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Mattwall1 August 16th, 2015 9:40pm

Would you generally consider Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi Jews to be white or non white?

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BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/17/15 9:26 am

I have no clue what those mean... I just assumed Jewish ethnicity is white.

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gow488 Wisconsin
08/16/15 9:30 pm

Someone's religion doesn't define what race they are

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Mattwall1
08/17/15 1:51 am

Jewishness is ethnoreligious

FacePalm That Trick Never Works
08/16/15 8:00 pm

I have never associated race with religion so I cannot answer. Is there a racial difference?

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FacePalm That Trick Never Works
08/17/15 2:48 am

I understand that Jewish is an ethnicity as well as a religion. I have heard Jewish described as a "race", but not in the same manner as "black" or "white" which is generally based on skin tone, and other physical features.

FacePalm That Trick Never Works
08/17/15 2:52 am

It is my understanding that enthnoreligious groups place more emphasis on religion and practices than skin tone or geographic origin.. So I still don't have a good answer other than I presume some are white.

Mattwall1
08/17/15 2:55 am

I agree overall, but given that some do consider Jews white and some don't, usually based on how exactly one defines whiteness, I figured I'd ask

MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 6:51 pm

Matt, this is a great question. I particularly identify with this question because of my Sicilian heritage. Often, in the early days of their immigration, Sicilians were not considered white not only for their coloring but their status $$.

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PresWK Minnesota
08/16/15 6:19 pm

Ashkenazi Jews are even Caucasian Europeans

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
08/16/15 5:02 pm

Higher melanin concentrations than your average Caucasian.

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tsd715 New York City
08/16/15 4:54 pm

I don't know much about Mizrahi Judaism, but Sephardic Jews are often darkish in complexion. I'm Ashkenazi, though, and we're not all orthodox. Ashknazi is just the geographical term for Jews ancestrally from Central and Eastern Europe.

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ozzy
08/16/15 4:42 pm

All. Sephardic Jews are often quite dark

evoecon nearest binary system
08/16/15 4:21 pm

What is the relevance of the question?

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Mattwall1
08/16/15 5:04 pm

It's often part of a debate as to whether whiteness de notates skin tone only or history and social status as well

evoecon nearest binary system
08/16/15 5:50 pm

So part of the "white privilege" genre of racial discussion?

Mattwall1
08/16/15 5:52 pm

It crosses over, but it isn't inherently exclusive to it

JJJSchmidt San Marcos
08/16/15 3:28 pm

White but only if they speak with a western accent.

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rons screw politicians
08/16/15 4:44 pm

Howdy thar buck_-a-roo!

JJJSchmidt San Marcos
08/17/15 6:45 am

Not exactly what I meant. But I guess it'd count :P

MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 3:58 pm

Would you consider North Africa. Jews to be Caucasian?

smarttexan More Moderate Than U
08/16/15 5:17 pm

If they have a western style look, most likely. Many Europeans and Americans have some North African in their genetics. I do. About 4 percent.

MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 2:50 pm

This is a hard one. While many Ashkenazi (which my husband is) and Sephardic Jews has Northern and Southern European heritage respectively, many don't really follow the same classifications as we have here. The Mizrahi Jews of Northern Africa,

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MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 2:51 pm

Wouldn't be considered white by our standards. I think the term white is subjective and doesn't apply to all. That said, what do you think Matt?

rons screw politicians
08/16/15 3:05 pm

Larry King looks white?

rbrown Kansas
08/16/15 3:46 pm

What do you think Larry King looks like?

MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 3:54 pm

Larry King is probably Ashkenazi which is Northern European.

rbrown Kansas
08/16/15 3:57 pm

Yes, but Robs seems to disagree.

MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 3:57 pm

By our standards, he's pretty white. His dad was Austrian and his mom from Belarus.

rons screw politicians
08/16/15 4:42 pm

So, to the question. ASHKENAZI is white.

MrsCrayonWax
08/16/15 6:49 pm

Possibly but then Sephardic and Mizrahi might be darker.

CDFL alt right, alt snowflake
08/16/15 2:41 pm

Uhh...whatever they feel like being considered

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