Spellcheck: judgment or judgement?
The spelling judgment is found in the Authorized Version of the Bible. However, the spelling judgement (with e added) largely replaced judgment in the United Kingdom in a non-legal context. In the context of the law, however, judgment is preferred. In the U.S. judgment strongly prevails. As with many such spelling differences, both forms are equally acceptable in Canada and Australia, although judgment is more common in Canada and judgement in Australia.
I much prefer judgement. Better form, IMO.
I've always thought judgment was one of the stupidest spellings of any word. I always pronounce it "jud-ig-ment"
Judgment at Nuremberg
I believe, although both are acceptable, British = E, American = no E
I read once that "judgment" entered as the official spelling after one of those largely unsuccessful attempts at spelling reform.
Judgment. Judgement. Both are good, according to Apple.
Can we have half an e?
English or American? If you try to use voice text, you get judgment. Which is proper in American language.
Idiots if you have autocorrect and got that wrong.
I mean technically neither are wrong
Technically, both are correct. American is judgment. British is judgement. Similar to theater and theatre (I sometimes use either). There isn't one right answer
I use theater if it's cinema, and theatre if it's a play.
I love how people are acting self righteous over other for this. Was unaware we were in third grade.
How judgmental of them
No reason to pass judgement over spelling a word correctly
Majority is wrong...
Judgment just looks wrong! I've always spelled it JUDGEMENT. I didn't realize the other spelling was accepted.
When will we remember the use of "chieves," "rooves," and "staves"
Although the traditional/formal spelling is judgment, judgement is gaining ground in usage for non-legal purposes. Both are acceptable. Judgment is preferred for formal application.
Language and spelling change over time... *shrug*.
Let's ask Siri - judgment
It worked !
Siri is a terrible speller, and no authority whatever in my book.
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One of my elementary teachers, back in the '50's, said that, one day, teachers with inadequate educations would rise up to change simple, basic things, like "judgement". She warned us not to succumb to such foolishness. Nothing personal, y'all. 😎😎
In America, use JUDGMENT. In the UK, use JUDGEMENT. In America, use THEATER. In the UK, use THEATRE.
It's judgement. Judgment is literally spellchecked on my phone, lmao.
Your phone will change its spell check to something you write more, like wrud will change to wryd (what are you/u doing) just because I say wryd more
I work in the legal field and we use judgment - all of our court mandated forms say "judgment" as well. Not saying the other is incorrect, just that I use what I have to use.
Just use good judgement
I write it without the extra e, but I see it both ways a lot. I say it without the unnecessary e too, juj-ment, not juj-eh-ment.
Honestly, I've corrected people when they write "judgment." I thought there was only 1 spelling - JUDGEMENT. Ooops! 😳😮 Guess I was wrong lol!
I'm pretty sure that's what I was taught too..... Hmmmm????
I spell it judgement but apparently both are correct?
Where's @tlaney1's take already??
@tlaney1 we need you!
Sorry, folks! I slept all morning and went to an early movie this afternoon.
I have devised a mnemonic for you to make it easy (hear this in a British Cockney accent, where they "drop their aitches"):
• If a judge determines your fate, 'e renders a judgEment;
When you use your OWN judgment, 'e's no longer involved.
So judgment is personal, and judgement is legal. Note that some authorities disagree, but they are not the SoH
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so who cares what THEY think? :^D
Ooh, awesome, thanks for the explanation! :)
Either spelling is perfectly OK. I believe "judgment" is more often used by Americans and "judgement" by Brits, but apparently there's a little history involved there. I'm not going to worry about it.
British or American? Americans drop the "e".
Sorry I accidentally cut that off rudely. I was going to say,
Not to the best of my knowledge. Is it a regional thing?
Nope. It's a general thing. Judgment is the accepted spelling in the US, though lawyers often spell it with the "e". The internet (which AP style is finally letting us lowercase) may force a change due to common usage. But as a rule, it's no "e" in the US.
Trust me, I'm a professional here.
I usually assume that you drop the 'e' when adding a suffix. ...but maybe that's just when the suffix begins with a vowel.
Ive always written "judgement" maybe its one of these annoying americanisms you guys insist on using 😉
Equip. Equipment. Measure. Measurement. Judge. Judgement. It's just that simple.
It's an exception to normal rules. Judgment.
@BritishGuy : I use judgement. I also use double consonants to keep vowels short (ex: travelled, not traveled). I don't see how "traveled" wouldn't be pronounced trav-EEL-d. I know that one is accepted both ways, so I don't believe there's a penalty for either preference.
My question (maybe you can help me here, @tlaney1 ), is why we use "buses" for a plural of the noun, but "bussed" for a past tense of the verb. Or why "buses" wouldn't rhyme with "fuses," I suppose.
Firely: why do "bologna" and "pony" rhyme?!
I would guess because bologna is an Italian word and so doesnt follow English rules
Goose is an english word and doesn't follow english rules (goose to geese not gooses)(and I guess you could say its a greek word since the plural form is based on the greek plural forms). English is an amalgamation of different words from different languages stitched together to make something half-way coherent. I know you're british, and maybe you pride yourself in living in the country that started the awful worldwide phenomenon that is english, but the language makes no sense and sounds stupid. At least its not like french with its 5 silent letters, though. Wait, "though" has a silent "u", "g" and "h", and those three letters perfectly describe my feelings toward this language.
Haha yeah I'm not particularly proud of English or at least other peoples attitudes to English and their thoughts on its importance compared to other languages. It is essentially the result of an unprotected orgy between French, German, Latin and Greek turned up for the last bit.
You... This is the best sentence I have ever read!
Haha well thats probably how English formed 😂
yeah, that is how it formed, there is no doubting that. I've just never heard it so eloquently put!
I just want to throw this out there: my name-tag-thing is in spanish and not english. It means "umbrella duck". Though i'm speaking english right now, i will not let it represent me.😤🇪🇸
Haha 💃🏿🇪🇸 #freedomfromenglish
I thought it was judgement, but I was writing an essay yesterday which told me otherwise. (The red line)
Wow this is better than those old fraction division math problems
I'd like to see one of those done as a main poll. Not everybody is familiar with PEMDAS, it seems.
Laserbeam - Let's not go there. Man, some of the longest, and at times nastiest, comments sections have resulted from that stuff - involving just one particular infamous math problem. The last time someone mentioned it in an unrelated poll, I said, as above, "Let's not do that ever again." Tony noticed that, and almost immediately posted it as a new poll... So I'm probably jinxing myself, and all of us, by cautioning against it yet again.
It's not just not knowing PEMDAS, although that was 98% of the problem, the first 2 times. There's standard PEMDAS, and there are variants of PEMDAS, and then there are folks who have apparently persuasive arguments otherwise. The 3rd time around, it wasn't just PEMDAS-ignorant people arguing against the accepted correct answer - it was some of the smartest most math-savvy people here.
Honestly, I was looking forward to the usual political/abortion/religion battles, after that.
Oh my gosh... Now i want to know what this math problem is... Tell me... Please... I promise not to erupt
While some claim that Noah Webster first recorded the spelling of judgment in his 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language, judgment has been the prevailing spelling on both sides of the pond since the late 1600s.
Both are acceptable spellings of the word. If you don't believe me, try typing both and see if either one has the red line underneath.
"Yolo" doesn't have a red line either. Not sure that's the best judgment of worth in the world.
Yolo is a dictionary term as of 2014. Fun fact.
Yeah, so that's not exactly the best argument for "judgement" validity
If the dictionary isn't valid in your opinion, then that sounds like your own problem lol. Academics don't disregard the dictionary like you do and in the dictionary, both spellings are listed.
It's also no secret that "judgement" is the older English spelling and "judgment" is more of an American thing.
I never said the dictionary is not valid, I said being in the dictionary doesn't guarantee best validity. Let's practice a little reading comprehension here.
Saying they have equal worth/usage because they're both in the dictionary is like saying carpe diem and yolo are interchangeable in all settings and yolo is always appropriate to use. It's not.
Actually that's not true, judgment is the classic spelling. A simple google search will help clear that up for you. grammarist.com/spelling/judgment-judgement/
I appreciate you linking me to an obscure blog. Scroll down to the bottom of this page from Merriam Webster, a source that can be trusted, and see the section titled "did you know?". Now you know. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/judgment
So are you ready to admit now that both are correct, like I originally stated? Or would you like to continue being unreasonable and arguing with Merriam Webster?
You realize that on the page you linked they're talking about two guys with different *opinions* on this, right? But yeah, pretend what I gave is just an "obscure blog" and the links within tell you nothing. 😉 have a good day.
It's funny you mentioned reading comprehension earlier. You seem to be struggling with it. Let me help you out. "Did You Know?
Judgment can also be spelled 'judgement'".
I've never said judgement is not a word in the dictionary or a word that's used. You need to actually read my comments.
Well that's an interesting educational attainment breakdown.
How's that? All educational levels seem to be in agreement that "judgement" is the preferred spelling.
Because it's fairly in a row, level wise. It's interesting that a formal education seems to be so directly related to using the formal/proper spelling.
Interpreting statistics is hard. Only 36% of those with a doctorate prefer what you see as the formal spelling. Which inversely means 64%, aka the majority, of highly educated folks prefer the "informal" spelling. Hmmm, makes you wonder.
There is no correlation between education level and which spelling is preferred when the majority of every education level prefers the same spelling.
Holy shit, 36% for one means that 64% indicated the other option in a dichotomous response?! THANK GOD YOU'RE HERE TO TELL ME OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOWN!!!
Nothing I've said is contradicted by a larger percentage using the less correct spelling. The educational trend I highlighted still exists. Your quest to prove me wrong did more poorly here than it did above.
Apparently you don't know what "correlation" means. Yikes.
Correlation: a mutual relationship or connection between two or more things. There is no correlation between education level and which spelling is preferred. It's not hard to see that. Both spellings are correct and it's a matter of personal preference. The statistics clearly indicate that those with a higher education tend to prefer "judgement", and I'm not sure why you're so passionate and/or bitter about this lol. I hope your day gets better.
Your first two sentence contradict each other.
Here, let me help your judgment: www.stat.yale.edu/Courses/1997-98/101/correl.htm
That is, those with a higher education prefer the same spelling as those with little/no education, therefore no correlation. Get it now?
"I'm not sure why you're so passionate and/or bitter about this"
I was going to say the same about you while seeing you on multiple threads so worked up that you aren't even comprehending the responses you're reading. Really, no one is arguing that judgement is not a word. No need to be so hellbent on this.
There is a seeming correlation between educational attainment and preference for the use of "judgment" - this is what I said in my first two comments. It is not a hard concept. This should not be so difficult for you. Take a step back and look at what I am saying again.
I know what you said lol. Are you reading what I'm saying? Because for several comments now I've been refuting your interpretation of there being any correlation between the two. Repeating yourself over and over Trump-style isn't going to change the lack of a seeming correlation here. Whether you ask a kindergartner or a 30 year old with a doctorate, based on these results both of them are more likely to say they prefer "judgement". If you can't agree that, based on the results of this poll, education level does not correlate to preference, then we'll just have to agree to disagree with each other's interpretation and go about our day.
Saying people are more likely to use judgement and that there's a relationship between educational attainment and preference for using judgment are two totally different things. They can both exist at the same time without contradicting each other. And guess what? That's exactly what is happening here. This is not at all difficult.
I know both are considered acceptable, but for some reason, I've always preferred the 'e'. I don't wanna be cured, if I don't have to be.
I believe either spelling is acceptable.
Can be a pain in the ass.
W/o the e, but it will always look weird to me!
Judgment is the correct spelling
Both are correct actually.
No, "judgement" is just a common misspelling.
Judgement is the original English spelling. Judgment came later. So again, neither are incorrect nor misspellings. Dictionaries either list both or make a side-note of alternate spellings.
That's not even true. "Judgment" is the original and correct spelling. It isn't really up for dispute, haha.
Both are correct.
Oh, and judgement came first.
It really doesn't matter. I prefer it with an e, though. Looks better 😜
I tried to explain that to him/her, but some people always have to be right and prefer to keep their ears and mind closed (no matter the topic). I appreciate the links but I doubt it was worth your time. Oh well 😁
It's apparently a fairly common myth that "judgement" was once used commonly in England, but you can actually look back at past literary works and see that they used the correct spelling ;)
My phone gives me a choice for either spelling
Pretty sure the correct one is judgment
Yes, it's judgment. My AP Lit teacher made me retake a spelling test twice for misspelling it. I'll never forget it now.
Classic America, screwing up English again.
The majority of people obviously made a poor judgment on this poll.
They're both correct.
Judgment is the standard spelling. My AP Lit teacher made me retake a spelling test twice so I wouldn't misspell it again. She says for formal writing definitely go with judgment.
She should have told you it means absolutely nothing to choose one over the other. It's a silly thing to spend more than 1 second thinking about.
I trust my AP Literature knows what she's doing. If she says use judgment, I'm gonna use judgment.
AP Literature teacher*