wetheslaves Live each moment fully
11/22/12 8:58 am
Fiat, it was just odd to hear you speaking with the first person voice. It was over passionate for your normal reclined insightful ness. Guess they really upset you and your uncle. When we get tripped up with fairness we can loose our effectiveness and our way.
brysonperry
11/21/12 11:49 am
Labor unions dont give a crap bout the people, they just want the money. Truth is labor unions are needed anymore. If you have to be in one or you wouldnt get a job its understandable though.
Zod Above Pugetropolis
11/20/12 3:21 pm
I'd feel better knowing they were so good they didn't need union "support" to help them keep their jobs. Having to help carry the dead weight of barely average employees the union went to bat for is unfair to the good workers. Not everyone puts in 100%, 100% of the time. Better to let those go.
Zod Above Pugetropolis
11/20/12 3:09 pm
You have to decide whether joining or resisting is right for you. Depending on he facility and the degree of support for NATCA it may feel a little intimidating as a trainee to be on the outside. Before my last transfer my whole crew was non-member FPLs, and they pretty much left us alone.
Zod Above Pugetropolis
11/20/12 3:03 pm
FIAT2LUX I did not like NATCA, and never joined. You don't have to, but the union puts pressure on everyone to join, especially the new kids. Operationally they're neither bad or good, administratively they're another level that needs to sign off on every little change. Parasites, at best.
FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
11/20/12 10:04 am
Another question. Would you recommend that I join or not join NATCA when I get on as an Air Traffic Controller? Btw, I was under the impression that I would have to join.
gs3rd
11/19/12 9:26 am
I'm not a member anymore because my new company doesn't believe in it and anyone who talks about it will get fired...isn't that against the law?
JaquesV Bentonville, AR
11/18/12 7:48 pm
How about you come live down here for a while and see if you think we are all dumb. I've lived up north and had plenty of interactions with "yankees" and there seems to be a rather high concentration of a$$holes up there. Sure, there are idiots down here, but we don't have anything on Jersey Shore.
JohnnyBraska Nebraska
11/18/12 2:44 pm
Next time you step on an airplane tell me you're not glad that the builder wasn't over worked and making minimum wage. The same goes for the mechanic and the pilot.
JohnnyBraska Nebraska
11/18/12 2:41 pm
I was never pro union until I was got a unionized job. They don't set their own contracts it is a negotiation. A union will not intentionally drive a company into the ground because that will cost there members their jobs.
squish
11/18/12 9:39 am
Me three! Sometimes reading these comments churns my stomach. I've NEVER seen my union act 'thuggish'!
Zod Above Pugetropolis
11/18/12 9:01 am
FUAT2LUX yes, over 30 years of making order out of chaos. It's the second best (after flying) job ever invented, more play than work, for reasonably good pay and a young retirement. Not a great employer though, and NATCA acts as just another administrative layer that makes it worse.
Think Lovin Life
11/18/12 6:41 am
Union thugs never served my needs. They only perpetuated their twisted autocracy. They stole my dues to pay off corruption.
They lied, and eventually negotiated 550 people right out of our jobs.
Think Lovin Life
11/18/12 6:38 am
Masters degree engineering, from the north. Spent five years working in a union shop and completely understand the motivation and corruption of unions like the AFL-CIO. They are a cancer on our society. They don't serve the needs of the workers. They line the pockets of the thugs at the top!
bturney
11/18/12 6:35 am
Yep... All of the above... And Teamsters do NOT make the economy run... YOU'RE an idiot if you truly believe that... And I hope that's not the case...
Think Lovin Life
11/18/12 6:34 am
As long as the CEO makes a dime more than the ignorant union thugs the union won't be satisfied. They simply don't care to understand the challenges.
Unions are a cancer on our society.
Think Lovin Life
11/18/12 6:30 am
Mac ... You don't understand. All 550 of us lost our jobs because the union wasn't satisfied with the best wages in town, their greed was unbounded and their unwillingness to see the market trend and work with the company thru tough times meant that everyone lost. The plant closed. Period.
ceej Michigan
11/18/12 6:18 am
Damage, big business is not democratic. It is authoritarian. Union leaders are elected by members to represent the voice of the workers. Some actions/decisions are voted on as well. If you don't like what union leadership is doing, get involved, make ur voice heard, seek change.
frostedchalk warehouse 13
11/18/12 5:35 am
Yeah but when a company is in bankruptcy it's pretty stupid to ask for more money and your pretty dumb if you think they aren't going to ask you to take a pay cut.
JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
11/18/12 12:25 am
Think of it this way. The government is the employer. The American people are the workforce. The Constitution is the union contract with the employer protecting the workforce. Get rid of the Constitution and government could and probably would control your life. No one would ever say that...
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