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Ebola1 Florida
08/16/16 12:32 pm

It would be laughable to assume he is smart enough to found ISIS. But no one can deny that he has allowed them to flourish under his watch.

MrMilkdud
08/12/16 9:29 am

ISIS would say that Muhammed is their founder.

getupbaby South City
08/12/16 2:34 am

You spelled Reagan wrong.

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lorraineruth Bozeman
08/12/16 12:15 am

I guess Obama has a time travel device that he used to fund it in 2006. Sounds legit.

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MyRedSkirt Cali
08/11/16 10:58 pm

Did Obama intend for it to be formed? No.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 11:30 pm

Exactly! Because they became an organized body in 2004.

skinner Jersey City
08/11/16 7:51 pm

I have been very critical of President Obama's feckless policies in the Near East, but to say that Obama is somehow complicit with Daesh would be absurd if it weren't such a dangerous lie. The suggestion that our commander-in-chief is a fifth column for a terror organization is wrong and beneath the dignity of anyone who would seek the office of President of the United States.

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 9:17 pm

Let know when you're running for president because I will vote for you.

skinner Jersey City
08/12/16 6:17 am

Haha! Thanks RJ, I'm glad to have one vote!

Suzan Hawaii
08/11/16 7:09 pm

He sure help fund it

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suppressedID destiny is right now
08/11/16 7:23 pm

You're thinking of W.

trollthepoll Pro Choice
08/12/16 11:06 pm

And let's not forget the Iran contra scandal

Ebola1 Florida
08/16/16 12:36 pm

Iran is Shia. ISIS is Sunni. They hate each other.

LongMaySheRain on your parade
08/11/16 6:47 pm

He's short-circuiting now. 😣

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Allsports my world
08/11/16 5:45 pm

Lies, fuck trumpπŸ’©πŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ–•πŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ’©πŸ–•πŸΎ

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/11/16 4:38 pm

Because Obama started the nonsense in Iraq and Afghanistan before even running for the presidency? I always thought it was Cheney pulling GW's strings. Huh. Turns out Obama was the puppetmaster. Who knew?

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corino Utah
08/11/16 6:53 pm

Obama didn't start it but he did bring all the troops home before a strong anti-terrorist government was ready to take over.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 9:29 pm

So, recap

HW (dad) the former CIA director turned president has the common sense not to invade and overthrow Baghdad after Desert Storm. Junior want to show him up and invades using 9-11 as a pretense. WMDs...free the Iraqis. Yeah, okay. The rest is history, 4,000+ Americans and more private contractors dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians dead, and trillions wasted.

W signs a withdrawal agreement. The draw down covers several years. Obama does not override the agreement when it's enacted in his term.

And.....its Obama's fault.

corino Utah
08/11/16 10:04 pm

Couldn't have put it better.

TeenRepublican North Carolina
08/11/16 3:49 pm

Like I have said before... STOP BLAMING OBAMA FOR EVERYTHING!!! We don't all agree with Obama but jeez.. this I'd over the top. Have some respect for our head executive and commander-in-chief!

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shadyblue775
08/11/16 3:41 pm

Obama put this country in shambles with Isis , black lives matter and Obama Care., oh and the $400 million pay off..

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 3:42 pm

Oh geeez

suppressedID destiny is right now
08/11/16 7:24 pm

Hey! Ann Coulter joined SOH!

SupremeDolphin They.them
08/11/16 3:05 pm

I mean, he's not the head of ISIS. But I wouldn't be surprised if he had ties to the group for geopolitical reasons.

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Brandon2018 Stocks Are Overvalued
08/11/16 2:19 pm

No. Trump really needs to shut the fuck up.

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Brandon2018 Stocks Are Overvalued
08/11/16 2:20 pm

He's self destructing. Time for a revolution.

susanr Colorado
08/11/16 2:00 pm

Not even laughable. Just disgusting. And not remotely true. And Trump is a giant flaming asshole.

ISIS has some recent roots, and some older roots, none of which are Obama. Or Clinton for that matter.

abcnews.go.com/International/obama-founder-isis-guys/story?id=41299897

www.vox.com/2016/8/11/12438744/obama-founded-isis-trump

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cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 2:14 pm

Wrong link, sorry. I'm no Trump fan but he's right about this. Barry admitted it.
youtu.be/RNha3nabZeI

susanr Colorado
08/11/16 2:19 pm

No, he didn't. That was clearly a slip of the tongue, and the error was corrected in a transcript of the video. And even *if* he really meant it (which would have been totally idiotic), he didn't say that he *created* the group, he only referred to "speeding up training of forces."

conservativepost.com/were-training-isil-white-house-website-corrects-obamas-speech-blooper/

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 2:21 pm

Ha! You're so funny. YOU DIDN'T HEAR BARRY ADMITTING TO TRAINING ISIL!!!!!!
LALALALALALALA!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
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susanr Colorado
08/11/16 2:33 pm

Consider that his statement would be utterly outrageous, indefensible, stupid, nonsensical, if it was correct. There would have been major consequences.

Surprise: There weren't.

You really don't understand slips of the tongue?

You've never said anything wrong by mistake? I believe you've *typed* a few things wrong in the last 24 hours, and gone back to fix them. How is that any different? What if we held *you* to those statements? There was a real doozy a few days ago; one about mental disorders, if I recall correctly. Nobody held your feet to *that* fire. We all just smiled and moved on.

Have the grace to do that here, OK? Otherwise you just look like a big boob.

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 2:36 pm

You got me rolling, Susan! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Thanks! The fact that you sit there and say I didn't see and hear what I seen and heard takes monumental arrogance. Oh it must be rough telling people what they didn't see and hear all day... πŸ˜‚

susanr Colorado
08/11/16 2:50 pm

Where exactly did I say you didn't hear it? Please show me.

susanr Colorado
08/11/16 2:50 pm

Reading comprehension. It's a very good thing.

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 3:03 pm

"No, he didn't."
LOL! YOU DIDN'T HEAR BARRY ADMIT IT!!! LALALALALALALA!! Ha! Oh. That's funny. You're funny.

susanr Colorado
08/11/16 3:11 pm

Read the poll question again.

Read what you claimed again.

Read what I replied to you again.

Put 1 + 1 + 1 together again and try to come up with something besides purple.

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 3:15 pm

LOL! πŸ˜‚ Watch the video again where Barry admits to training his army...

ishady 86451132020
08/11/16 3:30 pm

Turns out cowboy is actually trump. He is currently sticking his fingers in his ears and saying" la la la la la la, i know you are but what am i".

susanr Colorado
08/11/16 3:35 pm

He said (by a slip of the tongue) something about "training" ISIL soldiers. (Which makes no sense in the context of what the US was doing.)

He did *not* say that he *founded* the group, which was the clear implication of your original claim.

Enough already.

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 3:36 pm

Um... No. That would be Susan doing that. LOL. You girls are too funny! πŸ˜‚

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 3:37 pm

Yeah enough... Just admit you were wrong and it'll be all good.

Irrilogical New Jersey
08/11/16 9:21 pm

Susanr you're basically my favorite user especially after this please keep this up :)

cowboy Proud Father
08/12/16 6:02 am

LOL! Ignorance breeds ignorance.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
08/11/16 1:53 pm

Proof that you can say anything....no matter how ridiculous....and as long as it comes from 'your' party.....there are dipshits that will believe it. Works both ways. It's painful to see.

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cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 1:49 pm

Duh. We've known that for awhile. Barry Soetoro even admitted it.
youtu.be/RNha3nabZeI

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JackTorS Mostly peaceful polling
08/11/16 2:12 pm

Hmm. That's what it sounded like to me.

mpurple oh no. trump won.
08/11/16 1:45 pm

Trump is a clown. I take nothing he says seriously.

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cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 2:16 pm

Do you take what Barry says seriously?
youtu.be/RNha3nabZeI

mpurple oh no. trump won.
08/11/16 2:48 pm

Put me on ignore.

cowboy Proud Father
08/11/16 2:49 pm

You didn't answer my question.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 4:57 pm

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croopertrooper Greater Cincinnati Area
08/11/16 1:43 pm

The best part is that he doubled down on his comments, saying that he didn't mean the pullout led to the vacuum that created ISIS, but that Obama actually founded ISIS

www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/donald-trump-hugh-hewitt-obama-founder-isis/index.html?sr=fbpol081116donald-trump-hugh-hewitt-obama-founder-isis0332PMVODtopLink&linkId=27559262

" "I think I would say they created, they lost the peace. They created the Libyan vacuum, they created the vacuum into which ISIS came, but they didn't create ISIS. That's what I would say," Hewitt said.

"Well, I disagree," Trump replied, and Hewitt moved on. "

They're trying to give him outs, and he just won't take them.

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Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 1:38 pm

It was his pullout decision that led directly to Isis. His dad should have pulled out. πŸ˜€

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Axl752 Ontario
08/11/16 1:43 pm

If you want to use that angle then you can't blame the pullout. You have to blame the person responsible for putting us there in the first place. Good ol' GW.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 1:45 pm

Not true. A pullout was a different decision made by a different person. Obama is responsible for his own decisions. I agree that bush was wrong for the war in the first instance, but Obama did in fact govern.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 1:47 pm

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:48 pm

W signed the US-Iraq Status Forces Agreement in 2008 that included the time table for withdraw. Obama had nothing to do with it other than be president when it went into effect.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:49 pm

HW knew not to go into Baghdad after Desert Storm for this very reason. Like Powell said, you break it you buy it. We broke it.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:50 pm

And, no, it is not our job to be their policemen on our fine and our blood.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:50 pm

* dime

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 1:52 pm

Obama could have extended the deadline had he wanted. Do we not remember bush saying that it was a mistake to pullout and Obama defending the decision. Original timeframes in war are just estimates. The commander in chief can change them.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:55 pm

Sure, but an agreement with a sovereign nation would have been broken. They told us to leave. We had 2 choices, stay at further cost or leave and let the inevitable happen.

W broke it. That's what started it.

Incidentally, ISIS was founded in 2004.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 1:56 pm

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:58 pm

Are you denying the historical record that ISIS had its founding years before Obama even thought about running?

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 1:58 pm

No. Pulling out was obama's decision. He could easily have stayed.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:59 pm

BTW, giving weapons to fight Assad was a major strategic move that has better protected Israel. Here from Hezbollah lately?

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 2:00 pm

Yes, Obama could have over-ridden Ws agreement...and left American soldiers and tax payers to deal with it indefinitely. That's your solution?

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 2:01 pm

And again...ISIS was founded in 2004. How is this Obama's doing?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 2:04 pm

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Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 2:05 pm

Founding is a distinction with little meaning, in this case. They didn't become anything noteworthy until after the pullout.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 2:06 pm

.....you know, when all the Americans were gone and so they were free to run wild and do what they do.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 2:12 pm

Clearly Obama was wrong in his judgment. He touted how stable Iraq was and how they're on the right path and how it was time for the us to withdraw.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 2:26 pm

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RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 2:51 pm

Well what's a bigger deal, ISISs navy or their air force?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 2:54 pm

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Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 3:10 pm

Navy or Air Force? Hummm. Which units are the ones responsible for destroying 1000 year old historical sites, running stolen oil, and beheading groups of Christians? That's the one that's the bigger deal.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 3:18 pm

Of course. But those types of things aren't new. Other groups have done it before them. As evil as they are, they are the JV team. As soon as Assad is out, they will be cleaned up. Until then, they're going to continue in their civil war.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/11/16 3:27 pm

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Okie1967 Lets go brandon
08/11/16 3:28 pm

Aaaaaand there goes nema on ignore for calling RJ a douchebag. Only I get to call him names like that. πŸ˜€

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 3:34 pm

Assad isn't out.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 3:35 pm

That's why the ruskies went in to help.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 3:36 pm

Please share your special intel nemo.

Luftwaffe South of Heaven
08/11/16 1:38 pm

I'd say partly responsible for the founding yes.

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Luftwaffe South of Heaven
08/11/16 1:43 pm

Just like how the creation of the Taliban is partly responsible on George Bush as well. They funded rebels that got out of hand. Also, I remember Obama once stated they were speeding up the training of Isis forces.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 1:50 pm

The Taliban go back to Reagan.

Luftwaffe South of Heaven
08/11/16 2:01 pm

I thought it was George H Bush who started funding them first.

Luftwaffe South of Heaven
08/11/16 5:06 pm

Upon further research I was correct, the Obama administration via the CIA funded the free Syrian army, which later many members of that group helped spread Isis. So yes, Obama's foreign policy regarding terrorism is just as bad as both Regan's, and both Bushs. I'd place them all as major players in the founding of radical Islamic terrorist groups that we deal with today. Also, our "allies" Saudi Arabia and Isreal had a part in helping the formation of Isis as well. So in a way Trump is kinda correct.

Luftwaffe South of Heaven
08/11/16 5:07 pm

To be honest this bullshit started with Carter's foreign policy administrators when we wanted to topple the Soviet Union so bad.

RJ1969 SoCal
08/11/16 9:36 pm

Ok, you're both right and not right.

Dude, duh. The US is shipping mass quantities of arms into Syria, often through Iraq. Surprise.

How did you not know this?

Luftwaffe South of Heaven
08/12/16 3:41 am

I did know this, and that's why I stated it above. We fund rebels that go awol.

cowboy Proud Father
08/12/16 6:10 am

Yeah... It's been known for awhile which is why Rand Paul grilled Hillary about the Soetoro administration running guns to their ISIL troops.