David is biologically a man, however he has a strong "feminine side" and chooses to identify as a woman. Is David a man, as his/her biology dictates, or a woman, as he/she chooses to identify?
Sex = male
Gender = female
I feel like I'm a NFL quarterback though I'm really not. If I tell everyone that I'm a NFL quarterback, then am I a NFL quarterback? Or, am I a liar and/or crazy...?
I'm a tyrannosaurus rex.
If he's actually transgender and identifies as a woman, than u wouldn't mind calling her such. Life is too short to raise a fuss and piss them off over such a trivial thing.
*I wouldn't mind
If David is living as a woman, then she should be viewed as such.
Why are so many of you guys judgemental? Why can't people do whatever makes them happy?
Why are you so willing to ignore a person's mental illness and deny their need for treatment? Gender dysphoria is, by definition, a form of anxiety and/or depression, which deserves real treatment, not just pretty clothes and makeup.
And where would we be as a society if we let everyone just "do whatever makes them happy?"
Wait. Tomorrow I was gonna be a grizzly bear. So...no?
Ok, within the context, it does not affect you in any way. It really doesn't. So why betllitle them? Why demonize them demonize? Who cares if they transition, it doesn't affect you.
First, it's a big assumption to make to say it doesn't affect me. You don't know that. Secondly, recognizing mental illness for what it is doesn't belittle or demonize. You're perpetuating the stigma of mental illness to say so. That's insensitive.
Inform me if how it affects you if someone saves up the money and pays for their own gender re assignment surgery. Do you even know anything about this topic? Whether it's a mental illness or not doesn't matter. Transitioning gets rid of their
depression and suicidal thoughts (if they have any)
For the first article, I couldn't get past the part where the author (which, BTW, has no credibility on reddit; could be anyone) says it's easier to give in to the mental illness than treat it. That's an absurd justification for SRs.
It's someone who is actually trans, and accurately reflects how they feel. Also the American Psychological Association says it's not a mental illness but I figured you'd ignore everything that you don't agree with.
Johns Hopkins stopped doing the surgeries because long-term effects on the patients no longer outweighed the initial benefits.
For them I'm sure
So original question you never answered, why do you care if people transition? How does it affect you what people do with their own money?
And a 30-year study in Sweden finds increased mental illness among post-op transgenders after 10 years, with a suicide rate 20 times the general population. I believe you're the one ignoring evidence.
This is an issue for our entire society. Plus, I have kids and I'm responsible for their health and wellness til they're 18. I have to be informed on these issues if I am to seek appropriate treatment for any illness.
And yet the post op depression is highly likely to be from non acceptance in society, from people like you. Same with the LGBT community and coming out.
Again, if a man decides to become a woman, how does that affect you? That's their
open decision that they're making for themselves.
Why should I care if my neighbor spends his money on illegal drugs? Why should I care if the woman on the corner prostitutes herself? Because we are all part of this society. That's why.
We are all apart of this society. That doesn't just include you and your morals. That reasoning is absolutely ridiculous. That's the same excuse people made against the gays.
Also that's an incredibly vague answer to a very specific question. Elaborate or try again.
Listen, I've had fun messing with you, but now I'm done. Transgenderism isn't a moral issue; it's a mental health issue and we need to address it as such. Homosexuality is neither. I don't confuse these two topics and neither should you.
She is a woman and should be recognized as such (gender /= sex). And being a trans woman is not about having a "feminine side." It's more than just seemingly aligning with various gender stereotypes.
Please see my helpful flow chart below.
Yes, thank you for your oversimplification (you discount intersex) of biological sex. David's gender identity meanwhile, is a separate issue.
"Intersex" is a genetic mutation. It's not normal and wouldn't be considered as such.
Blond hair is a genetic mutation, what's your point? I'm kidding around a bit here, but I wasn't claiming my comment was a complete and detailed analysis of biological sex and gender identity. Just pointing out that matt's isn't either.
Blonde hair is not a mutation so there's no analogy to be made there.
It did indeed arise as a genetic mutation. But I digress, it's unimportant to the discussion.
Actually it's not. It's a standard phenotype for a human. Nevertheless, the subject in question is a gender identity disorder. Disorders require medical treatment for correction, not continuation of the disorder.
Being trans isn't a medical disorder however; there is no indication that being transgender itself causes psychological distress.
a mental or bodily condition marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, and emotions to seriously impair the normal psychological functioning of the individual—called also mental illness
That fits transgenderism quite snugly
There is nothing to suggest transgenderism impairs normal psychological functioning. Regardless, I am more inclined to align with the American Psychiatric Association and various medical studies. It is even suggested that for those trans individuals
Who do experience severe dysphoria, physically transitioning is an effective treatment.
He's a man. If people really cared about him they'd help him get in touch with his male side and deal with his mental problems instead of playing along.
Winner winner chicken dinner!
Hey just leave me out of this😡
Nom nom nom.
I agree. It's like a child telling you they have an imaginary friend and you continue to play along even as they become an adult.
Why do we socially care one way or the other. The only times that gender should be relevant are when choosing who to have kids with (you must discover which gender you are and pick someone who is the other one to do it with) or...
Times when you are going to be removing whatever cloth coverings you have over your sex organs in a public place and it has been deemed unacceptable to do this around people who don't have the same stuff that you have down there.
If I want to have a kid, I can only pull that off if I partner up with someone who actually is a woman. A man who identifies as a woman isn't going to be able to give birth to my child and I am not going to be able to give birth to his/hers.
David is biologically a male, but socially a female.
The idea of male/female dichotomy has both physiological & sociological aspects.
This is proven by the differences in male/female roles across cultures.
Biologically, David is male. Socially, David is Female & should be treated as such if she wishes.
Has a Y chromosome
Best answer of the day
I like to keep it simple and easy to understand, ya know? Thus, I've provided this helpful and peer reviewed flow chart.
Pictures make it easy
I don't care how many hormones you take, how many surgeries you have, your DNA will not change. You will always be the gender you're born as.
But what if you wear a really pretty dress and spend a lot of money on high heels?
Then you are a really feminine dude.
Or a cross dresser.
Or "metrosexual" (the "scientific" term for dudes when they're actin like chicks). Lol
He is unquestionably a man. His DNA will tell you that. And that's all that matters.