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EarlyBird Portland
08/12/15 7:13 pm

You do not have a right to anything that involves another person.
Having sex is not a right.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/12/15 6:45 pm

As are all of the other basic bodily functions, yes. Sex with another human, though, is a right limited by the overriding right to decline.

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RB20 Indiana
08/12/15 6:33 pm

You don't have a right to another humans services in any instance

Vayl Reason over common sense
08/12/15 6:14 pm

Think about it. If it were considered a right, that would mean that if a man is unable to find a female willing to have sex with him, he would be obligated to rape someone. Otherwise, he's being denied a basic human right. Sex is clearly not a right.

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bobothenonkey
08/12/15 3:40 pm

If it was a right I would have lots of it by now. But it's not. So I'm lonely.

MarketSocialist
08/12/15 3:26 pm

The only right that exists is the right to your property (which includes your body). Every other right is just made-up bullshit, or it falls under this umbrella of property rights.

logicalphallus Minnesota
08/12/15 2:22 pm

I don't think so. There are lots of people who desire sex and can't have it. Do they deserve access to sex?

logicalphallus Minnesota
08/12/15 2:30 pm

We have food stamps and habitat for humanity for people who have trouble accessing food and shelter, and I don't believe sex is a necessity on that level.

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 1:45 pm

Yes it is a right.

That being said, we don't always get something because it is a right that we can have it. The right to own property and the right of free speech... We have these rights but don't steal or say anything just because we can.

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EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 1:55 pm

www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

Article 16...?

It ain't covered in dis one...

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 1:58 pm

You have the right to many things....as long as you don't violate someone else's rights.

Which is an easy an simple task to complete.

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 1:58 pm

You just shouldn't be an asshole...

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 2:14 pm

EARTH - this looked like the weirdest string in the world until I realized whoever you're talking to has me on ignore!

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 2:19 pm

Oh no... Bro I'm just talking to myself.

And addressing other threads...

smacc DunningKruger
08/12/15 1:32 pm

Wow, I did not see this question revolving around having sex with anyone I want regardless of consent. Seems like a paranoid leap.

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Isomax TIC TOC
08/12/15 1:03 pm

It's part of who and what we are. It's not a right or a privilege.

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Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/12/15 12:37 pm

Yes, in the sense that no one can stop you from pursuing or engaging in consensual sex. No, in the sense it should not be provided to you or guaranteed.

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greeengoddess Minnesota
08/12/15 3:02 pm

Exactly this.

smacc DunningKruger
08/12/15 12:30 pm

Yes, the pursuit of happiness.

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Komm No. I am your father
08/12/15 11:42 am

To be able to engage In it yes, to have it provided for you, no

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VoteLibertarian Marble Falls, Texas
08/12/15 11:35 am

If that were the case, the government would be obligated to provide everyone with a partner for sex, otherwise they'd be "deprived" of their "right."

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Maj Worth Economist
08/12/15 12:25 pm

You have the right to a gun. Is it government issued?

ronderman North Carolina
08/12/15 12:36 pm

Great point Maj.

jdecker8887
08/12/15 12:37 pm

Having the right to something is not the same as it being a human right. You have a right to own a gun but the govt won't provide you with one. Whereas water is seen as a human right but the govt will provide you with it.

Maj Worth Economist
08/12/15 12:39 pm

The government doesn't provide you with water. It provides you access to water.

jdecker8887
08/12/15 12:41 pm

Yes, which is essentially what I meant. They won't do the same thing with guns.

Maj Worth Economist
08/12/15 12:46 pm

??? I can go up the street to the gun shop and buy a gun. I'm not sure what the difference is.

jdecker8887
08/12/15 12:49 pm

Yes you can do that. Maybe I I put it like this- Human rights tend to be things that you need to survive. Food, water etc. The govt will try its best to get you access to these things, food stamps etc. Yes you have the right to own and buy a gun but-

jdecker8887
08/12/15 12:50 pm

-you don't need one to survive, their isn't a government provided way to get one.

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 1:16 pm

I think this string is getting bent around the axil on mixing up human rights, legal rights, and (US) constitutional rights?

VoteLibertarian Marble Falls, Texas
08/12/15 3:17 pm

Yea, human rights and lawful rights are not the same thing, though they do occasionally overlap. However, in this case, sex is not a human right - it's a lawful one. (freedom of association and consent)

nsmith Suck on my freedom
08/12/15 11:25 am

What is a human right is freedom of choice. So if both people consent, sex is definitely a human right.

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deist
08/12/15 11:02 am

Spousal rape is still rape and a crime.

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MrMilkdud
08/12/15 10:57 am

No, because that would obligate someone to have sex with you.

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MrMilkdud
08/12/15 11:00 am

Wait, that would only apply if it was a positive right.
It is a negative right, insofar as it's an innate ability that the government can't infringe upon unless you're hurting someone else.

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 10:46 am

I do not see how it possibly could not be.

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ronderman North Carolina
08/12/15 12:38 pm

A 16yo doesn't have the "right" to have sex with a 25yo.

In most states, I don't have the "right" to charge money for sex.

Just two examples I can think of.

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 12:53 pm

RON - the 16 yr old absolutely does. The 25 yr old does as well, but may be criminally prosecuted for exercising it. This is actually a part of a larger interesting debate. Human rights do not always align with legal rights. Identifying the gaps is

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 12:55 pm

Tricky because my view of HRs may be different than yours and both of ours may be different than say someone from Thailand because of culture. The flip side is the argument that there is no such thing as a "human right." There are only the rights

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 12:58 pm

Legally permitted by the society one resides within. This side would argue that the right to life/lib/poh is a false construct.

As is usually the case, I am philosophically somewhere in the middle.

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 1:03 pm

As there are very few (and by few I mean probably none, but I'm leaving the door open just in case there's one out there I can't think of right now) things I pursue & have pursued as hard to make me happy as sex, i gotta go with this one being a HR.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
08/12/15 10:46 am

It is in that the government should not be permitted to tell people when, how, or with whom they can have sex.

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ronderman North Carolina
08/12/15 12:41 pm

But they do, most states have laws on the books telling you what kind of sex is allowed (they are seldom enforced). Also, the state says I can only have one wife. Not exactly the same thing, but in the same genre I would say.

mathew1034
08/12/15 10:44 am

No, you should have a right to control your own body. However you should be free to consetually engage in sex as you please but its not an entitled right.

sydwel
08/12/15 10:40 am

Yes, in that the government should not have the power to determine what consenting adults do in the bedroom.

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kspells TheOtherOtherside
08/12/15 10:34 am

OMG! You're killing me.

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Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 1:13 pm

KS - go exercise your human rights! You'll feel better!

kspells TheOtherOtherside
08/13/15 5:48 am

So much better.

JDoe Its a gift
08/12/15 10:30 am

I read it differently. If it's two consenting adults, that's their right.

If it's a privilege, is there someone other than the participants granting that privilege (govt or church)? Sounds like justification for making some (homosexual) acts illegal

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bs75758 Michigan
08/12/15 10:13 am

I'd consider it a privilege. You don't have the right to have sex with anyone you want. It's a privilege that another person lets you have it with them and vice versa.

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Loryn41 great falls Montana
08/12/15 9:51 am

It like saying for example " did you ever kiss someone that is the opposite sex" another meaning for sex is describing female or male like the question

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/12/15 9:48 am

With regard to one's self, sure.
With regard to someone else, no.

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Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/12/15 11:31 am

I said yes, I believe it is a human right.

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/12/15 11:43 am

Why thank you! 😊

ronderman North Carolina
08/12/15 12:42 pm

I was leaning that way myself. Thank you for putting into words for me.

JennaF sunflower state of mind
08/12/15 12:56 pm

What do you mean, "with regards to one's self"? Could you expand on that please?

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/12/15 1:00 pm

Sure Jenna, at the most basic level, masturbation. But further, what you want & are willing to engage in, provided it doesn't infringe on another, is your right (as in no one has or should have the ability to interfere with that). Is that clearer?

JennaF sunflower state of mind
08/12/15 1:04 pm

Yes that makes sense. First I was thinking it would be rape-y to think of sex as a right but since you mentioned that said right can't infringe on the rights of others, it makes much more sense. Good point.

PyroSadist like my comments follow
08/12/15 9:45 am

Sounds like a rapists defense. "She wouldn't fuck me...but having sex is my right!"

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JohnnyHelvetica
08/12/15 11:36 am

Exactly, if it were a right than the woman would be in the wrong. Sex is definitely a privilege.

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 1:42 pm

Property is a human right...but thieves don't use that as a defense.

JohnnyHelvetica
08/12/15 1:58 pm

Yes they do. If they believe they are entitled to take it, they will.

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 2:00 pm

They violate someone else's rights to satisfy their own which is wrong.

PyroSadist like my comments follow
08/12/15 2:23 pm

Property most certainly is not a human rights. However it is a right to be able to keep property that you have bought and earned. But you do not have a right to someone else's property

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
08/12/15 4:44 pm

Who doesn't have the right to own property?

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
08/12/15 1:11 pm

JENNA - My argument would be that having sex is a human right. Not having sex is every bit equally a human right as well. The desire of one to engage in the former does not trump the desire of another for the latter. Make sense?