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SupremeDolphin April 2nd, 2016 6:28pm

How would the country be different if Al Gore had become president in 2000 instead of Dubya?

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end Oregon
08/27/16 6:59 pm

we wouldn't have spent trillions on a meaningless war in Iraq and we would probably would not have the huge economic collapse in 2008.

ladyniner81 I hate people
04/03/16 7:57 am

There would've been no Iraq that's for sure. 9/11 still would've happened. Unless he would have listened to the warnings he got (Both Clinton and Bush got warnings) I do wonder how Gore would have handled the housing thing. Republicans say one thing and Democrats say something totally different. I should read up on it but the authors are usually biased

chinito Florida
04/03/16 6:08 am

The thought of having Al Gore is Commander in Chief during 9/11 is scary.

Tariq88 Utah
04/02/16 6:40 pm

It would be different, but it's too late now, it's already been done, the important thing is that we learn from these things.

MemeThief Not Authoritarian
04/02/16 4:35 pm

Failed environmental policies and high taxes, but the backlash would have supported republicans, potentially meaning no "Tea Party" phase.

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
04/02/16 2:35 pm

We would not have invaded Iraq. Probably would've responded to al-Qaeda differently, but not necessarily better. Taxes would've been higher. Different Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (John Roberts who?). 2007 crash still would've happened, causing a Republican to win in 2008. So no Obama and no Obamacare. A successful Republican presidency would meant no "Tea Party" and we wouldn't have the idiots we have running today.

Idahologger up north
04/02/16 1:16 pm

Plastics don't work well for toilet paper...

Idahologger up north
04/08/16 7:34 pm

Timber yields more products and jobs on the same amount of ground than hemp

Luftwaffe South of Heaven
04/02/16 12:34 pm

A lot of failed Environmental programs, less involved in the Middle East, economy would be struggling due to the sudden strict environmental regulations for Green energy, and probaly higher taxes. Basically a slightly bad alternative with Russia recovering quicker from its collapse.

04/02/16 12:26 pm

We would have no military. We would be under NATO's control. Lots of Sharia Law. And gas at $10.00 per gallon. The Soviet Union would have reformed and gobbled up most of Eastern Europe. Aside from that, not too much different.

Brandon2018 Stocks Are Overvalued
04/02/16 12:14 pm

Electric cars everywhere. Oh god no

JennaB Mother
04/02/16 12:23 pm

What's wrong with electric cars?

ronderman North Carolina
04/02/16 1:29 pm

There is nothing wrong wit electric cars! (I'm a conservative)

There would not be electric cars everywhere, but the auto industry would be decimated because of crippling regulations from the government trying to get them here. B

(I really like the new Tesla and hope it is a game changer. )

MediaBlackout Life, Liberty, Property.
04/02/16 12:09 pm

The MIC controls the president and his actions. No difference

fredd TrumpLand
04/02/16 11:53 am

There's a good chance that we wouldn't have invaded Iraq, which would make a huge difference today.

fredd TrumpLand
04/02/16 11:55 am

Even a chance that 9/11 would have been prevented. The Bush administration thought that the Clinton White House took Bin Laden far too seriously and were dismissive of the threat. Seems likely that Gore would not be.

ronderman North Carolina
04/02/16 1:30 pm


Where do you get that information?

ronderman North Carolina
04/02/16 1:31 pm

I agree with the invading Iraq statement but not the 9-11 issue. I totally agree about Iraq.

fredd TrumpLand
04/02/16 2:02 pm

Don't recall where I read it. I believe the sources were retirees from some intelligence position who were disappointed that their warnings went nowhere, so not neutral. But don't remember names. They noted a change in what the new administration listened to compared to the old, apparently the Bush White House was somewhat scornful of many things that the Clinton White House was concerned about, among them Bin Laden.

But I'd agree that the chance of avoiding 9/11, while largely unquantifiable, was probably still slim. The same structure of the Intel agencies would still have been in place, with the same inter-agency communication issues. If Gore had received some inkling, I think he'd be MORE likely to examine the issue but not necessarily to a degree significant enough to change anything.

ronderman North Carolina
04/02/16 2:08 pm

What you have to remember is that Bush had been in office for less than 8 months on 9-11. Clinton had decimated the Intel community and I don't think that anyone could have avoided the attack at that point unless we got lucky with an informant.

As far as Iraq goes, you should pick up the book Without Hesitation by General Hugh Shelton. He was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 9-11-01. (He retired in 10-1-01)

In the last chapters of his book, he explained the day and the meetings following where Rove and Rumsfeld tried to use 9-11 to immediately attack Iraq and he refused. That's why we went into Afghanistan first and Iraq after he was out of his post. The rest of the book is a great read too.

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
04/02/16 2:37 pm

9/11 would still have happened. It was only 8 months into the Bush presidency. They started planning and training during the Clinton administration.

fredd TrumpLand
04/02/16 2:45 pm

I read at least one book that included the same point on Bush deciding to go to Afghanistan first, I think Bob Woodward's? I agree that moment seems well documented.

I don't disagree with your point. I said chance, but I don't think it was a significant one.

04/02/16 11:40 am

The pompous doofus would have had something else to do other than make a film full of lies.

mfjd1948 rural johnson co iowa
04/02/16 11:38 am

I think we wouldn't have gone into Iraq. Global warming would have gotten a lot of attention sooner. More work would have been accomplished with congress. The upper class would be paying their share of taxes.

JennaB Mother
04/02/16 11:34 am

No in massive debt from two unless wars, 2008 wouldn't have been as bad, we'd be MUCH more liberal, we would actually care about our carbon emissions, 9/11 might not have happened, etc...

ronderman North Carolina
04/02/16 1:33 pm

This is the second claim on this poll that 9-11 would have been avoided. How would he have avoided it?

I agree about Iraq BTW. Iraq was totally a Rumsfeld FUBAR.

JennaB Mother
04/02/16 1:59 pm

"9/11 MIGHT have been prevented" not saying it definitely would, but with recent discoveries we now know that the Bush-Cheney administration had received multiple dossiers from the CIA amd FBI about a suspected imminent attack. Yet they chose to do absolutely nothing. Gore would have atleast had us on alert and possibly taken action imo.

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
04/02/16 2:42 pm

The Clinton administration was just as deaf. Neither President was neglectful in my mind - they just didn't believe al-Qaeda (or anyone) could strike us here. What I would hope is that war in Afghanistan would've been handled differently. A large, quick invasion to capture Osama and a quick end to the war. But, probably not.
And the crash would've happened with the same impact. Presidents have a lot less impact than we give credit.

ladyniner81 I hate people
04/03/16 7:50 am

Clinton got a warning about 9/11. Bush got 2. If Gore got the presidency, it still would've happened. No matter WHO was president.

SupremeDolphin They.them
04/02/16 11:32 am

I don't want to be naïve and say we would have avoided the crash, but I think we'd be a greener country.

allswel Minnesota
04/02/16 12:00 pm

And not declaring a pre-emotive and unfunded war would have reduced our current debt by one third.

Not over extending tax cuts would have reduced our debt by another third.

Probably we would have had increased spending, so let's just say the minimum would have been a 50% reduction of our national debt.

allswel Minnesota
04/02/16 12:01 pm

* declaring a preemptive and unfunded ^