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skinner August 9th, 2016 8:14pm

Trump: "If she [Clinton] gets to pick her judges ― nothing you can do, folks. Although: the Second Amendment, people, maybe there is. I don’t know.” Is this a dangerous threat or an innocuous joke by Trump towards the Democratic nominee?

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
08/13/16 5:05 am

His defenders will say it is innocuous, but it's not. It is ambiguous speech that allows people to imply meaning into it. Strong leaders don't use language like this. While most common sense Americans will roll their eyes and ignore this little fracas.....there will often be a few deranged individuals who use it as a reason to take action or incite violence. A good leader wouldn't do that and let's be honest here.....if Hillary said the same thing....the outrage...real or contrived....would be flipped.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/10/16 3:01 pm

People thinking Clinton assassinated that DNC is conspiracy theory nonsense. This is something we have video of. Watching his face and the faces of the crowd, along with the fact that in his scenario Clinton already won the election, it is easy to come to the conclusion that he was insinuating violence. At the very least it is debatable.

MrMilkdud Pref pronouns Thou Thee
08/10/16 3:52 pm

It's not that hard. The conspiracy theorizing here comes in twisting this to mean he was calling for an assassination.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/10/16 7:21 pm

Not a stretch at all. Nobody thinks it's some diabolical plan. We think he's dumb and doesn't think before he opens his mouth. He gives us a new example every day.

MrMilkdud Pref pronouns Thou Thee
08/10/16 8:00 pm

I agree that he's dumb and doesn't think before he speaks, but you have to work pretty hard to assume he's talking about assassination here.
Btw, I'm not a trump supporter.

Krystina Live and Let Live
08/10/16 7:46 am

I don't think it was a threat or joke. If you were to say the same thing about "First Amendment People" or "Pro-Choice People," it would be taken to mean supporters of that cause coming together do something politically. Just because the right in question is the right to bear arms does not, or at least should not, change that...unless you're a media outlet looking for sensational headlines anyway. Then you sell it as though it was a call for assassination.

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thatguy2 I am Antifa
08/10/16 9:21 am

The mental gymnastics people are doing to give Trump a pass are fascinating to watch.

Krystina Live and Let Live
08/10/16 9:37 am

The mental gymnastics people are doing to make something out of nothing are fascinating to watch.

jlong105 Indiana
08/10/16 6:16 am

Thank you liberals for giving trump more free face time. Keep twisting his words to keep him on the front pages for free.

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jab004
08/10/16 5:34 am

2nd amendment supporters are not voting for Hillary. He's not telling the NRA supporters to vote against her, they already all are voting for Trump. It was a thinly veiled threat, or call to arms.

There is no other way to interpret this, at least intelligently.

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thatguy2 I am Antifa
08/09/16 8:52 pm

As usual, liberals are just trying to twist Trump's words around to make him look bad. Assassination? Don't be ridiculous. All he wants is a non-controversial election outcome and knows that the best way to avoid a hanging chad situation is to shoot your ballot to make your selection. This is, in fact, the most American way to to vote, but I guess liberals wouldn't understand that.

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WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/10/16 9:17 am

What does ANY of this have to do with hanging chads or a controversial election outcome?

Axl752 NY
08/09/16 8:19 pm

I dont know what to think. The media tends to take things out of context and twist it how they please. I didn't hear or read the original transcript so I don't know. This is coming from an anti-trump leftist/communist btw.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/09/16 6:42 pm

Trump either continuously says awful and dangerous things, or he is a moron with an extremely poor grasp of the English language and his surrogates have to tell us what he *really* meant on a daily basis. Which one is it?

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spicysteve M14D SBS
08/09/16 5:42 pm

Don't know if he's joking, making a legit threat, or if he doesn't have a grasp on third grade level English.

Most likely, it's some kind if mixture of the three.

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Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/09/16 3:14 pm

This seems like a over reaction, he could be asking second amendment belivers to organize and protest against her. Saying he was implying that she should be assassinated is an over reaction.

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veritas1 Panda
08/09/16 2:51 pm

Well we already know that at least two Trump advisors have previously recommended that Hillary Clinton be executed, so maybe this is something that people should start looking into.

I think it's probably just that Trump is mentally unstable rather than it being a serious threat. There's probably a good chance he doesn't cognitively comprehend what exactly it is he's saying. Either way, we'd be stupid to vote for him.

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Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/09/16 3:25 pm

Has Trump ever voted to bomb sovereign nations into submission? No; that was Hillary Clinton (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya)


Was it Trump's foreign policy that killed women, elderly and children with Predator Drones? No; that was the Neocons, and establishment Democrats (With support of Hillary Clinton) that did that.
(Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia)

Is Trump threatening to further tensions with Iran and destabilize Syria? No, that's agian the works of Hillary Clinton.

Yet you call Trump the dangerous and mentally unstable one here? Listen, I know you get paid to shill here, but you can't be this blind.

veritas1 Panda
08/09/16 3:30 pm

Trump has never voted for anything because he's never made a decision of real consequence in his life. He's never once had to deal with any foreign crisis.

But here's what we know: He supported the war in Iraq. He supported the intervention in Libya. He supports destabilizing Eastern Europe and the Ukraine. He supports giving Saudi Arabia nuclear weapons.

Hillary Clinton is the paragon of stable leadership when compared to the erratic and mentally unstable Donald Trump who has supported every regime change operation he has ever been asked about.

veritas1 Panda
08/09/16 3:32 pm

But you mentioned Syria. Trump wants to create a "free zone for ISIS" in Syria and start yet another ground war in the Middle East.

Just more of the same failed policies of Bush from Trump with the added proposal of creating a free zone for ISIS, whatever the hell that means.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/09/16 3:40 pm

Trump is the CEO of a successful company, he's made tough decisions in his life, and knows the meaning of consequences. Saying otherwise is just false. Speaking of consequences, Hillary's actions had negative ones. She was not successful.

Second, Trump supported the Iraq war in the beginning because of the faulty information the Bush administration fed to the public, but shortly after that interview (About close to year I believe) he knew the false narrative that was getting pushed and opposed it, unlike HRC.

Trump wishes to improve relations with Russia by working together with them in defeating Isis, without throwing over Assad for Globalist intrests. Clinton would rather make Syria more unstable, and further tensions with Iran and Russia.

Wino I need a drink
08/09/16 7:30 pm

"Trump is the CEO of a successful company, he's made tough decisions in his life, and knows the meaning of consequences"πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Stop. My stomach hurts. Ask any successful businessman about Trump. I have and I've listened, Trump and his businesses are jokes.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/09/16 9:01 pm

Maybe I see your business Mr. Armchair Ceo?

Wino I need a drink
08/09/16 9:24 pm

While I'm far from an expert, most financial experts agree that if he had just invested his inheritance in the S&P 500, he would be worth more than he is.
Also, I know people who have done business with him and never will again (both from the business aspect and the loan aspect). He has a horrible reputation among CEOs, CIOs, and CFOs that I know. The only people who say he does things well are CMOs and I can see that point as he has clearly marketed himself to you and others.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/09/16 9:29 pm

I actually respect the guy more because he did something with his life than just invest in stocks. He has employed thousands of people, has over a hundred successful businesses, and can go on any of his luxury golf courses for free across the world. But let me guess, the guy who sat on ass all day and made money in stocks is the person you'd respect?

Your claims don't fit the narrative of a lot of people. He has an overall positive feedback from those he employs, and he also helped New York City build an ice rink in fast time, and under budget.

Wino I need a drink
08/09/16 10:11 pm

Of course the people he employs claim to like him! Do you know how quick he is to sue? I, personally, know two people who he tried to sue (he dropped it as there was no case and the people have always had lawyers on retainer). You can admire him all you want, but he has done some shady unethical things to get where he is. He is far from being someone who should be admired for business. I've heard nothing good from anyone I know who run businesses.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/10/16 3:32 am

Then I guess you don't know anyone honest in business, judging by his former actions in charity, and his projects he's managed to complete in fast and under budget times, along with his positive reviews from his staff, it's safe to assume he's a good business man.

Donaldo just watching
08/09/16 1:57 pm

Hillary Clinton is a bigger threat than the 2n amendment

hellofabird Iceland
08/09/16 1:47 pm

It is a threat to the government, which is what we as the people are supposed to be.

LibArtie SW Connecticut
08/09/16 1:45 pm

Trump has no sense of humor.

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Malekithe Cities on flame
08/09/16 1:40 pm

Let's all over react a little more please. I interpret this as a call for those who support the 2nd amendment to step up and prevent Hilliary from winning by voting against her.
The beginning of the article is already showing the taint of bias by how it is written. Saul Alinsky's disciples at work

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skinner Wisconsin
08/09/16 1:47 pm

That is the interpretation of Trump's comments that his campaign prefers.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/09/16 6:39 pm

In the scenario he presented, Clinton already won the election.

MisterE Conservistan
08/10/16 7:15 am

"If Clinton gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do..."

PutinItUp New Jersey
08/09/16 1:26 pm

Exactly, nonetheless if it was a joke, it has no place to be present from anyone, especially a presidential candidate. If anyone else said that, they'd be questioned by the secret service. And here's another reason why this asshole cannot be president of this nation. Such a childish, immoral idiot.

political Georgia
08/09/16 1:18 pm

I'm sorry. I don't speak Trumpian gibber. You are going to have to translate this into English for me.

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SticksandStones Proud Prude
08/09/16 1:22 pm

He's saying that someone can shoot Clinton.

rons on top of the world MA
08/09/16 1:26 pm

No he's not. His opinion is that if she votes in judges that would repeal the 2A gun owners may cause trouble. That the way I read it.

SticksandStones Proud Prude
08/09/16 1:37 pm

He's saying there is nothing we can do, unless we are "second amendment folks." That means he's saying there is something gun owners can do about Clinton's desire to appoint the judges she wants to appoint.

How does that translate to "Clinton will repeal the second amendment"?

SticksandStones Proud Prude
08/09/16 1:38 pm

I misread what you said. Nonetheless, he's being careful about his wording, but it is clear that it is some sort of threat, or a bad joke.

skinner Wisconsin
08/09/16 1:17 pm

The Republican nominee appears to be indicating, most likely flippantly, that Republican gun owners could prevent Clinton from nominating liberal Justices to the Supreme Court by assassinating President Clinton or her judicial nominees. Perhaps this is a joke, perhaps it's not, but it crosses yet another line that Trump did not need to undergo after a week of scandals.

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SticksandStones Proud Prude
08/09/16 1:23 pm

It's disgusting and childish if it's a joke and it's a psychotic threat (or suggestion) that needs to be taken seriously if it's not.

This man is pathetic.

rons on top of the world MA
08/09/16 1:28 pm

For some silly reason I think there are plenty of democrat gun owners that might have concerns.

skinner Wisconsin
08/09/16 1:41 pm

The Trump campaign has responded to the controversy surrounding his comments in North Carolina today, with Senior Communications Director Jason Miller saying, "It's called the power of unification - 2nd Amendment people have amazing spirit and are tremendously unified, which gives them great political power. And this year, they will be voting in record numbers, and it won't be for Hillary Clinton, it will be for Donald Trump."

Hillary Clinton's campaign has also responded to Trump's remarks, with campaign manager Robby Mook issuing a statement saying, "This is simple—what Trump is saying is dangerous. A person seeking to be the President of the United States should not suggest violence in any way."