To maintain U.S. continued military edge over China and Russia, Pentagon wants at least $12 billion to fund Artificial Intelligence based weapon technology in 2017. Do you find this a good use of taxpayer dollars?
AI weapon technology to me, simply means a program designed to see the psychological traits of human behavior and arrest you before you commit crime. Like the movie, Minority Report... Every hate crime leaves a before and after bread crumbs. I support it.
Great way to spend money... I vote for Robot teachers, police and politicians... All can be honest robots!!!
What exactly AI do they have in mind.
Asia, what part of AI don't you get?
If the Pentagon wants it, they'll get it. The rise of the machines.
Instead of spending MORE money,spend less and spend smarter.
"Send in the droids."
We are the #1 biggest spender of military spending in the world. In front of China! We need to cut our military spending down by a lot
It keeps the sickos at bay...
Ted(carpet bomb)Cruz is pro life. He wants to aimlessly bomb ISIS. ISIS is not a country or in just one country. Would Ted's strategy kill at least one innocent civilian?
Ted is Dumb cause he talks war and isn't even a Veteran. To kill Isis. Give them an island and let them have their way of life.
Terminator is coming
Leave the military to the experts.
Speak softly and carry a big stick
We already spend to much on the military as it is!
And not nearly enough on education!!
So you suggest that we fall behind the other countries and become weaker and less prepared than this president has made us already? Also, MONEY has been proven not to be the silver bullet to improve education. The fix for education must come from the home. The parents must do their jobs BEFORE a teacher can teach a child.
Captain... I was mocking him because he used the wrong "to/too" I don't agree with cutting defense spending whatsoever
Ok... Fair enough 😊
Fair enough lol😉
Isn't that how Skynet in Terminator began?
Its gonna turn on us. Why would I pay for that?
I was extremely septic sk at first but after reading the article, yeah I would give it a shot.
12 billion dollars to mantain in the pentagons ego?! I'll pass
Lets just continue to spend until all of our budget is spent on military!
It's a little misleading since the $12B is for a variety of programs not just AI. The list of programs sounds like normal DARPA funding and the article didn't say if this is new funding ir just continuation
*OR just a continuation of existing funding and programs.
There are all sorts of movies detailing the dangers of self-controlling weapons, but the main concern really is that these weapons can be hacked by the enemy and then the code rewritten so that it will attack us instead, or just not attack at all.
Which is why we need to make the best ones.
Everyone is saying Skynet but I'm still excited about Fallout 4 so I'll say Roboco and Vault Tec 👱🏼👍🏼
Ai is useless. We will still need the same old grunts as before. Ai will never match the creativity of the human mind.
Yes I'm ok with that because I believe we need to develope AI for other reasons.
either that or the arabs will get us
Do we really want to give the Chinese hackers a target like this???
I was going to post the same thing... All kinds of bad implications here.
I am for defence spending, but AI is dangerous stuff. Hawking, Musk, and others have warned us of its dangers.
AI that could decide to go in for a kill on its own is dangerous. The day humans are outwit by machines means they are no longer in control.
Well this'll be about the most unpopular answer in the thread: I think it's kind of like climate change. It might seem a waste of money now, but there might come a day when we deeply regret not investing in staying ahead...
While I think that the military is ridiculously over bloated, if we can inadvertently advance technology at large while funding the military, I'm for it
Why don't they take it out of their massive military budget!?
Our military is already larger than China, Russia, and 8 other countries combined. I think we're more than ok with what we have
Are you high? Our military is not that big. You should probably pay a visit to google.com and ask who has the largest military.
Ik we don't have the biggest standing army, but we spend more than the next 10 countries combined
That doesn't make us larger.
Good idea bad price tag. The pentagon has consistently shown over the last two decades that it does not spend money effectively. Serious reforms should be taken so that the Pentagon may become far more efficient and ultimately spend less money.
True but a lot of that $12B goes back into the economy and employs civilians, subcontractors, suppliers for parts, and multiple other types of services. Taxes are paid on that money and it's paid back to the local state and fed gov. Circle of life. Lol
The pentagon does not get to choose what to spend on. The vast majority is mandated by congress.
It's not so black and white. Pentagon puts together a budget. Congress agrees. President signs. Congress gets broad categories - not individual line items. Pentagon gives out money to the branches, the commands and programs. I have some financial understanding of how it works in the DOD. I work for a working capital command, we pitch our services to the DoD FMS other agencies etc for RDT&E for the STEM areas. There is some flexibility as long as it fits time purpose and amount statutes in each program. The budget process is at a much higher level at Congress.
Skynet, here it comes
Sure why not it's only a dozen billions
That's the opposite of what is good.
Uh, our military budget is about 5 times larger than China's. I think we're okay.
Really? China easily has over twice the active and reserve forces the U.S. has, a large ICBM capability, they are running SSBN patrols, have anti-satellite weapons, are building the Spratleys into armed fortresses and are cyber attacking us daily.
Your statement makes it seem like you doubt me. It is common knowledge that America has a more powerful (or at least more expensive) military that greatly surpasses China.
Americas geographic location makes the Chinese reserve forces pretty invalid. Anti missile defense is probably our biggest concern.
There it is! "Let's arbitrarily compare the US military budget to other countries while ignoring geography, threats, history, resources, technology, etc etc etc". There are people whose job at the Pentagon is to think about what they do and don't need money for and they know congressman don't wanna give them any money because of armchair generals that want freedom without taxes.
Use what is in the military budget now
What could go wrong
We don't need that garbage to fend off either of them, just a good navy. Let the European part of NATO pick up the slack and bring their militaries back up to reasonable strength. That would be deterrent enough.
You realize the only reason they aren't is because we've essentially handed our strength to them? They have no reason to spend and build those things up when we already have it covered for them.
Which is why we should reduce our military investment
No disagreements here
I really don't think the same clowns that want to spy on our every move while at the same time prove over and over and over they can't even protect their own data much less ours should be given the money to develop autonomous weapons, because they really do seem dumb enough to do just that if we let them. And then they'll be all like "Huh, did not see that coming" when the things go Skynet on us. Or even more likely, when they get hacked and are used against us.
Figures... Republicans are for it while everyone else is against it. This is why Libertarians need to take over the GOP - they actually make sense next to Democrats
Those people are RINOS and sadly some speak for the party. The Republican Party supports a smaller gov and I would certainly oppose this vehemently if I were in power and refuse to enforce the law on this issue and if i was a state leader I would call for a revolution/secession because of the infringement of rights
Because robots are spooki and you would prefer us to lose the next world war..
Our military is strong enough way surpassing the others we do not need to fight computers if the project goes wrong
We're still far ahead of them
I'm anti-defense spending hikes, but we're falling far behind in the Artif. Intelligence race and AI tech can help the people a lot as well.
SkyNet Funding Bill?
Has no one seen terminator?
Pentagon or Halliburton?
Or General Dynamics.
Sure, $12 Bil is just chump change in the US budget...our military must keep its technological edge.
Let raise taxes now!
Sky net anyone?
There is no fate but what we make ourselves.