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Praetorianus August 12th, 2016 5:37am

We are currently witnessing the second wave of automation. The first happened in the 1980s when industrial robots replaced some repetitive industrial jobs. The current trend has a bigger scope. Is automation ultimately a...

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nickcarrion98 NY to FL to NY
08/12/16 8:33 pm

We've been making progress for longer than any of us have been alive. The difference is that throughout the years, the ways of progress change. From sacks on camels, to wheels, to ships, and eventually where we are today. This poll is an incredible form of question bias. We are not in the second wave of automation, we are somewhere in the thousands (if not more) in the wave of progress.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
08/12/16 6:39 pm

It's good for me, I make big $ selling automation.

08/12/16 8:39 am

Anyone who thinks innovation and invention is a bad thing needs too consider suicide

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
08/12/16 6:12 am

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rons Thanks America
08/12/16 5:00 am

They will automate the Pokémon hunters now!

Liberty 4,032,064
08/12/16 4:35 am

It's a great thing that will results in increased production efficiency and thereby lower prices and higher profits.

SupremeDolphin They.them
08/12/16 3:00 am

Very terrible. All automation and technological advancement comes at the expense of nature, with the nuanced exception of green energy, because it is just slightly better than the incredibly dirty oil and gas and coal.

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 4:34 am

All of it does? There's a lot of automation that reduces the use of materials and the like. I think your problem is with industrialization in general.

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 5:03 am

Is Wall-E so far away? Have you selected your lounge chair yet?

SupremeDolphin They.them
08/12/16 5:39 am

Yes, I do think industrialization is inherently bad for the environment, so we should end it.

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 6:01 am

Stop making cell phones, batteries are the worst things ever!

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 6:05 am

That's actually pretty true rons. I've been using a cracked up phone for a year now because I don't want a new phone until I've had this one for a couple more years.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/12/16 7:35 am

What are Luddites doing using a smartphone, tablet or PC to access this app?
Shouldn't they be in a cave gnawing on a large bone and drinking fermented berry juice from a scullcap? 💀

SupremeDolphin They.them
08/12/16 7:57 am

For me, it's an issue of community.

SupremeDolphin They.them
08/12/16 8:00 am

Like I would rather live in an automated community than alone in nature, because we're social beings.

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 9:36 am

Prae, talking actually about batteries are so prevalent they are one of our worst polluters.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/12/16 10:30 am

@rons: I've had a Schwinn bicycle headlight for a while that was solar powered. Charge in sunlight by day and go for hours at night.
Couldn't cellphones be solar powered?

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 10:44 am

IDK. They do have solar chargers. What do you do with a cell phone run on solar at night? But it's not only that. Batteries are in everything. My home radio has battery back up. Flashlights, toys, tool, computers, and a million other battery drive items. The batteries end up in the landfill.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/12/16 11:13 am

The energy can be stored in a capacitator:

However, a "battery" isn't all bad as long as it's permanent and lasts as long as the device. Only exchangeable, non rechargeable batteries are bad.

SupremeDolphin They.them
08/12/16 1:08 pm

I have a solar phone charger, but it hasn't seemed to work for me.

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 1:10 pm

Twenty years from now, we won't have to charge our phones but once a week. Nanotechnology is going to make sure every drop of energy gets used and nothing gets wasted between charges. By then, they will be too priceless to throw away and will probably have cash incentives to recycle them.

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 1:58 pm

That must be a pretty big capacitor!

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 1:59 pm

No, nanotechnology is very small.

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 2:42 pm

Doesn't exist for capacitors yet. You have to reserve 5 watts of power in the 100 milliamp range for hours. Do you know of any battery less phones?

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 2:51 pm

I'm just paraphrasing what I heard in a business class from a guy who was co-owner of a battery company. He was undertaking a plan to make batteries to replace generators for the military and hospitals.

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 2:51 pm

I certainly don't know as much as you about batteries.

rons Thanks America
08/12/16 2:59 pm

I know just enough to get by.

LeftLibertarian The Age of Outrage
08/12/16 1:00 am

Good, there are some worrying trends relevant to automation but I do think there's an alternative that would be able to harness it more effectively, I agree in many ways with this video

Diogenes Not Biden It
08/12/16 12:30 am

As human labor becomes obsolete, they'll be unable to earn a living and/or forced to perform manual labor to support their replacements. This change will drastically alter individual confidence and increases in depression will become commonplace. As transportation robots have their routes electronically curtailed via GPS, restricted movement without permission should contribute to human suffering over time.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/12/16 12:39 am

Like, avoiding 40,000 traffic fatalities annually by letting a bot drive?
A small price.

Diogenes Not Biden It
08/12/16 12:48 am

You can do better than micro-thought.

08/12/16 12:28 am

Bad jobs being eliminated = good thing.

GingerFascist Ireland
08/11/16 10:52 pm

Ultimately is will replace human labor making humans, realistically useless. You can program a robot to do anything and in the long run its cheaper then paying a worker every week. Or when ever you get payed. Unless strict regulations are out and enforced in the robotic industry then humans will basically be null and void.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/11/16 11:06 pm

It will free humans from doing repetitive work.
It will free them from the near slavery of a job.
It will lead to a society where you can freely be with family or pursue hobbies.
If you need work to feel satisfied, that's a sorry thing.

GingerFascist Ireland
08/11/16 11:10 pm

You've just made my point for me. Robots will control everything, if they get smart enough they will just see us as lazy slave masters. In this world lets me honest humans won't do much, we are too simple minded for that. We will just sit back, watch tv, eat food and wait for robots to realize how f-ed up all of this really is.

TheCameron UCF
08/11/16 11:30 pm

Ginger, there are these things called off buttons/switches that we can push if it ever comes to that.

GingerFascist Ireland
08/11/16 11:32 pm

Lol. Fair enough.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/11/16 11:34 pm

Robots didn't design us, we designed them.
We can decide how much control we give them.

GingerFascist Ireland
08/11/16 11:37 pm

We can but then again we are obviously not the greatest at designing stuff, there are always flaws. I'm just saying I really don't want a robot world.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/11/16 10:40 pm

Near unstoppable and ultimately good in the long run.
Productivity is the same at higher efficiency at a lower cost.
This will eventually free everyone from boring jobs and leave enough surplus for a basic minimum income.