Cole12 ...
08/08/16 7:39 pm
I must break with my VHEMT-oriented, anthropocentric antinatalist, misanthropic nature-loving, and primitivist friends for a moment.
All life is suffering. All life - not just human life. Birds, dogs, and bunnies experience pain too, and killing off the human species and/or destroying human civilization is not going to completely fix that problem. The whole "everything would be great if humans stopped fucking up the environment" shtick isn't accurate. Human civilization causes a lot of harm, but an incredible amount of harm is caused by good ol' Mother Nature herself. Those birds, dogs, and bunnies would still have awful lives if humans weren't around - you can bet on that.
If you identify with one of the ideologies/movements at the top of this post, I urge you to watch the following video (yes, watch the whole thing): www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOSXkTy4jUU
susanr Colorado
08/08/16 7:21 pm
I remember when I was taking an ecology class, and learning about not just competition and predator/prey relationships among animals, but about the *chemical* warfare that goes on between *plants* and animals (as well as between animals), I stood looking over a peaceful-appearing meadow thinking, "It's a freaking WAR ZONE out there!"
But there are also many examples of cooperation, kindness, affection and altruism among animals as well (not sure about plants!), just as there are with humans.
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