Where is the money coming from for Bernie Sanders' "free college?"
Steal from the rich and give to the poor.
Taxpayers, just like "free" high school. I know, it's a radical concept.
It's a little different wouldn't you say?
I don't. A college education is essentially of the same importance as a high school degree in the 40s and 50s. So on the individual, it's of the same importance now as something we've long been paying for.
Societally though, we educate youths not out of a sense of obligation or good will, but due to national interest. IMO, It is very much in our interest to have an educated workforce. I honestly don't see a difference in terms of the both the individual or state interests. Do you?
I was thinking more in terms of expense. All the excess fat and bloat.
What'd you mean? Are you talking higher education in general or state universities? Keep in mind, we're free to require the public institutions meet any determined thresholds we devise to receive full funding.
I'm thinking public colleges and universities.
I suspect there is a lot of bloat in public higher education. Some regions probably have it worse than others, I'm thinking of extracurriculars like sports which take on a life of their own in some places.
But the system can be built from the ground up, we don't need to rely on existing institutions if they aren't going to be suitable for our goals. If our goals are correct, we can set out in making a system similar to how high schools function, if not more efficient. I just want all folks to be able to get educated, and I want our nation to have an educated workforce. That doesn't require a lot of the unnecessary things we associate with higher learning institutions as we currently know them.
Out of hard working people's pockets.
Basically everyone who's using this app + a few million innocent more hard working Americans.
Will be coming from me within a few years.
Your children's piggy bank.
Legalizing drugs and criminal justice reform will save us billions.
Yes they will but you have to go to the root of the problems as well
I want to smoke what Bernie smokes.
The middle class and small business
Taxes. It's not a mystery lol, I'm surprised you're asking.
Did you see the video? I know where it's coming from but this Bernie supporting politician couldn't for the life of her explain it. Lol I felt slight sad for her.
It is coming from the money everyone will save under his universal health plan. So he says.
The poor and middle class families that it's supposed to benefit, that's the parodic of socialism, it try's and helps people but only leads to eternal suffering.
...and then finally they came for you.
The back pockets of the middle class.
IDK & neither does he. Utopian dreams.
His proposed wall street tax
Borrowing more money and raising our taxes!!! Yay!!
While I do not support "free college," I strongly support affordable college.
In 1975, you could pay for tuition at a public university by working 10 hours a week at a minimum wage job. Now it is more than 55 hours, and you still have rent and food to buy as well as to e for school.
I also have an issue with the phrasing of the question. The implication of, "where does the money come from for....." type questions always sets the premise that in order for someone else to get something, you have to get less. This is not a zero sum game.
The GI Bill was probably one of the greatest investments this country ever made. Even though it had high costs, it was one of the larger contributors to the post war boom.
A healthy, educated population is the greatest resource, and investment this country could ever make.
* as well as time for school. ^
I'm more in line with you. Affordable college and better interest rates.
I phrased the question in the same way Chris Matthews did. I would have phrased it differently had I been asking on my own.
I did not mean the phrasing comment to be directed at you, more at all of us, including myself.
It is the same as the statement, "I am for smaller government." It really doesn't mean anything and does little to contribute to a discussion.
In Florida, the lottery was supposed to benefit and help fund education. Originally, "A"students with community service hours received college tuition, books, and fees. Bright Futures now covers less and less of expenses, as lottery money is diverted elsewhere. "Free college" is just another way to gouge money that will later be used for other purposes.
I agree with all above in that college should be more affordable. Interest rates are ridiculously high on government loans. Free college is not feasible and it in some ways devalues the degree imho.
Do human beings still inhabit Florida or is it just the reptilian overlords now?
Our pockets, whether we decide to go to college or not.
My $15 ($7.50 after taxes, of course) pay check from my minimum wage job
.. per hour
I feel you
I'm so sick of this. There is free college in Germany and they still have a balanced budget. Why does America want to keep tuition fees? Start spending on education already.
And they have public health care. I don't know what they specifically have, but I know France has a public option, which I think is ideal.
Well not ideal, but the best we can get given these circumstances.
Because schools cost money to run. The only way to provide it for free is to drastically raise taxes and/or cut spending. Got to get off the "everything should be free" train or it will derail and kill us all.
Above are the tax rates and college cost for France basically 45% top tax bracket ours is 68% effective tax rate and in both you still have to pay for college. If you want to see our education system fail go ahead and make it free. The answer is give the education system back to the states and cut all government cost out of it. France gets away with having gov run systems because they are the size of a state here in America.
I agree with Kscott.
Are American students busting down the doors to get to Germany? Seems like that'd be the case if the German schools were free and superior to American schools?
The problem is the costs of living abroad and that courses usually are in, surprise, German!
For example, I plan on going to university in France
One more thing about living costs: German colleges usually have no dorms, you don't live on campus but with parents or rent an apartment. Germans get an interest free loan but foreigners should calculate $5,000 per semester rent.
Also true. More benefits are available to natives.
Which is another reason American universities come with a cost.
Even the poor will get a 23% tax increase. He wend send this country to hell
Tuition: does this include books, housing, and a stocked meal card?
I'm unsure, I've wondered this myself. I know in France (where I hope to go to school), tuition is very low, and books and stuffs are subsidized because I'd be a student.
I'm surprised Bernie isn't going after the exorbitant hikes in state tuition (which was always supposed to be the more affordable option) and the ridiculous hike in interest rates. For example my first loan was .5 and 1% interest. Now they are 6 and 6.5%.
Speculation fee on Wall Street. According to his website, it will cost about 70 billion a year.
Right out of your paycheck
You will be in for a harsh reality, my friend
His intention is to put a speculation fee on Wall Street speculations. But even still, we could cut 70 billion from military spending easily.
Whenever they target the rich, the middle class gets hit as well
I'm pretty sure a tax on Wall Street billionaires
Which will be handed down to the production end resulting in a increase in the cost of the product
Trump should pay for it for making us put up with him.
The same place all socialist get their money they will raise taxes be it across the board or on the rich The middle and lower class will pay it thru increase in the cost of products they buy. It is the same game they always play. They don't understand that anytime you increase the cost of production the increase is reflected in the cost of product.
I want to adopt you as my child.
If Bernie magically won, do you think any of this would ever pass?
I don't think so would you be willing to take a higher tax increase. The first thing that has to be done to decrease to cost of college is change the laws of tenure there are too many professors that don't even teach and can't because they have been convicted of crimes that set in the teacher lounge and continue to draw a salary with regular raises. Get rid of all of the dead weight and huge salaries of administration staff and then let's see what needs to debate done to make college more affordable. There are many ways to get corporate America involved like increase the tax write off of donations. Or do like the state of Arkansas did we have a lottery all proceeds go to a college fund. And are distributed on a gpa scale.
Mrs., If Bernie would prevail, yes eventually. When Dems have the Congress and the White House, they will take action on these crazy ideas. Happened in the first two years of Clinton and Obama that extreme ideas and concepts were pushed through.
Here is how you put your kids thru college do the same thing I have done I work 168 hrs every two weeks have for 26 yrs. My kids work hard to get good grades my oldest has a 4.0 and just got a full paid scholarship to a four year college she earned just like I earned every dime I will spend on the things that are not paid for. I'm sorry that you can't get something for nothing I'm sorry you have to earn it you will put your best effort forward if you have to pay for the cost of your own failure. This is the land of opportunity not the land of redistribution.