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Ben Carson stated "There's a false narrative that only the political class has the wisdom and the ability to be commander in chief." Do you agree to this statement?

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12/20/15 11:12 am

We definitely need less career politicians and more term limits, personal accountability and smaller government.

corino Utah
12/18/15 12:37 am

Maybe if Trump and Carson knew what the moderator was talking about when the triad was brought up, but they looked like idiots.

abusara i drink and i know things
12/17/15 8:36 pm

There is a false narrative that Ben Carson has the wisdom to be commander in chief.

OnTheFassbender North Fort Myers
12/18/15 12:24 am

Wow, I have a crush on you.

Amaranth Iowa
12/17/15 8:29 pm

Quite frankly, I must disagree. Leader of the free world is not an entry level position. No matter how much support you have, or how great your positions, an effective leader must have some experience. There has never been a president (except Hoover) who hasn't either been a politician or war hero, both of which often make important decisions, just like the president. Hoover was elected because he was one of history's greatest humanitarians. As a president he was poorly.

bringstheeagle Colorado
12/17/15 9:37 pm

Excellent ant thoughtful reply. I fully agree. Followed.

OnTheFassbender North Fort Myers
12/18/15 12:26 am

Just because it's been that way doesn't mean a non politico wouldn't make an effective leader. Don't you think one of the biggest problems today is that once elected the only concern becomes the next election overshadowing all important causes?

bringstheeagle Colorado
12/18/15 2:43 pm

That concern wouldn't change with a novice and if you don't stay elected you can't accomplish anything. I don't like non-career politicians in any party nor any federal position especially the presidency - Just my preference.

SharpenedSavage USA
12/23/15 9:55 am

Should be a no party wealthy citizen who steps on toes and fixes this great nation.

logicalphallus Minnesota
12/17/15 6:16 pm

There's a lot of people who are very unaware of how much they don't know.

MisterE Conservistan
12/17/15 1:55 pm

It's a simple job. All you have to do is avoid pointless wars. Somehow most of the Presidents have failed to do so.

colinweber a reclining chair
12/17/15 1:39 pm

Well, I would have agreed, but then Ben Carson ran for president. And Trump. So...

AnnabethWillis mississippian 4 trump
12/17/15 1:22 pm

yes and i wish he would write more books on grain silos i want to visit them one day

obertar1 NY
12/17/15 10:39 am

Geo Bush Sr was CIA Director. Reagan was an actor. Many presidents were Generals. Lincoln was a lawyer. Granted, many got their feet wet in Congress or as Governors. Maybe Carson should start lower & prove his metal before going for topdog. To me, he comes off as quite pacifist, not ready to take on any fights.

ProbablyEug Oakland
12/17/15 10:07 am

Not only that, I believe only a subset of the political class is capable of making these decisions. Being commander in chief isn't just fighting bad guys. It's considering the repercussions of those fights, engaging in trade and diplomacy, and building alliances.

bringstheeagle Colorado
12/17/15 9:46 pm

Exactly - I couldn't agree more.

4boot LaTrineodeur, MN
12/17/15 9:21 am

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
12/17/15 6:34 pm

He'll fire a lot of people. And that's a good thing.

gonzoboy Arizona
12/17/15 7:06 am

"Yes", if there actually is this "political class" narrative, it's surely a false one. Carson not only speaks to his perceptions, but also to the Constitution. The Constitution makes no such requirement of prior political service, or even wisdom for that matter, as prerequisite for serving as President.

Wackacrat Harford County
12/17/15 4:21 am

I don't know. Obama wasn't that great and he didn't have any experience.

12/17/15 6:56 am

He was the senator of Illinois

12/17/15 1:50 pm

"The Senator of Illinois"?? Is there only one now?

12/17/15 7:08 pm

Really? No. You get my point though.

12/17/15 4:17 am

There is a reason that every President has either had political experience or come from the military. They don't have to be lifelong career politicians but being the Commander in Chief and head of the executive branch of the world's most powerful nation should require a basic working knowledge of government.

12/17/15 1:56 am

Wow! He said something that isn't completely stupid!

trav Instagram, travisdover
12/17/15 12:24 am

Well, obviously actors make pretty good politicians

TheLib New York City
12/16/15 11:08 pm

I agree with the statement, but he's still a lying idiot.

tbelltwin2 Georgia
12/17/15 8:35 am

How? Obama and Hillary lie more than anyone else on this planet

TheLib New York City
12/17/15 11:15 am

You do realize that I'm talking about Ben Carson. He's been proven to be a liar, and the majority of his autobiography was fabricated. He was never offered a scholarship to West Point, he never tried to stab someone, he wasn't caught in a theft at popeyes, he was never a violent person.

But go ahead, change the subject.

12/16/15 10:30 pm

I agree that we need an outsider. HOWEVER, I strongly disagree with the idea of a someone who has very little policy or political knowledge, like Carson, being our president. An ideal candidate would be someone like Rand Paul who has both impressive political chops AND major outsider status.

Spiritof76 USA 1776
12/16/15 9:38 pm

I agree. All you need is energy, confidence, wisdom, character, integrity, common sense, and knowledge of US/world History, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and every Supreme Court decision since 1776. Few politicians possess half these qualities.

kman101256 Princeton, WV
12/16/15 9:21 pm

Ben Carson? Who is that?

Cole12 ...
12/16/15 9:31 pm

Nobody important.

asdfghjkl24242 Los Angeles, CA
12/16/15 9:14 pm

Did democrats vote no just for the sake of disagreeing with something a republican candidate said?

veritas1 Panda
12/16/15 9:23 pm

It's almost as if some people believe that the most politically influential person in the world should have an inkling of political knowledge and wisdom.

scrpnHOG Arizona
12/16/15 9:03 pm

So someone who was in the senate for two years is more qualified than a CEO of a large business?

Praetorianus Fair enough.
12/16/15 9:33 pm

The CEO certainly is qualified to lead and manage but would have to rely heavily on aides for some time to learn what the president can do and how he does it and how the whole system works. The senator already has experience with top tier politics.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
12/16/15 9:37 pm

I still agree with Carson, mainly because of the word ONLY. A CEO or such has the general qualification to lead, and if he's a fast learner can fill the position.

12/16/15 8:58 pm

Looks like Democrats hate term limits.

12/16/15 9:40 pm

Yeah, what?

bringstheeagle Colorado
12/17/15 9:52 pm

Hey there SF good to see you out and about.

12/17/15 10:10 pm

Hey brings, good to see you too.

DoctorWasdarb Marxist Leninist Maoist
12/16/15 8:24 pm

I agree, but I think Carson is an idiot.

obertar1 NY
12/16/15 7:56 pm

More BS. Anyone can run for president. It just helps to be a good liar.

MrWalrus Undergrid
12/17/15 3:17 am

We were shown that seven years ago.

12/16/15 7:49 pm

Ben needs to think before he speaks.

12/16/15 7:39 pm

I agree. Ironically, Carson wasn't given that sort of wisdom

12/16/15 7:23 pm

Go back to bed Carson

Hooah Fmr. Zia
12/16/15 8:39 pm

He's so sleepy.

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
12/16/15 7:21 pm

Reagan wasn't part of the political class

veritas1 Panda
12/16/15 8:24 pm

Yes he was. He was a governor

12/16/15 9:16 pm'll ruin the myth with the truth.

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
12/17/15 6:24 pm

Just because he was governor before he was President does not make him part of the political class.

12/17/15 8:36 pm

Anyone find it ironic that the only people asserting "class" in this discussion is the Right?

How Orwellian.

ZaQ777 Pittsburgh
12/16/15 7:18 pm

I'm not sure exactly who he's referring to when he says 'political class', but I do think the vast majority of people are no where near as smart as they think they are. I'd estimate that significantly less than 1% of 1% of people in this country have the ability to be president.

12/16/15 7:10 pm

I agree with the statement, I however do not think he has the wisdom to be the President.

12/16/15 7:09 pm

Boy, the Righties have really changed their tune since '08. But they're still totally full of shit.

Korosensei Maine
12/16/15 6:52 pm

No he's just a dumbass

12/16/15 7:05 pm

Gotta love the Internet.

Agonist Iowa
12/16/15 6:51 pm

How can a brain surgeon be so stupid?

mhillsman Oklahoma
12/16/15 6:53 pm

How is he stupid? You may not agree with him but that doesn't mean he's stupid

Brookee woo pig
12/16/15 7:40 pm

You can't possibly think Hillary or Bernie are smarter...

Agonist Iowa
12/16/15 7:45 pm

Joseph built the pyramids to store grain for the Egyptians, huh? That's just for starters.

veritas1 Panda
12/16/15 8:25 pm

Hillary and Bernie are undeniably smarter when it comes to politics. Carson has no understanding of any issue.

chance Sirnotappearinginthisfilm
12/17/15 1:37 pm

And that's why Bernie and Hillary are so bad. Because that's the only thing they understand.

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
12/16/15 6:43 pm

I agree with Carson here. There's a lot of average joes out there that would make excellent CINCs. However, I don't think Carson is a qualified outsider.

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
12/16/15 6:42 pm

Do I agree that it's a "false narrative?" Nope. Is relevant political experience necessary to be President? Absolutely.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
12/16/15 6:38 pm

Definitely. The trend seems to be everyone who gets on that stage, no matter what year, what age, what party, seem to have no idea what the fuck they are even talking about. Career politicians know one thing, how to get votes. It's not really their job to educate themselves, otherwise half the shit were into right now wouldn't be happening.

kcthinker Kansas City
12/16/15 6:32 pm

What is the definition of political class?

RJ1969 SoCal
12/16/15 6:40 pm


Ebola1 Florida
12/16/15 6:27 pm


cato Santa Barbara, California
12/16/15 6:13 pm

Of course I agree. In fact the truth is the political class is totally incompetent. We have 100 years of proof!!!!

arborfamilia on top of the hill
12/18/15 6:38 am

You know we are the assholes who keep electing them, right?

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
12/18/15 11:06 am


12/16/15 6:09 pm

This is one of the areas where I wish the executive was either meritocratic or split somehow between domestic and foreign affairs. While I agree that the area of politics and power should not be monopolized by the political elites, I cannot support the head of our military not being from within its own ranks or specifically trained to be the commander and chief. Its unfathomable and terrifying leaving our strategies, armaments, command decisions, and the very lives of our soldiers in the hands of someone completely non-qualified.

Crawdaddy11 LEGEND of FIRSTS
12/16/15 6:04 pm

Yes just look at Don Trump he's living proof that Carson is correct.

Ebola1 Florida
12/16/15 6:28 pm

Trump is not of the professional political class.

Crawdaddy11 LEGEND of FIRSTS
12/16/15 6:39 pm

I know read the quote again

Maj Worth Economist
12/16/15 6:02 pm

I would argue it's not wisdom and ability. It's experience dealing with the system. The system is complicated and takes a while to master.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
12/16/15 5:57 pm

Completely. All we are looking for in a new hire is aptitude. Those junior senators that try to act like they're all that showed up in DC knowing zip, and know only slightly more, at best, than what any other citizen knows about being president after their time there. Less in some cases, it appears.

12/16/15 6:00 pm

Are you talking about Obama.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
12/16/15 6:04 pm

I was thinking of the Cruz-Rubio twins, specifically.

Ebola1 Florida
12/16/15 6:29 pm

Obama would illustrate your point perfectly.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
12/16/15 5:51 pm

Clearly it's true as evidenced by how our country is so screwed up.

rons WOKE is sick
12/16/15 5:45 pm

Just look who's commander now!