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Show Of Hands August 17th, 2015 1:27pm

Do you think e-cigarettes are just as unhealthy as traditional cigarettes?

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Preox Earth
08/28/15 2:47 pm

They are a bit better but it's a cigarette so it will never be health.y.

Octopus
08/21/15 3:21 pm

Probably not *as* unhealthy, but still unhealthy regardless. We still need to wait for more conclusive research to be done, though.

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karv34 philadephia
08/21/15 10:18 am

Better alternative to traditional, but don't do e cigarettes for "fun" because you look like a fag

erg10964 Chicago
08/19/15 6:19 am

They're not as bad for the people around you, which is huge for me(nonsmoker).

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AJ13
08/18/15 10:44 pm

I just read a scientific study on vaping, and that the nicotine levels can be amped up easily to a point of overdosing. Not only that but the additives are just as toxic as smoking a cigarette.

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rambo088 kansas
08/19/15 5:54 am

Lol no you can't overdose on nicotene. And the ingredients are perfectly safe.

ishetconfetti
08/24/15 5:40 pm

Actually you can OD on nicotine, drinking a whole bottle of the highest nicotine leveled juice and it can poison you.

rambo088 kansas
08/24/15 5:42 pm

No nicotene isn't supposed to be ingested, that's not an overdose.

blackgambit 02143
08/18/15 12:33 pm

E-cigarettes are very unhealthy but not as unhealthy as traditional cigarettes. It's like getting your hand smashed with a hammer vs a sledge hammer, stay away from both.

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/18/15 12:02 pm

To ask a really stupid question, to anyone who uses esmokes. do you get addicted to these things? I'm trying to get my sister to try it. She barely smokes as it is.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 3:39 pm

If it contains nicotine the answer is yes.

BobbyMulk ACAB
08/20/15 7:23 pm

Yes, but it is much easier to quit vaping than it is to quit smoking. The addiction is not as strong.

singkitty In the cloud
08/21/15 4:11 am

I'm not sure how accurate Bobby is. In certain types of pens you can decrease the amount of nicotine you take in however nicotine is addictive period and I do know people who started using pens to quit smoking and are now just addicted to the pens.

BobbyMulk ACAB
08/21/15 5:28 am

Well, of course if you amp the nicotine way up it will get you, but I have quit both and from my personal experience vaping was way less addictive. Also, you can kind of "ween" yourself with a vape.

BobbyMulk ACAB
08/21/15 5:31 am

And you can do it wile vaping the same amount of juice and just use lower levels of nicotine. If you are used to vaping juice with 12 mg of nicotine you can drop from 12 to 6 to 3 to 0 and once you get used to 0 mg you can basically quit anytime.

singkitty In the cloud
08/21/15 5:35 am

I think it's definitely easier to ween off of than cigarettes. Congrats for quitting!

ran4sh
08/18/15 11:53 am

The most relevant aspect is whether they are unhealthy for innocent bystanders.

ran4sh
08/18/15 11:54 am

No one has the right to smoke, but everyone has the right to breathe cigarette-smoke-free air.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 4:03 pm

Pure air isnt a right

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 4:04 pm

There is no tar like in cigarettes from second hand, and it quickly dissapates so no

ran4sh
08/18/15 4:40 pm

Of course pure air isn't a right, but most pollutants are byproducts of things people actually use, e.g. exhaust from vehicles or power plants. Smoking is nothing more than "I don't care if I make your air dirty as long as I get the smoke I want."

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 4:41 pm

Then don't stand by them. Ecigs don't produce smoke either

ran4sh
08/18/15 4:44 pm

I have the right to enter and exit buildings as necessary. Cigarette smokers must not smoke near doors.

royalt77
08/18/15 8:01 am

E-cigarettes take out the most unhealthy component, tar. To think it would be just as unhealthy doesn't make much sense to me.

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dajafa Everywhere
08/18/15 5:50 am

I can name all FOUR ingredients in the liquid I am using. Kosher medical grade nicotine, all natural vegetable glycerine, vanilla extract, and linalool. Try naming all the ingredients in any other cigarette, other than American Spirits.

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dajafa Everywhere
08/18/15 5:53 am

Next, please understand that vaporizers use a PHYSICAL change to evaporate the VG to enable inhalation. Cigarettes use a CHEMICAL change to release SMOKE to inhale. Show me the medical data of one person dying from cooking pasta and I will hush.

dajafa Everywhere
08/18/15 5:55 am

Because boiling water is the same principal of vaporizers. It initiates a PHYSICAL change in the water so it is still water. Yes, if you buy a cheap liquid and vaporizer you run the risk of unhealthy vapor, eg all the "studies" that say it is bad.

dajafa Everywhere
08/18/15 5:58 am

My PV is guaranteed, waranteed, and my liquid is all natural, made from only FDA approved ingredients that are used in many GRAS products, with the same nicotine that nicorette uses. Yes, nicotine is bad, but to compare cigs to vapes is moot at best.

susanr Colorado
08/17/15 10:14 pm

Probably not, but at least tobacco is a known problem. We really don't know what is in all the e-cigarettes.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 2:39 am

Why would they be? No smoke—> bo particulate matter. No particulate matter—>no massive risk of lung cancer.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 4:51 am

The ones that contain nicotine are chemically addictive. They can explode and cause permanent damage which I didn't really believe until it happened to someone I know. They are not without risks.

dajafa Everywhere
08/18/15 5:48 am

You get what you pay for. Buy a cheap e-cig, run risks.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 6:33 am

They don't explode unless you're a dumbass about it

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 3:37 pm

I agree that you get what you pay for but there's also the fact that these aren't very regulated. Rambo the individual I know personally who had this happen is no more of an idiot than any other individual that uses ecigs.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 3:41 pm

No, there explicit warnings that sellers and the packaging states. You NEVER hold the button down for more than a few seconds, depending on the ohms of the build. It's also dangerous to leave them charged or on in your pocket. No need to judge

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 3:42 pm

All users because of your irresponsible friend.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 4:00 pm

If these ecigs come with SO many warnings that pretty well proves my point. They can be dangerous.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 4:02 pm

Cars can be dangerous too if you don't use them responsibly

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 5:15 pm

Maybe but they don't come with a laundry list of warnings so there's that big difference.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 5:16 pm

Did i say there is a laundry list?

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 5:19 pm

"If these ecigs come with SO many warnings that pretty well proves my point."

Not really. All it proves is they are considered easy targets for lawsuits.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 5:23 pm

Ha. I read that as cans not cars. (Smudge on my phone). Cars are obviously more dangerous. People die in accidents everyday. I don't see how the danger of cars negates the warnings on ecigs.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 5:26 pm

As doopy said, these warnings exist to prevent lawsuits

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 5:26 pm

The fact that they can explode in your face is the reason they slapped with law suits. Lol

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 5:29 pm

Yeah you can also kill yourself when pointing a gun at your face. That shit only happens when you use it incorrectly.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 6:04 pm

Blowing your face off with an ecig because you put the battery in upside down by accident isn't as obvious as pointing a gun to your face and pulling the trigger. Your comparison is ridiculous.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 6:09 pm

Point is, using accidents as an excuse for something being "dangerous" is just retarded. You can shoot your face accidently easily, but not if you're responsible.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 6:15 pm

Hey I'm not saying these need to be banned or are particularly more life threatening than other things I'm just pointing out the CAN be hazardous. Adults can pick what hazards they put themselves in.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 8:46 pm

Blowing your face off with an exploding E-cig battery is as difficult as blowing your face off with an exploding Walkman battery. It can be done, but it's extremely rare and batteries are designed to be difficult to explode.

singkitty In the cloud
08/19/15 4:37 am

Yes they're so rare I could spend the rest of the day sharing links about all the cases and reports in the subject.

singkitty In the cloud
08/19/15 4:39 am

Now if it's the same as a Walkman (which who is using Walkmans?) you should be able to site at least three links that say so...

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/19/15 9:41 am

"Now if it's the same as a Walkman (which who is using Walkmans?) you should be able to site at least three links that say so..."

No. No one's using Walkmans. Of course there wouldn't be three links about them blowing up.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/19/15 9:47 am

Your own link describes these accidents as extremely rare, with just 9 serious burns amongst 2.5 million users over a period of five years. The sun is more dangerous than that!

singkitty In the cloud
08/19/15 10:17 am

Hey you're the one that wanted to compare them to Walkmans. Of course these incidents aren't happening all the time but they do happen and it's a risk you take. That's all I'm saying and have been saying the entire time.

singkitty In the cloud
08/19/15 10:18 am

I've seen someone with most of their teeth taken out so there's no convincing me personally that these are 100% without risk. Good day.

bigtaterman Kentucky
08/17/15 6:41 pm

They're still unhealthy, just in a different way. Water vapor isn't supposed to be breathed into your lungs. That's how you get pneumonia.

finbe
08/18/15 9:14 am

Have you ever taken a hot shower? The steam from it is, believe it or not, water vapor.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 4:06 pm

Ban humidity! It causes pneumonia!

ArceusBlitz Left wing Libertarian
08/17/15 5:54 pm

They're bad but not as bad as regular cigarettes

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bringstheeagle Colorado
08/17/15 4:42 pm

Probably more so. Technologically enhances cancer sticks.

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rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 4:44 pm

Retard alert

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/17/15 9:27 pm

You're right. The retards are generally the ones engaging in ad hominem arguments and name calling. 😂😇

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 2:42 am

Well, I'll alert you to myself. Educated dude alert!

The vast majority of cancer risk from smoking comes from the smoke particles, particulate matter, that get trapped in the lungs like super fine dust. Vaporizers do not produce smoke.

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 4:42 am

Yeah I don't think ecigs are 100% risk free but their dangers are different from a regular cigarette. I've never met anyone who had a cigarette explode in their face destroying their teeth.....both have their own health risks.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 6:32 am

E cigs only explode if you're trying to

singkitty In the cloud
08/18/15 6:06 pm

Nope ecigs can explode by accident.

rambo088 kansas
08/18/15 6:10 pm

Yeah, if you're a dumbass and don't know what you're doing. Your point is moot.

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/18/15 8:29 pm

Thanks Doopy - I didn't know that. I'll need to do some research. If you have recommendations I'll listen.

singkitty In the cloud
08/19/15 4:28 am

Putting s battery backwards is an accident and can happen to anyone not just a dumbass. Your comment is moot.

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/19/15 7:49 am

Followed kitty.

rambo088 kansas
08/19/15 9:03 am

It's an accident caused by not knowing what you're doing, throwing my words back at me doesn't mean shit lol

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/19/15 9:55 am

CAN putting a battery in backwards happen to anybody?

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/19/15 10:33 am

Seems that's a safety flaw that requires attention and could probably be fixed easily.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/19/15 10:35 am

Not really. Putting batteries in things backwards runs a risk of causing them to explode. Do you read the warning labels on your batteries? This is universal.

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/19/15 10:39 am

Okay didn't know that but I'm very careful about assuring batteries are properly installed correctly. Interesting example is my Apple mouse - just changed batteries yesterday and both AA batteries face the same direction. I thought that was unusual.

rambo088 kansas
08/19/15 10:49 am

Mods - ecigs that usually have detachable batteries have it labeled where you put the positive/negative terminal. On mech mods it shows in the instructions. Hell most of the digital ones won't even operate if it's in backwards.

ThomasK
08/17/15 4:11 pm

Just as stupid? Sure. Just as unhealthy? I don't believe so. We'll see in 20-30 years.

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Striker1435 Texas
08/17/15 3:11 pm

Common sense would tell you that we don't know just how unhealthy e-cigs are. Real cigarettes have been around for over a century but e-cigs have only come around in the last decade or so. We haven't done enough medical research on e-cig effects yet.

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rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 3:31 pm

"The AIDs cure is unhealthy, it's common sense, it's only been around 2 hours we don't know the long term effects"

Striker1435 Texas
08/17/15 3:47 pm

Your satire might actually be funny if you didn't see e-cigs as the "cure" to smoking real cigarettes. Alas, you only sound tired and ignorant. The only "cure" to cigarettes is smoking nothing at all instead of e-cigs that are only half as unhealthy.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 4:05 pm

Yeah try to tell heavy smokers to just quit,that'll help. You're the ignorant one thinking going cold turkey works.

Striker1435 Texas
08/17/15 4:24 pm

People are stronger than you think. You assume they have to quit cold turkey. I know of many people who were able to quit by using nicotine patches and gum. But saying that it's better to go to e-cigs than quitting altogether is kind of a cop-out.

Striker1435 Texas
08/17/15 4:25 pm

No one takes you seriously anyway, bro. You compared e-cigarettes to the cure for AIDS. Just go home lol.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 4:43 pm

E cigs can cure addictions to nicotene dumbass. I never said you have to keep vaping. You can get a variety of nicotene levels and lower it with time. Gum and patches aren't less dangerous.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 4:44 pm

If you want to be taken seriously, actually know what you're talking about

Striker1435 Texas
08/17/15 4:45 pm

Do what you want, man. Keep puffing away for all I care. I've got a party to go to.

selectyour San Diego
08/17/15 2:43 pm

It was proven that they are just as bad, if not worse, in the New England Journal of Medicine. Case closed.

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rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:46 pm

Lol bullshit m8

selectyour San Diego
08/17/15 2:48 pm

Dude. Go look it up. 10 puffs from a 5 volt vape has almost double the formaldehyde compared to a cigarette.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:51 pm

Funny how formaldehyde isn't an ingredient in eliquid, or in any way formed from the heated liquids. Look up the ingredients i listed below.

selectyour San Diego
08/17/15 3:09 pm

It's created by the heating of the liquid. Would you like the link to the article in the most prestigious medical journal in the nation?

selectyour San Diego
08/17/15 3:11 pm

and if that doesn't work, the title is Hidden Formaldehyde in E-Cig Aerosols

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 3:26 pm

They found no formaldehyde at normal levels, then cranked up the pen to 5 volts with 3-4 second puffs, which is very long. With those pens you are never supposed to put the volts up to 5.0 , it will burn the coils and taste like shit. Especially

selectyour San Diego
08/17/15 3:28 pm

I guess you kind of have a point... the risk is still there though

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 3:29 pm

When you overheat it. The study also failed to mentioned the ohms of the coils, which determines how hot it burns. You will also burn the coils when you press the button and don't inhale, as it needs airflow to work properly.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 2:44 am

"It's created by the heating of the liquid."

It's created by OVERheating the liquid. To achieve their results, they had to modify their vaporizers to produce heat well in excess of design parameters.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 2:45 am

Otherwise, there were practically no harmful chemicals.

PurpleIdeas
08/17/15 2:23 pm

You can smoke all you want, i'm living my lung-disease life all the way past 45. Yes, that includes you e-cig smokers, bless your diseased heart.

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rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:26 pm

Funny how they don't cause heart disease

elcondor Rural Southern Indiana
08/17/15 2:21 pm

I wager that almost all of the "Yes" votes came from non-smokers who don't have a clue.

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Esha
08/17/15 1:39 pm

They aren't very well regulated.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:26 pm

Just as it should be

brinrawson Knoxville and DC
08/17/15 1:37 pm

I said yes because we don't really know the long term effects. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how it compares to smoking. It's not good for you either way.

UnknownCynic
08/17/15 12:11 pm

I think they're still unhealthy, but much better than regular cigarettes...

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JHawk3205 MD
08/17/15 10:27 am

I haven't gotten sick once in the 2.5 years since I quit smoking and started vaping. Smoking is bad for dental health and hurts your immune system, not to mention throat and lung health.

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JHawk3205 MD
08/17/15 10:23 am

Wtf?! Water vapor vs actual smoke? Smoke that is loaded with thousands of known carcinogens?? And water vapor is somehow just as dangerous?! Grow up Murica, grow up

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curly
08/17/15 10:25 am

Yea agreed. There's still nicotine of course, but e-cigarettes are just so much cleaner.

JHawk3205 MD
08/17/15 10:30 am

I just love how NYC banned vaping outdoors in public. As though somehow it actually poses a sliver of a risk to others, even indoors, and there's no litter.. Face palming so hard

hotroder Nebraska
08/17/15 11:01 am

And what of the mold growing in your lungs

getupbaby South City
08/17/15 12:05 pm

Moldy lungs? I'm going to need a source for that claim.

izck rural Illinois
08/17/15 10:15 am

I recently took evidence deposition of two board certified pulmonologist where this question was at issue. (One for plaintiff, one for defense) Both of them thought e cigarettes, from a lung standpoint, were benign.

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izck rural Illinois
08/17/15 10:15 am

I recently took evidence deposition of two board certified pulmonologist where this question was at issue. (One for plaintiff, one for defense) Both of them thought e cigarettes, from a lung standpoint, were benign.

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KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/17/15 10:04 am

Do they regulate e-cigs?

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johnnycub Bronx
08/17/15 2:01 pm

They do. The FDA have just started regulating months ago.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:28 pm

Not good. Now they're gonna get taxed.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/17/15 2:41 pm

Rather than have god knows what in people's lungs?

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:46 pm

We do know what. I listed the ingredients below.

Neptune A planet far far away
08/17/15 9:58 am

I vape daily but I was never huge into cigs and I feel like it is better but that being said I still plan on quitting vaping soon.

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rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 9:29 am

USDA grade propelyne glycol and vegetable glycerin, alcohol based flavoring, pharmaceutical grade nicotene. Those are the only ingredients in e-liquid.

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ronderman North Carolina
08/17/15 8:57 am

As long as they are healthier second hand, I don't care. I won't smoke them. They are much more pleasant second hand though.

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MJSeals J.D.
08/17/15 8:53 am

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CDay007
08/17/15 8:49 am

Not as bad but still bad. (Also they're mouth fedoras)

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bnnt Los Angeles
08/17/15 8:49 am

Addicting yes. Unhealthy no.

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tidford My little piece of heaven
08/17/15 8:48 am

Smoking of any sort is a gross, unappealing habit demonstrating a weak mind. Still, the evidence seems clear that e-cigs are not nearly as harmful to the smoker, second hand smokers or the immediate environment.

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thelowend imitation is flattery
08/17/15 10:54 am

"weak mind"?

read some actual studies about addiction and causes, epidemiology, etc. please - that's a very ignorant statement.

Moralsuperior southern USA
08/17/15 2:42 pm

To put anything that's doesn't heal your body is stupid. Only a weak person would smoke. Smoking, dipping and all others things is inferior.

thelowend imitation is flattery
08/17/15 3:46 pm

moral - see my previous comment re: ignorance.

thanks.

realslimshadayy
08/18/15 1:25 am

If you state that consuming anything that doesn't 'heal' the body is ignorant..Then why not put down that diet coke and sugary/fatty calorie dense food? Your basically calling everyone who's ever had ice cream ignorant. Calorie dense food is horrible

thelowend imitation is flattery
08/18/15 7:59 am

please don't put words in my mouth. my original point was stating or implying anyone with addiction has a "weak mind" is ignorant. period. it shows a very poor understanding of mental illness and health.

realslimshadayy
08/18/15 11:42 am

Most people are biologically prone to addiction though. It's just those who happen to stumble into a trap that find themselves stuck. Calling them ignorant may not be accurate because their logic is overridden by compulsion.

thelowend imitation is flattery
08/18/15 2:49 pm

kman - you're not reading my original point.

it's ignorant to call people addicted to something "weak-minded". significant studies have been done on this. that's all.

corino Utah
08/17/15 8:40 am

There is an advertising campaign trying for years to convince the public it is a more healthy alternative to smoking. Unfortunately studies are starting to show the rate of smoking has not dropped.

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corino Utah
08/17/15 8:41 am

The same amount of smoking + a "less damaging" smoking alternative is not good for public health.

Diknak Ohio
08/17/15 8:48 am

There is another campaign funded by big tobacco to spread lies about them claiming they are super dangerous. Are they good for you? No. But not nearly as bad as cigs. But soda is bad for you too. . . I don't see people trying to get those banned.

Korosensei Maine
08/17/15 8:39 am

For your body probably not but since people who smoke them look like idiots you must consider social health risks

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/17/15 8:36 am

Early research suggests they are much safer, maybe even hundreds of times safer. The potential downsides seem relatively few, especially for the the nicotine-free variants. Probably not good for you, but probably not very bad for you either.

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trav Instagram, travisdover
08/17/15 8:36 am

E-cigarette users aren't putting tar in their lungs. Everyone who thinks e-cigarettes are just as unhealthy are wrong.

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corino Utah
08/17/15 8:35 am

No. But just because a ball-pean is smaller than a sledge doesn't mean you should get in the habit of hitting yourself in the head with hammers.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/18/15 2:50 am

I think it's a mistake to correlate the category "breathing things" with the category "hitting yourself with hammers".

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
08/17/15 8:22 am

No. I think vaping is *less* harmful, but still harmful. I put vaping and smokeless tobacco in the same category. I wouldn't do either but anything is better than real cigs.

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koz8019
08/18/15 6:48 pm

I heard that chew or smokeless tobacco is actually worse

liamavo2 Texas
08/17/15 8:13 am

My view is that e-cigarettes are good for smokers. I had a boss who smoked a pack or two a day and when she started e-cigs, that decreased dramatically. It is however bad for non-smokers because it acts as a gateway to smoke actual cigarettes.

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rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 9:31 am

It's not a gateway. If you vape a lot a cigarette will make you cough your ass off.

johnnycub Bronx
08/17/15 2:04 pm

It haven't been a gateway to me. I've always hated cigarettes and vaping haven't changed my mind in that.

realslimshadayy
08/18/15 1:28 am

I've been vaping for nearly 2 years now and have noticed no significant difference... From immune health to sports performance (cross country). I will vape, but I will NEVER in a million years touch a cigarette. Vaping doesn't smell like shit

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/17/15 8:09 am

I don't know, but I picked "Yes". I just don't see how inhaled nicotine & the other chemicals can be healthy. I know that betweenness asthma & allergies that I can't tolerate traditional cigarette smoke. I don't know about this vapor, because I

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BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/17/15 8:11 am

haven't been around it. I do know that I don't plan on trying them. I think time will answer this question better than any of us.

Diknak Ohio
08/17/15 8:13 am

they don't even have to have nicotine, but the real dangerous parts of cigs are the carcinogens (which causes the odor). Vaping doesn't have any of those carcinogens and the smoke is odorless water vapor. The correct answer to this question is 'no'

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/17/15 8:31 am

I'm still not risking it for myself. I'm not planning to avoid someone vaping, like I do someone smoking, but I'm not trying it either.

Diknak Ohio
08/17/15 8:45 am

I agree. I've never smoked anything, cigs, vaping, weed, etc and I have no intention to start. But I've been around vaping and it's really weird to see smoke come out and not smell anything.

rambo088 kansas
08/17/15 2:25 pm

If you get the ones that blow big clouds you'll smell it. Usually smells fruity though

crowsfeet ohio
08/17/15 8:07 am

I feel better using the vapor. Not sure if is better.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
08/17/15 8:03 am

No. Science says otherwise.

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gonzoboy Arizona
08/17/15 8:07 am

Okie, you're an e-denier... 😝

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
08/17/15 8:24 am

I deny that without reservation. I tried making a reservation, but the place was booked.

TiredofIt Texas
08/17/15 8:02 am

Not even close. "Smoke" is much safer than "water vapor".

TiredofIt Texas
08/17/15 8:03 am

Lol WORSE not safer my bad!!!!

Diknak Ohio
08/17/15 8:04 am

I was wondering. I thought maybe you worked for a cigarette company or something.

TiredofIt Texas
08/17/15 8:06 am

Lol no. I switched them around and wrote it wrong! Whoops!

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
08/17/15 8:02 am

It's not really something to "think," it just is. Of course.

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jvc1133 61535
08/17/15 8:00 am

Idk, but if you're adding nicotine, you might be adding danger.

CudOfCow Oregon
08/17/15 7:58 am

Nicotine is nicotine. Its arguable but as an ex smoker I think the most harmful substance in cigarettes is the nicotine and it's super addictive nature. For a $3k+/yr habit...it just isn't worth it.

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CudOfCow Oregon
08/17/15 8:00 am

If you want to quit, you need to stop feeding your brain cells nicotine. Make the commitment and quit cold turkey.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/17/15 9:44 am

Actually, nicotine is one of the least harmful things in cigarettes. It's effects are exceptionally similar to caffeine and caffeine addiction. No, the bad stuff in cigarettes are the other 600 chemicals in them, none of which are in e-cigs.

CudOfCow Oregon
08/17/15 9:48 am

Sure, but without the nicotine, they wouldn't be a problem. People wouldn't spend 20-30 years smoking something they don't even have any interest in. It's the addictive chemical that causes the harmful dependency and health problems.

CudOfCow Oregon
08/17/15 9:49 am

No one really says it's bad to smoke one cigarette. It's the life long addiction that kills people.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/17/15 10:20 am

But, this poll is a comparison between cigarettes w/around 600 chemicals to water vapor w/around 3 FDA approved chemicals. Nicotine is the only common denominator & what I'm saying is that an addiction to nicotine alone w/o the 600 chemicals is not

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/17/15 10:20 am

actually that bad for you. It's not much different than an addiction to caffeine. The problem lies entirely in the distribution method. Cigarettes as a nicotine distribution method are extraordinarily harmful. E-cigs as a distribution method aren't.

CudOfCow Oregon
08/17/15 5:15 pm

I see your point. I guess in this case it comes down to the definition of the world unhealthy. I think it is an unhealthy lifestyle to be addicted to a drug that costs so much, and also unhealthy to be addicted to a use method that kills you.

CudOfCow Oregon
08/17/15 5:16 pm

I wonder if nicotine has any medicinal health benefits.

thelowend imitation is flattery
08/17/15 5:18 pm

actually - yes...well possibly.

there's evidence in some studies that show nicotine may help prevent the development of Parkinson's disease and amyloid plaques seen in Alzheimer's type dementia.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/18/15 9:48 am

Yes, I second that statement. There are still further studies to be done before they'll take nicotine to market for health treatments, but I fully expect it to be used to treat a host of neurological disorders in the future. If you're interested in

ChristianREsq OC, CA
08/17/15 7:58 am

I smoked for years and switched to vaping. I no longer have a hacking cough, when I spearfish I can hold my breath substantially longer, working out and surfing don't make me hyperventilate, and I don't smell like cigs! All around win!

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