Show of Hands

Go after these goddamned litterbugs. I don't know how many times I've seen half eaten food laying in parking lots, empty boxes, food containers, condoms, beer bottles, etc. And a garbage can is nearby. Lazy motherfuckers (scuse the cussing)

Why is this looked at as either/or?

China, India, Indonesia and the West really need to sort their act out fast

War seems to have been the best way to control population in history. I am not in favor of war . . . Just saying . . . Consider what the population would be if there was never war.

The United States is not the problem. Nasty places like China and India are. I know we like to be egocentric, and that everything in the world revolves around us, but environmental issues are hardly a cause of the United States. China and India habitually ignore UN environmental laws. If you don't believe me, google "smog over Chinese cities". Personally, I will not care about environmental issues until China and India literally clean up their act.

Of course not.

Nature will take care of that if we don't kill each other first.

Without a doubt.

No. The resources within the solar system are far too abundant to use the lack of resources on the earth as an excuse to slow the progress of humanity. Never stop innovating. Never stop growing.

No

Can you post the article you saw this in?

Can't wait until they use up the air.

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Very well posited question, and I'm curious to see how the results pan out with more responses.

Absolutely. The future of our planet and our health as a species are far more important than economic growth, especially when 92% of that growth goes to a tiny handful of people.

And as it so happens, there is no trade off between economic growth and the environment in the long run. Our ability to continue to live sustainably is fundamental to the future of or economy. Constant war and conflict over basic resources does not foster economic growth. Rising sea levels and ocean acidification don't foster economic growth. Pollution and waste and don't foster economic growth. It's really just a trade off between our future and the short-term profits of a few.