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political April 5th, 2016 10:16pm

Mississippiโ€™s governor signed into law a bill that allows businesses to refuse services to gay couples based on religious objections.

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
04/08/16 9:53 am

You want to deny service to happy people? Why? Happiness is contagious ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„

Dorkiness aside, it's not like they're going to wave their fingers at you and scream "YOU ARE NOW GAAAAYYY!" and POOF! you're instantly gay. * eyeroll *

TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 12:13 pm

So many people below advocating denial of service for any reason. As I recall, that didn't work out.

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snozwaffer Dove Canyon, CA
04/11/16 10:10 am

No shoes, no shirt, no service? How about black tie min dress code? How about we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone?

TheSocialist INTJ
04/11/16 11:27 am

They can control those things.

Ritter97 St. Louis, MO
04/06/16 12:05 pm

I support this bill. A private business should have a right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. If the business is unethical, it'll fail. Let the free market run its course.

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TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 12:12 pm

No it won't, say all food producers stopped selling food to LGBTQs. What then?

Ritter97 St. Louis, MO
04/06/16 12:17 pm

That would be a disaster, but that would never happen. In reality, if it is reported even ONE food business refused to serve LGBTQ's, they would be plastered all over the media (as they should), and they would lose a lot of money (as they should)

Ritter97 St. Louis, MO
04/06/16 12:20 pm

And even if the business did succeed, LGBTQ's would be able to go somewhere else to buy food. That's the beauty of the free market.

TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 12:26 pm

I am sure lots of "pious" people would help them, as they shouldn't.

Ritter97 St. Louis, MO
04/06/16 12:29 pm

There are only so many "pious" people in the world. The reality is they would lose virtually anyone else. That is most likely going to equate to a loss of business.

TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 12:40 pm

Add the number of Cruz and Trump voters. That is how much business they would keep.

badattitude no place like home
04/07/16 8:25 am

Imagine the lucrative opportunities for LGBT friendly businesses?

EMLVLEX34
04/06/16 10:17 am

This is good but it shouldn't be just for religious purposes. Businesses should be able to deny service for any reason at any time.

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snozwaffer Dove Canyon, CA
04/11/16 10:11 am

No shoes, no shirt, no service? How about black tie min dress code? How about we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone?

merry13 Saved by Grace
04/06/16 4:58 am

A business should have the right to refuse service to any person for any reason. I don't care if it is because they are white, green, purple, women, Christians, or any other reason. Let the free market do its job.

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TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 12:11 pm

^dislike
I refuse to serve people like you.

merry13 Saved by Grace
04/06/16 8:04 pm

That's your right. I don't support many businesses because of how they operate. Business owners should be able to do the same.

wealthycent Pennsylvania
04/06/16 3:44 am

Cant they reject black people and other ethnic minorities as well?

political Georgia
04/06/16 5:06 am

Not likely, but a business should be able to.

TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 12:14 pm

Why should it be able to?

political Georgia
04/06/16 1:00 pm

Because the business is not owned by consumers or the government...

TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 2:31 pm

Maybe it should be then.

political Georgia
04/06/16 2:44 pm

That's socialism

TheSocialist INTJ
04/06/16 3:12 pm

Problem?

kscott516 EB rules
04/05/16 9:43 pm

Great law! Only wish it had been passed sooner.

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Carolynn new jersey
04/05/16 8:43 pm

Hmm. A business that refuses to serve people based on religious objections? So, a Christian won't serve people who sin? Isn't that everyone? They'd go out of business really fast.

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RB20 Indiana
04/06/16 6:48 am

Thanks for explaining how the free market works

Carolynn new jersey
04/06/16 7:14 am

How do Christians have businesses if it's against their religion to serve sinners? Do they pick and choose which sinners to serve? How do they choose which sinners are more worthy of their service than others?

RB20 Indiana
04/06/16 7:15 am

I don't own a business how would I know how they choose? Either way how they chose shouldn't matter, if they own the business, then it's their choice who to serve, plain and simple

Carolynn new jersey
04/06/16 11:45 am

I'm a business owner and I think businesses should be allowed to refuse service to whomever they want. And hire whomever they want.

That being said, my point was how ridiculous it is to claim religious objections when a business refuses service. If they were consistent with their convictions, they'd go out of business very quickly.

Carolynn new jersey
04/06/16 11:46 am

Just because I disagree with their reasoning, doesn't mean I think it should be illegal.

RB20 Indiana
04/06/16 11:48 am

I never stated whether you think it should be illegal or not. I wasn't trying to attack you either

Carolynn new jersey
04/06/16 3:06 pm

Ok, I apologize. I just didn't understand the purpose of your comments.

EarlyBird Portland
04/05/16 8:04 pm

Ugh, it's a step in the wrong direction.

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RB20 Indiana
04/06/16 6:49 am

Freedom is never the wrong direction

sweetnes34 Outta Phucks
04/06/16 12:05 pm

Discrimination is always the wrong direction

RB20 Indiana
04/06/16 12:06 pm

It's freedom. You don't have a right to another person's property or labor

sweetnes34 Outta Phucks
04/06/16 12:15 pm

If your are offering a service or product you don't get to deny potential customers because you don't agree with their life, skin color, or abilities. If you want to live in a repressive society they're are plenty of choices in this world, this country isn't and shouldn't be one

sweetnes34 Outta Phucks
04/06/16 12:18 pm

After a few butt hurt Christians are denied anything by a Muslim or other members of society this will be repealed

RB20 Indiana
04/06/16 12:19 pm

Nope,y business my choice. Idgaf if you're a gay black Muslim deny whoever you want. I don't own you're business I don't tell you how to run it. It's an easy concept

curly
04/05/16 6:51 pm

I smell a SCOTUS case.

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cowboy Here and There
04/05/16 6:29 pm

Too bad that pussy in Georgia didn't follow the will of the people.

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political Georgia
04/05/16 6:49 pm

That would be correct.

customerservice call center
04/05/16 6:27 pm

I understand some people believe the bible says it is wrong to be gay. However doing business with gay people does not make you gay by association. It's not as though you contract sin, because you are still not gay. I understand people's beliefs, but I honestly don't understand how bills like these hold up in a court of law.

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million Along the Puget Sound
04/05/16 6:10 pm

Couldn't any one claim 'religious believes' for anything? It seems like a half assed attempt to continuing the sad history of discrimination in the south. Who would have thought this state so full of good Christian people would also be so against the idea of brotherly love with all humans.

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elbrutus23 Chicago, IL
04/05/16 5:40 pm

Doesn't Mississippi have much bigger problems to solve than just try to stick it the gays? You'd think they spend more energy trying to improve their disastrous education system. These laws are nothing more than means to remind the LGBT community that they are in fact second class citizens.

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political Georgia
04/05/16 5:42 pm

That's nonsense. They have the same constitutional rights as straights.

elbrutus23 Chicago, IL
04/05/16 6:16 pm

Sure, they may have the same rights as straight Americans now, but what we are seeing is a backlash to the newly enshrined Rights of the LGBT community. They may now be "equal" but they sure are not being treated as equal by the large segments of the population. Whenever one margin was group gains a quality, there will invariably be a backlash – which is what we are seeing with all these "religious liberty" laws being passed. The state legislatures of the states these laws are being passed would like nothing more than to completely isolate the LGBT community.

political Georgia
04/05/16 6:51 pm

By the same language in the bill, a business could not serve someone who had premarital sex. This is not limited to gays.

elbrutus23 Chicago, IL
04/05/16 7:00 pm

Sure, but you know full well that the LGBT community will be affected disproportionately more than any other population.

political Georgia
04/05/16 7:03 pm

I think business owners are discriminated upon for not being allowed to exercise their religious beliefs.

PeterTheViking Seattle
04/06/16 12:10 am

Personally, as a gay man, I like these laws because they make it really obvious who I shouldn't be supporting financially. Like if you don't want my money cause I'm gay then I'm glad you told me cause I don't want you to have my money. As long as these laws only apply to the private sector then whatever... You don't want to do business with me then I'll just walk the extra 100 yards to the next burger joint or wherever. Like you do you. You wanna lose money? Go at it chief, that's your loss...Again, this is just my personal opinion.

political Georgia
04/06/16 7:02 am

I would have the same attitude if a gay person didn't want to serve me.

thomas12266
04/05/16 5:27 pm

People should have the freedom to deny service WITHOUT discrimination.

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Liberty 4,032,064
04/05/16 5:01 pm

It's a good reiteration of the 13th amendment.

Okie1967 The world is crazy
04/05/16 4:37 pm

I support that although I don't know of any Christian precept that would prevent someone from serving gay people, but I can certainly understand not wanting to bake gay cakes. I would refuse to bake a gay cake.

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Okie1967 The world is crazy
04/05/16 4:38 pm

People should never be required by law to violate their consciences when it's a matter of religion.

1samsweeney Make America Great Again
04/05/16 4:40 pm

Being able to run your own business how you like is disgusting??

jvberg Winter has Come
04/05/16 7:16 pm

Denying someone service for who they are is disgusting

kscott516 EB rules
04/05/16 9:45 pm

They aren't denying service to gay people just because they're gay. Only for same sex marriages.

jvberg Winter has Come
04/05/16 9:47 pm

But but but wouldn't that mean they're denying service to gay people because same sex couples are, well, gay?

kscott516 EB rules
04/06/16 5:44 am

Only for a specific service. They will serve gay couples for any other purpose besides a same sex marriage. So, no, not just because they're gay.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
04/05/16 3:36 pm

Honestly, depends on the type of business whether or not I would agree.

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PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
04/05/16 3:20 pm

Utterly fucking disgusting. Then again, that's to be expected of the state that never got around to ratifying the 13th amendment until 2013.

I wonder if King Salman of Saudi Arabia wants to vacation there this summer?

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political Georgia
04/05/16 3:22 pm

This is the same state that has the highest percentage of vaccinated children. They are so backwards, I know...

PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
04/05/16 3:24 pm

Yet is also America's poorest and fattest state, with the lowest quality education in the country. Florida is our embarrassment? That title should go to them instead.

political Georgia
04/05/16 3:26 pm

Huh? What about Florida? I guess those poor fat people in Mississippi accept science more so than all other states. Isn't that great?

PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
04/05/16 3:34 pm

Florida is usually given the title of being the embarrassment because of all the crazy people. And no, they wouldn't accept science. Mississippi is at the bottom of education lists. Not only are they culturally backwards, they're nearly the stupidest, fattest, and poorest state in the country. Its only going to get poorer when some of their largest corporations start boycotting them. Ingalls, Nissan, and MGM are already threatening to leave. I've already written to a couple of senators today (it'll do nothing, honestly) to close down and relocate the military bases within the state. A birthday project for myself.

PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
04/05/16 3:35 pm

Seriously though. Its sad that this wikipedia page exists: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_God_for_Mississippi

political Georgia
04/05/16 3:37 pm

Must not be too backwards if they don't deny vaccines though, right?

PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
04/05/16 3:42 pm

Are you really defending that stinking shitpile of a state? One thing. That's it. I'll give them one for vaccines, that's it. Still makes early 20th century Russia look like a progressive nation.

Nikc
04/05/16 4:00 pm

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HoosierFan
04/05/16 4:02 pm

To paraphrase Forrest Gump, "bigotry is as bigotry does."

political Georgia
04/05/16 4:12 pm

How can it be unconstitutional?

Nikc
04/05/16 6:22 pm

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customerservice call center
04/05/16 6:35 pm

CRA= civil rights act of 1964 (I assume). Unfortunately I think bills like this fall outside the purview of the CRA. You need to add an amendment to make sure stuff like this bill or the one in North Carolina are defunct. That's not unheard of, I think in 1972 it was amended to add the Equal Employment Opportunity act.

Nikc
04/05/16 6:37 pm

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political Georgia
04/05/16 6:42 pm

That's what was wrong with the civil rights act of 1964. It crept into the private sector.

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04/05/16 6:44 pm

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political Georgia
04/05/16 6:52 pm

That's close to what I said.

customerservice call center
04/05/16 6:55 pm

If you believe 'laws' creep into the private sector, as though the private sector is immune, or not shaped and created by state law and policy, or has any right to operate outside those laws/policies; then I'm sorry but you have an extremely weak understanding of government. But I could tell that by the other nonsensical garbage you've posted. Anyone who thinks there was a 'problem' with the civil rights act, is someone I have great pity for as they are obviously yearning to go back to a time of blatant discrimination and oppression. Your idiocy and contempt sadden me. I shall pray that you see the light of empathy.

political Georgia
04/05/16 7:02 pm

How cute! Customer service put me on ignore. The irony.

Nikc
04/05/16 7:15 pm

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political Georgia
04/05/16 7:17 pm

๐Ÿ‘Œ

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SouthernLaw Old North State
04/05/16 3:19 pm

Mississippi and North Carolina both made very good decisions๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

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political Georgia
04/05/16 3:20 pm

I didn't hear the news about North Carolina. I'm glad to hear that your Governor made the right decision.

political Georgia
04/05/16 3:18 pm

This is good. Georgia dropped the ball, but Mississippi did the right thing. A business is owned by the business owner not the consumer.

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bartman71 USW
04/05/16 6:47 pm

What they should do, is create gays only bathrooms, and gays only drinking fountains. That would put those evil gays in their place. You betcha. ๐Ÿ˜’

political Georgia
04/05/16 7:05 pm

Your words not mine.

bartman71 USW
04/05/16 10:38 pm

A line was lain for a reason, now where do you draw it?