Obama (and later HRC) being the "founders" of ISIS, and everything in-between, every time he speaks he demonstrates he is unfit for the job. If you have access to Google, or watch the news on TV, you can find or remember dozens more. Maybe hundreds.

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 8:51 pm

The judge that trump didn't want was supposedly a member of national council of la raza which has voiced the dislike they for trump and his immigration policy.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 8:57 pm

Making excuses for the sorry POS doesn't make him any less of a disgusting excuse for a human being, or any more fit to be our president.

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 8:59 pm

But the thing is you're confusing racism with wanted to be treated fairly... And btw the woman he Called a bimbo is now supporting him

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 9:04 pm

And wanting to temporarily ban Muslims from coming in the us is also not racist. In the Quran it literally instructs Muslims to kill the infidels. "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out"

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 9:04 pm

That's a quote directly from the Quran

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 9:08 pm

Oh and about Obama creating Isis, he may not have created them but he has certainly allowed them to grow. His refusal to face the fact that Isis is an evil that needs to be stopped has allowed them to become a major threat to society.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 10:15 pm

I wouldn't have bet I there being that much Kool Aid on the whole planet.

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 10:17 pm

And now that I have presented facts the insults start coming in

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/16 10:37 pm

Making up excuses for the inexcusable is not the same as offering facts, and anyone who promotes the whole "Muslims bad" BS Trump has been spewing for years deserves nothing but insults.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:21 am

You've clearly only heard what NBC and CNN chose for you to hear

Open your GD ears man. Compare what Hillary used to say to the BS she says now on Gatti marriage, trade deals, African Americans, etc...

Plenty of you tube videos out there can help you

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:27 am

A judge is human, how could you say that he wouldn't be biased based upon his heritage? Be honest now. It's not like his family emigrated here hundreds of years ago

Please drive through Peekskill NY, Brewster NY, mount Vernon NY, mount Kisco NY and Yonkers and tell us we don't have an awful illegal mexican/Guatemalan immigrant problem

Leave the comfort of your own insulated town (wherever that is) and open your eyes

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:30 am

I don't see Christians and Jews tossing homosexuals off rooftops buddy. If course they aren't all bad, he just wants to better control who gets in and who doesn't

You have swallowed the media's spin lock stock and barrel haven't ya

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:31 am

*gay marriage! I don't thing anyone cares about Gatti marriage haha

sambaker777 Arizona
08/13/16 9:46 am

Zod im not making excuses for trump I'm simply saying what happened and how the mainstream media twists the truth to benefit democrats

theNobamist Silicon Valley
08/12/16 5:15 pm

Trump 2016 and 2020 πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/12/16 5:46 pm

That's....embarrassing. But, hey...own it!

sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 6:38 pm

Why's that embarrassing. Trump is a guy that wants to help this country

mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/12/16 8:12 pm

And 2024 if was possible πŸ’ͺπŸΎπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

Carter240 Philosophy student
08/12/16 4:45 pm

I think it's funny that nearly 80% of SOH users with Doctoral degrees say Clinton.

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mrken
08/12/16 5:04 pm

That's funny I just corrected my profile and it went down to 74%...πŸ€“

Carter240 Philosophy student
08/12/16 5:05 pm

That hardly makes anything better haha

mikeyDe Marine Corps
08/12/16 4:44 pm

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Making it great again. Trump all day

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potatoes
08/12/16 4:36 pm

As long as the sun keeps rising I won't vote Trump.

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spicysteve M14D SBS
08/12/16 4:13 pm

HRC is a very VERY flawed candidate, and is far from a first choice, but I will probably be voting for her this November. Sigh.

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mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:39 am

I would ask you to please not do that.

I've done plenty of appraisal work for the Rockefeller family in Pocantico Hills NY. Beloved me, Nelson would not have voted Hillary

spicysteve M14D SBS
08/13/16 10:26 am

Probably not. But I don't think he'd be too hot on DJT either.

EarlyBird Portland
08/12/16 4:09 pm

Where did we, the American people, go so wrong?

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veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 4:20 pm

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

makem Chinese Xinjiang Camp
08/12/16 9:25 pm

Then somewhere along the line our ancestors decided it was a swell idea to come together into cities. You know, we piss one another off a great deal when we are nomads that coming together to build a place where I now can't just walk away from you will definitely improve things right?

Then came wars because of that.
Then a lot of other crap happened and long story short, things got screwed up before the universe formed, and only got worse from there. It's science, the 2nd law of thermodynamics in some sense.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:41 am

Hitchhikers guide? Good quote!

Manodrizzle Here
08/12/16 4:05 pm

Even though Hillary is bad, Trump is worse. He doesn't know the first thing about being President. He also is just a bad person based on what he says.

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Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 5:19 pm

Hillary is a bad person based what she does.

Manodrizzle Here
08/12/16 5:23 pm

Yeah she has, but trump has done/said more.

Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 5:30 pm

Oh really? How many people has trump killed, has trump been ever investigated by the FBI before? Has he ever called his Latino voters "taco bowl"? How many jobs has Hillary created? Zero. Hillary Clinton is one of the most corrupt and evil people on this earth. Trump is a loud mouth but at least he actually cares about the welfare of this country and its people.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/12/16 5:36 pm

That's hilarious!

Manodrizzle Here
08/12/16 5:59 pm

Trump only cares about him self. He's still worse. He also talks like he'd have many more people die than Hillary.

mr300zhb
08/12/16 6:49 pm

We all only care about ourselves if you are being honest. Read some Ayn Rand, selfish people affect change

Manodrizzle Here
08/12/16 7:02 pm

True but he seems more selfish than her. He's also has 4 bankruptcies. So he hasn't "won" as much as he says he has.

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/13/16 8:52 am

Whoever said Ayn Rand, I read one of her books. It was a hard read, very wordy. I don't know if I want to read another. Yeesh

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/13/16 9:35 am

It's obvious that Hillary is worse than Trump

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 10:31 am

Sir/Madsm that is not how discussions work. I think the same for trump, but you still have to point out the reasons other people might not see. Like how trump is a racist for his stance on Mexicans and Muslims.

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 10:33 am

Hillary seemed to have some moments in get past life with what seemed to be racism and African Americans, but it would seem she had changed now.

Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/13/16 10:35 am

Well he's kind of telling the truth... Over half of the Muslim population in the world could be considered radicalized and illegal aliens are bring crime into the country soooo.

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 10:39 am

That is not the truth. It's lies, look it up not on fox news.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 10:43 am

Prove it is "lies" of learned world traveler. When was the last time you were in Syria or Egypt?

Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/13/16 10:46 am

I actually don't watch Fox News lol. Try again

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 10:47 am

You can't base your opinions of just what you see. We each have different experiences and you might be in the minority of seeing it that way. Also what did you see that was "radical?"

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 10:48 am

Good, fox news is really shit.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 10:51 am

All cable news is propaganda... we all know this

From what information are ayour opinions formed?

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 10:54 am

Yeah I don't watch cable news for the same reason.

smoothboy1982 Lexington Ky
08/13/16 7:19 pm

Lmao Fox News ? I think it's funny that your voting for Hilary and you watch Fox News hahaha. In any case she is going to win by a landslide unless Trump has a trump card to play in the debates

RJ1969 SoCal
08/13/16 7:21 pm

Or he drops out and someone else enters the race.

Manodrizzle Here
08/13/16 7:24 pm

I never said I watch Fox news or was voting for Hillary, so I'm confuse.

MrHappyPants Gary Johnson 2k16
08/12/16 3:53 pm

Why is Gary not included?

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mpurple oh no. trump won.
08/12/16 5:57 pm

Every time I see your name, I laugh. 😹

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/14/16 5:28 am

I do too. I think of David Letterman lol

MJSeals J.D.
08/12/16 3:44 pm

Current electoral college SOH standing is:
Clinton : 205
Trump : 255

Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin and Minnesota were ties.

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MJSeals J.D.
08/12/16 3:44 pm

202 for Clinton
South Dakota -> Tie

Carter240 Philosophy student
08/12/16 4:46 pm

Yeah but realistically he's behind 5-15% in those states now.

Carter240 Philosophy student
08/12/16 4:47 pm

Some of those states. He's getting destroyed overall

MJSeals J.D.
08/13/16 8:17 am

This is SOH standings. I know every well Trump is going to lose and Clinton should easily break the 300 electoral vote mark.

smoothboy1982 Lexington Ky
08/12/16 3:32 pm

Aaahhhh they both suck!!!!

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Advil sc
08/12/16 3:22 pm

The ignorant liberal "gimmie" class will vote themselves a pay raise as soon as they become a majority. We may be there now.

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ishady 86451132020
08/12/16 2:59 pm

Gonna vote for trump because I'm for winning, Donald says we don't win anymore,and that we might have to beg him to stop winning, we will get sick of winning.

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ishady 86451132020
08/12/16 2:59 pm

Anybody who doesn't like winning is a loosah.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/12/16 3:39 pm

What about people who write run-on sentences?

ishady 86451132020
08/12/16 4:11 pm

They are loosahs.

tractorman Oklahoma
08/12/16 2:59 pm

The fact that 56% of the respondents would vote for An egotistical megalomaniac speaks volumes about the severe problems in our educational systems here in the USA..

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jakeysnakey
08/12/16 3:08 pm

The fact that there is actually people voting for Hillary the killary is very scary. That proves the education system isn't working. You think they would teach not vote for a lier and a killer.

veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 3:12 pm

"the education system isn't working"

"lier"

RJ1969 SoCal
08/12/16 3:40 pm

"There is [sic] actually people"

sleepingforrest I miss my cat
08/12/16 4:10 pm

The fact that these out options is the real issue.

AmericanWolf For the Benefit of All
08/12/16 5:32 pm

Lier - "a person or thing that lies, as in wait or ambush"

Liar - "a person who tells lies"

RJ1969 SoCal
08/12/16 5:34 pm

You think they would teach not vote.

mr300zhb
08/12/16 6:52 pm

Wow! Your screen name is Latin! You must be a smarty pants Veritas. I guess you've never had a typo on a tablet huh?

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:44 am

Never mind that dope has misspelled it like 5 times! LIAR not LIER Jakey!

AmericanWolf For the Benefit of All
08/12/16 2:54 pm

Voting for Clinton to stop Trump.

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Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 5:20 pm

Voting for trump to stop Clinton.

J33 New Jersey
08/12/16 2:31 pm

Anyone that says they are voting for that lying evil crook Hillary.. Look in the mirror and slap the shit out of yourself..

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veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 2:32 pm

Ok. Done. Now what? Should I donate to her campaign, as well? Because the slapping really motivated me.

J33 New Jersey
08/12/16 2:36 pm

Don't worry about donating. You will be contributing plants out of your pay check if that crook gets elected.

J33 New Jersey
08/12/16 2:37 pm

Plenty

veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 2:42 pm

Actually, since I am not among the richest 1% of income earners, my tax rate wouldn't really change at all under Clinton's tax plan.

Maybe you spend a little less time slapping yourself and a little more time doing some research.

J33 New Jersey
08/12/16 2:45 pm

Keep living in your delusions!

jakeysnakey
08/12/16 3:10 pm

Vert- maybe if you would stop voting for a killer and a lier and actually do some research you would realize Hillary is not that good.

veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 3:13 pm

I've don't plenty of research. I appreciate your concern, but I'll be voting for the "lier."

jakeysnakey
08/12/16 3:16 pm

Alright just thought id let you know.

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 3:19 pm

Dude, twice you misspelled liar. Come on

Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 5:21 pm

Hillary just said a day or two ago that she's going to raise taxes on the middle classπŸ˜‚

mr300zhb
08/12/16 6:57 pm

Tormund, you of all people should like the wall idea, right? Too bad we can't vote Stannis 2016

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 7:01 pm

Well technically Tormund is an immigrant and I'm pretty sure that dude hates walls, so

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:01 pm

Veritas, grow the pie and we can all pay less. My company has paid almost $400k in taxes on just over $1 million in revenue. It's just too damn much. I want to hire new appraisers but I can't afford to with the GD taxes in NYS. She wants to take even more from me and it just isn't fair. Why is it I get destroyed because my revenue stream us all above board but some landscaper can charge cash and hire illegals and skate off my dollar? It is frustrating as hell

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:03 pm

Why is he hiding behind it then Tormund? Nance's intent was to protect the free folk behind the south side of the wall. Stannis let them in legally with his permission as rightful king, so you should rethink that

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 7:07 pm

You got it twisted buddy. Mance's primary objective was to get passed the whole so the free folk could live in the north and not beyond the wall (because the free folk would likely die through the harsh winter that is coming). And also, Jon Snow let the free folk through, not Stannis. Get your GOT shit tight, sahn.

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:11 pm

"My people have bled enough, we're not here to conquer, we're here to hide behind your wall"

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:16 pm

youtu.be/vYgBIMrnTFk

Please fast forward to 3:50 dipsh*t

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:17 pm

I won't bother waiting for your acknowledgement of being wrong

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:22 pm

That's rich Tormund Giantsbane telling me to calm down. The baddest ass fighter north of the wall!

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 7:23 pm

I like that you said that, we're cool.

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:28 pm

Haha I'm just bored on a Friday my man. Watching swimming is boring as hell, I just want the next season of GoT out already

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 7:32 pm

Haha GOT is much cooler than Michael Phelps

Cole12 ...
08/12/16 2:27 pm

I'm 19, so this is my first presidential election, and I'm excited to be able to vote for Hillary. She's not perfect, but I'm confident that I'm doing the right thing.

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jakeysnakey
08/12/16 3:11 pm

I want you to know she is a killer and a lier and voting for her may not be the best thing.

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 3:20 pm

Three times!

mrken
08/12/16 5:20 pm

It's good that you're young enough to see the repercussion of your decision. I give this current trajectory 10-15 years until complete failure....recession, austerity, riots, collapse

adam2501
08/12/16 5:25 pm

Liar*

TormundGbane new york
08/12/16 5:27 pm

A little dramatic, don't you think?

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:08 pm

I was young and uninformed when I made the mistake of believing the "hope and change" nonsense. Just wait until they stick their leftist hands in your pockets, it stings.

Our right to make our own mistakes is what makes this country great though.

jvl New Orleans
08/12/16 8:50 pm

Good for you Cole. It takes a lot of guts to vote your conscience rather than with the crowd.

As far as the doom and gloom people talking of repercussions. They are motivated by fear and prejudice. They also said that Obama was going to destroy the economy and that unemployment would skyrocket. It's gone from 10% to less than 5%. The medical system was supposed to explode/collapse by 2013. It hasn't. It's gotten better and medical costs are growing at the slowest rates in 20 years.

Keep standing up to the haters.

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/13/16 12:18 am

Obama has been a horrible president. And voting for Hillary would be a huge mistake

dominiclandry
08/12/16 2:15 pm

Please stop asking this so often

veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 2:31 pm

It's a tracking poll.

susanr Colorado
08/12/16 4:22 pm

It's once a week. Better get used to it.

Brandon1995 San Francisco
08/12/16 1:43 pm

I'm not enthusiastic about Hillary, but I will vote for her to keep Trump away from the White house.

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sambaker777 Arizona
08/12/16 1:46 pm

Vote third party then

Brandon1995 San Francisco
08/12/16 1:51 pm

Hell no. I'm not wasting my vote on unelectable candidates. Too much is at stake this election.

Arya8
08/12/16 2:18 pm

It's a wasted vote to vote for someone you don't believe in, too.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
08/12/16 3:59 pm

Clearly not if it keeps Trump from the White House as stated in their original comment...

mrken
08/12/16 1:39 pm

Our country is doomed because ignorant liberals are a majority who choose to fabricate and project racism, rather than argue policy differences and efficacy.

I don't believe Trump is racist.
I do believe Hillary would be a racist if it polled favorably.

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brettshel Bernie Would Have Won
08/12/16 1:43 pm

If you can't see that Trump is a blatant racist, then you're either stupid or racist yourself. Why are so many white supremacist groups backing Trump if his views don't align with their beliefs?

mrken
08/12/16 2:24 pm

Washington Post poll (July 16)

Race Relations?
Good Bad
1992 25% 68% (follow Rodney King)
2006 64% 21%
2016 32% 63%

Is this Trump? No. This is liberal politics, due to liberal policy failure. I know the truth hurts sometimes, but you'll get over it.

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/12/16 2:31 pm

"I don't believe trump is racist"


^ this was your first mistake. The man has said abhorrent things about Mexicans, for one.

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/12/16 2:32 pm

Your "beliefs" are of diminished probative value when weighed against the things that have come out of his mouth.

iBakes California
08/12/16 9:09 pm

"Liberal policy" is a weird code name for publicized race-related police brutality leading to society viewing race relations as poor.

RPossTheBoss Top kek
08/13/16 6:26 am

and dont act all shocked like it is obvious, give me an example

jvl New Orleans
08/13/16 8:34 am

Race Relations?
Good Bad
1860 100% 0% (pre civil war)

mrken
08/13/16 8:54 am

La Raza, Black Lives Matter...these are racists, more importantly these are liberals!

mrken
08/13/16 8:57 am

And if your only response is...KKK, these are conservatives...

Wrong! they are old liberal democrats

jvl New Orleans
08/13/16 11:21 am

The Tea Party, American Conservative Union, Citizens United, Eagle Forum, and John Birch Society, these are racist conservative organizations as well.

iBakes California
08/13/16 12:10 pm

mrken needs to take classes in both history and statistics. Yikes.

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/14/16 12:23 am

I think he's a troll, and sadly, not a very good one.

Arya8
08/12/16 1:13 pm

Gary Johnson, but I chose Hillary for this poll, because a lying criminal-act committing person with political experience is a better choice than a raging racist, narcissistic, fascist with the temper of a toddler and zero relevant experience. What a sad time we live in.

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Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 1:16 pm

Trumps not racist

Arya8
08/12/16 1:29 pm

He's both racist and sexist. He can claim he isn't all he wants, but the things he has said make it clear he is. He's a ticking time bomb and has less self control than the average toddler.

1samsweeney Make America Great Again
08/12/16 1:34 pm

He's dated a black women before. Not racist. He's employed thousands of blacks before. Not racist. He has sued a country club for only being open to whites, then bought it and opened it up to all races. Not racist.

Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 1:34 pm

Aaaahhhh no... He pays women equally unlike Hillary who pays the women working for her 30% less than what men make. Also at least Donald trump doesn't call his Latino voters taco bowl and he actually values them, unlike Hillary who has said "the average democrat voter is just plain stupid and is easy to manipulate." Tell me who the racist sexist one is now.

Gilgamesh muh wage gap
08/12/16 1:37 pm

Plus you're say trump is a ticking time bomb. Look at Hillary the women who is mentally ill, has micro seizures all the time, hit one her secret service men in the head with a bible.

Arya8
08/12/16 1:39 pm

Dating people of another race doesn't make you automatically by racist, nor does employing them. And black is not the only minority race.

It is painfully obvious that he's also sexist. I guess men who have dated women before also can't be sexist by your logic? Bahaha.

Regardless of all that, he has no experience and is a raving lunatic and isn't even a real republican, for that matter. He has also mocked those he claims to represent in the last, too.

They're both crooked. Not sure if you saw, but I'm hardly a Hillary fan. If I had no other options, I would vote for her and shed a tear as I did. As it stands, I'll stick with my third party candidate, thanks.

Arya8
08/12/16 1:39 pm

Automatically not racist* I meant

Arya8
08/12/16 1:45 pm

But Trump is also mentally ill. He's a raging narcissist. Possibly a sociopath. No, he doesn't have seizures. Hell, it may be a relief if he did... Then maybe we would have a reason for the insane shit he says so often. πŸ˜‚

Honestly, you can calm down. I'm not voting for either of them. I haven't voted for a democrat for president in my life and haven't voted for a republican since 2004. I was more aligned with the Libertarian party long before this crazy election cycle, and will continue to be after it passes. I have the right to my beliefs. Neither of us will convince the other to change our minds.

veritas1 Panda
08/12/16 2:12 pm

"Laziness is a trait in blacks."
-DJT

He refused to rent apartments to black people in Trump tower. He's a racist.

Arya8
08/12/16 2:17 pm

Oh he didn't mean that. πŸ˜‚

uncookedbeef shepherdsville
08/12/16 2:43 pm

at least I agree with her about the left being stupid and easy.

1samsweeney Make America Great Again
08/12/16 5:45 pm

I didn't realize that facts are racist. My bad.

1samsweeney Make America Great Again
08/12/16 5:46 pm

And Ayra, are you trying to tell me that a racist would date a black person??

Arya8
08/12/16 7:06 pm

Generalizing an entire race based on a negative characteristic is racist.

I am mostly saying it is not enough information to conclude someone as not racist. I knew someone who was extremely racist but loved their biracial grandkids. Racism is all kinds of illogical sometimes. But my biggest point was that there are more races than just black people...

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:37 pm

Words are wind, you should like that quote from GoT

Actions speak louder than words, as the previous comment stares, he has opened a restricted country club to minorities, dated an African American woman and has employed thousands of African Americans and Mexican Americans

Hillary's husband passed the crime bill in the mid 90s that is responsible for incarcerating so many minorities... who is racist?

Truconservative Jesus is conservative
08/13/16 12:21 am

Sam is right. Trump is not racist or sexist.

Arya8
08/13/16 4:00 am

Ah yes, but words are also important, especially as a leader.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 4:18 am

Kinda like when Hillary spoke the words along the lines of " I believe marriage is between a man and a woman"?

She says what polls tell her to say, just like a good little politician.

I'm also a libertarian but I appreciate the bs free speech of Trump. Do I wish he were someone else sometimes? Yes of course but Hillary is corrupt and straight up evil

Arya8
08/13/16 5:26 am

Trump has flip flopped as many times as she has though. He contradicts himself almost as good as a real politician. I still think he's worse. Don't get it twisted, I have like -2 respect for her and -4 for him. It's like saying I think that vomit would taste better than shit.

Arya8
08/13/16 5:26 am

Almost as well*

Too early for Saturday.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 5:40 am

As a business man you have to play to the crowd, especially in New York. Look at interviews for the 88 at the Republican convention....

Not sure why I am defending Trump, i guess I dislike Hillary THAT much

Arya8
08/13/16 5:44 am

So it's okay for a businessman to play the crowd, but not a politician? That makes no sense. Either way, it's dishonest pandering.

mr300zhb
08/13/16 5:49 am

When his business is at stake, yes of course. Developing real estate is very much at the will of the government, it isn't good business to shake the tree when you are trying to get development approvals for larger scale commercial projects.

Politicians are awful dishonest a-holes who only seem to worry about keeping themselves in office. Trump has taken the muzzle off and I greatly appreciate the brutal and sometimes ridiculous honesty. Granted, he needs to temper it a bit but at least he isn't pandering

Arya8
08/13/16 6:17 am

See, I think he is still pandering. He's pandering to people's fears about different races, religions, sexualities, etc. He's pandering to their ignorance and their prejudices. I'm not defending Hillary in the least. But you won't convince me that he's any better than her. I'm beyond thankful to not live in a swing state and to be able to vote my conscience without worrying it will alter the way my state goes.

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/13/16 12:45 pm

Oh lord. Hillary is bad because she bonked some guy over the head with a bible but Trump isn't racist because he dated a black woman. What's wrong with this picture?

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mr300zhb
08/13/16 12:58 pm

Wtf are you talking about niner

nolivesmatter
08/12/16 1:20 pm

I kinda wish she would drop out. She's holding Gary Johnson back from getting 15%.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
08/12/16 1:37 pm

I Kinda wish Hillary would drop out. She's keeping Stein from getting the 15%

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/12/16 1:01 pm

SoH = where the Fox News crowd hangs out. I'll re-visit this poll after Election Day :)

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/12/16 1:02 pm

Remember the last election? Same thing.

jwilliam13
08/12/16 3:05 pm

60% of Independents say Hillary, yet Trump is winning with 57% of the vote. Just goes on to show that this app is full of Republicans.

mr300zhb
08/12/16 7:42 pm

Kinda like your dem peeps and the country right Stilletto? An infestation that is

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/16/16 9:02 pm

Your trolling skills are weak. Work on it :)

mr300zhb
08/17/16 3:08 am

Wow you are ugly, nice profile pic

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/17/16 4:26 am

You're going to have to try A LOT harder, junior :) LOL!!