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Squidboy August 10th, 2016 5:09am

Under new Oregon law, all eligible voters are automatically registered to vote unless they opt out.

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nicnerd
08/11/16 4:16 pm

Why do we have to register at all? If you are eligible, you should vote. Registration is just needless bureaucracy.

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TopsQueen Oregon Coast
08/11/16 7:30 am

That's a very bad idea. People that don't care enough to actually get out and registered to vote don't deserve the right.

CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
08/10/16 12:13 pm

Why do we have voter registration? Why is registration not the same thing as eligibility? Not rhetorical, I really don't know

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bringstheeagle Colorado
08/10/16 11:50 am

Great - should be a national law.

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bringstheeagle Colorado
08/10/16 11:52 am

How about everyone registered fro any federal program is automatically registered - passport, all federal ID cards etc.

jvberg Winter has Come
08/10/16 12:46 pm

Because of the epidemic of voter fraud!!! *heavy sarcasm*

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/10/16 9:45 am

So the diabolical scheme is that someone is going to figure out ahead of time who isn't going to vote... Then they are going to make thousands of fake ID's??? Not realistic at all.

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WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/10/16 9:52 am

Oops... This was supposed to be a reply.

alval California
08/10/16 9:24 am

More people will opt out of something they don't want than people opting into something they do want. So, if as a state/nation we wants people to vote, this is the way to do it. The reason some state have a greater organ donator rate is they have an opt out when getting a state license, people not wanting to donate fail to check the box opting out.

Krystina Live and Let Live
08/10/16 7:08 am

I'm in line with @TomM and @Political on this one. Prefer to be asked.

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political Georgia
08/10/16 6:09 am

I prefer the way Georgia does it. When you receive your driver's license, they ask if you would like to register to vote. I said yes, and I am able to vote. It's not that hard at all.

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jvberg Winter has Come
08/10/16 8:12 am

Do you have to renew your licence at 18?

jvberg Winter has Come
08/10/16 10:08 am

Just curious. I didn't have to renew mine until I was 21 after I got it when I was 16

GrandmaALiCE
08/10/16 1:06 pm

What about people who don't drive?

political Georgia
08/10/16 1:37 pm

There is a way for them to register to vote of course. I just don't know the law.

jvberg Winter has Come
08/10/16 6:07 am

Should be a national policy

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CMD1973 Oxford iowa
08/10/16 4:15 am

Should be used all across the country. Oregon voter turnout was over 80% in the 2012 election the turnout of the country as a whole was only 68%.

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 6:42 am

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yarrl
08/10/16 7:21 am

?
It's by secret ballot so we don't know how many of your corpses voted Republican either.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 7:27 am

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
08/10/16 7:31 am

I think corpses are non-partisan. Regardless, Oregon has had zero cases of voter fraud (alleged or otherwise) since instituting motor-voter dmv registration years ago.

yarrl
08/10/16 7:34 am

You say "currently" so you are saying that in the past Republican corpses have voted.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 7:35 am

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 7:35 am

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yarrl
08/10/16 7:55 am

Oregon votes by mail.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 7:57 am

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 8:09 am

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WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/10/16 9:41 am

Nemacyst has a severe aversion to evidence.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/10/16 9:47 am

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TomM
08/10/16 12:16 am

I think it would be better if they asked if you want to be a voter just like they ask if you want to be an organ donor. I don't like when the government (or private companies) just assume you opt in unless you actively opt out.

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CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
08/10/16 12:14 pm

Isn't not voting the same thing as opting out?

TomM
08/10/16 12:26 pm

Opting out of voting is not the same as opting out as being registered by the government as a voter, although I do admit it's relatively close. As a principle I don't think the government should register people in any way unless they individually opt in.

CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
08/10/16 12:31 pm

Sorry, I worded that wrong. What I meant to say was why should there be a difference? If you're eligible to vote, why is there an extra step of registration?

I'm totally against forcing people to vote, but I don't understand why there's this extra hoop to jump through. I don't understand its purpose

TomM
08/10/16 12:46 pm

I gotcha. If you didn't have to register, how would you manage people at the voting place? You would have to check somehow people are eligible to vote, check the age, residency status, not a felon etc. It would be administratively complex and slow.

CoffeeNow Fiery but peaceful rioter
08/10/16 3:21 pm

Ok, felony and residency status make sense. I wonder if it would be easier to register everyone when they become a citizen, and then remove from that list as needed (i.e. When they commit a felony, expatriate, etc), instead of running essentially a new background check every election cycle

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/09/16 11:05 pm

I think it is good, so long as sharing the information or making it public still defaults to opt out. I'd hate to start getting political mailings or phone calls because it resulted in politicians or their parties learning of my status as a registered voter without my explicit consent (which I'd never give).

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pdxchory Portland
08/09/16 11:11 pm

The only organizations who knows are the DMV and the Secy. of State's Office.

pdxchory Portland
08/09/16 11:12 pm

Unless you register with a party.

iBakes California
08/10/16 7:37 am

When automatically registered you aren't registered with a party. Check the link below.

People who choose to opt out of the process, even if they don't complete the opting out of voting paperwork, aren't affiliated with a party/wouldn't be targeted by campaigns anymore than they would be now in random sampling survey research.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/10/16 8:39 am

I knew you wouldn't be automatically registered for a party, and in my state the party issue would be moot since we don't register for parties anyway. It does seem though that politicians have access to voter lists here, since the scoundrels in both parties seem to target voters by name and not just addresses with their infernal junkmail. It's part of the curse of being a registered voter here, but I wouldn't want that to happen automatically (assuming I wasn't already burdened with it) if my state went to opt-out motor voter instead of the easy opt-in that we have had for years. We require proof of state residence, but as far as I know proof of citizenship is not required to get a license here (but is to register to vote), so that might add another opportunity for bureaucratic error with opt-out.

gow488 Wisconsin
08/09/16 10:40 pm

Making it easier to vote is a good thing.

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iBakes California
08/09/16 10:19 pm

I don't know why this isn't the process in every state. Every eligible voter should be automatically registered to smooth out the process and make voting more simplified.

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lolilover
08/09/16 10:13 pm

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lolilover
08/09/16 10:13 pm

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Wino I need a drink
08/09/16 10:17 pm

How? People are automatically registered when they get their state issued ID (license or ID card).

lolilover
08/09/16 10:18 pm

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iBakes California
08/09/16 10:20 pm

"A qualifying interaction is when an eligible unregistered voter (over 17 years old, an Oregon resident, and a US citizen) visits the DMV to apply for, renew, or replace an Oregon drivers’ license, ID card, or permit"

lolilover
08/09/16 10:29 pm

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iBakes California
08/09/16 10:40 pm

Voter fraud is incredibly rare. This is a nonissue.

pdxchory Portland
08/09/16 11:13 pm

For some people, facts simply do not matter. :(

lolilover
08/10/16 12:00 am

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
08/10/16 7:29 am

Fwiw: since instituting the 'motor voter' dmv registration years ago, there have been zero cases of voter fraud in Oregon. All voting in Oregon is done through mail and each ballot must be signed. The signature is verified by election workers against a signature on file. Not sure how this would work under the new system.

alval California
08/10/16 9:27 am

iBakes, great job on sourcing facts!