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04/08/16 4:55 pm
No, it's closer to the opposite in the mind of the person contemplating it (and intent is what truly matters here, your opinion of someone else's decision is completely irrelevant). They feel that they are a burden to everyone and everything around them and see suicide as the only option to relieve that burden (which is never true, there are always better options). For anyone who disagrees, I urge you to read some of the stories from those who have contemplated suicide to better understand their feelings and how it relates to the people around them.
04/08/16 12:04 pm
I think it is very brave because they are actually standing up for themselves and doing what they want. People should get to choose if they stay on this world since they didn't get to choose to be put on it.
04/05/16 3:34 pm
Not inherently, but that's not to say it can't be. Death with dignity is a great example of suicide not being selfish or cowardly
04/05/16 12:36 pm
It's selfish because it can only be for one person. Everyone dies alone. Its weak and cowardly because dying is the easiest thing to do. Any hardship is on self conviction. Is there anything wrong with any of that? No. Its just part of life.
04/05/16 11:19 am
Suicide is selfish because it HURTS those who care about you.
It is cowardly because you want to kill yourself over taking responsibility for your actions in life. Who knows how much good you could have done to help the world if you were still alive.
Ellock Perpetually Tired
04/05/16 10:25 am
I would argue that it is selfish but not cowardly. Selfish because it passes that pain onto people you love so you can solve a problem. But not cowardly. I don't think it's a 'let me kill myself' and more of a 'I want this pain to finally stop' kind of mindset. But I could be wrong. It was the latter for me.
04/05/16 7:16 am
I think people committing suicide because they are "down" is cowardly. It's a different story if they are terminally ill and in unbearable pain or as @political said about a soldier.
04/05/16 7:13 am
This is something that people who don't understand depression, have not experienced it or lack empathetic abilities say.
Obviously I do not condone it as good, but the person in not in sane mind when suicidal, you can't put labels of "selfishness" on someone who is not mentally stable. And suicidal people close to never really want to die, they just want to stop feeling the pain they feel and some go to extremes. A suicidal state doesn't last very long either so you will often notice that when a person is no longer suicidal at that moment, they will thinking poorly of that decision. There is a serious lack of understanding on the issue.
FacePalm That Trick Never Works
04/05/16 2:56 am
No. Unless a person has been suicidal, the ability to grasp what might be motivating another to suicide is limited.
The words "coward" and "selfish" reflect the feelings and judgements of those left behind. Anger, hurt, and helplessness make us lash out: at ourselves for not stopping it, at society for not stopping it, at them for going through with it.
It is a sad business, suicide.
04/04/16 11:37 pm
No. For many it's seen as a way to eliminate seemingly inescapable pain and suffering. To suggest that being suicidal is a character failure is terrible and does nothing to improve the chances that someone will reach out in their time of need.
04/04/16 11:19 pm
If anything (blaming and calling them cowards) adds more blame and guilt for feeling the way they do, compounding the feeling of stress and loneliness. Depression that manifests in suicidal ideations is something unique to each individual, and engulfs ones mind. It's akin to feeling you are in a burning building and your choices are to remain in the flames or jump to your death to be released from the pain. Suicide attempts most often occur spontaneously, not planned. It's in these moments of panic and desperation that it feels like the only way to be at peace. I wish everyone could overcome that feeling and escape suicide, but I do not wish to add blame or further guilt on those who have. I was not in their mind suffering as they did and have no judgment to offer in that respect, only sorrow that it came to that and they are gone. I disagree with shaming
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