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Great point.

No, private businesses should be able to freely deny service on any basis. Yes, even racist and homophobic ones. The more they let their true colors shine, the quicker their reputation will send their business into a nosedive. Or in the case of a business exercising that freedom for a positive cause such as opposing neo-naziism, their reputation may garnish support to help their business.

This is an excellent question.
You can't have it both ways. If you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you either have the right to deny service or you don't.

You clearly misunderstand the provision of service vs the mandating of speech.

Yes, and as they serve the bakery goods they can pray over them. Quite a Psalm 51 is good

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As long as the customers are civil with the owners at all times there is no reason they can't sell them pre made bakery items. But any special orders, they can decline any of those they choose.

Where is this happening?

No, but they probably would

"Jews, Nazis, Bakery"

Just don't let them near the oven...

The thing that strikes me most about the inappropriateness of this argument is the following. A gay couple walk into a bakery or photographer's office or some other establishment selling wares to folks who will be celebrating their marriage soon. This loving couple encounter a person full of hate. They are the victims in this encounter. In trying to justify the actions of the hate-filled shop keeper, this argument swaps the parties. The hate-filled person is the person seeking service, while the good person is the oppressed race standing behind the counter. It's exceptionally destructive, and in the same vein as blaming a rape victim for being raped because she was intoxicated and wearing revealing clothing or the abused wife for her abuse because she should have known her abuser would be tired after work and she should have kept the children quiet.

It's an argument full of evil. And the appropriate way to answer is to call out the evil it contains.



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There's a difference between actions and identity. It's wrong to turn someone away from your business because they are black, gay, trans, old, etc. It's okay to turn someone away because they are involved in a gang.

No business should be forced to serve anyone.

No, I oppose at and all forms of involuntary servitude and forced labor.

Nope.