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Show Of Hands December 20th, 2012 12:00am

If guns were outlawed, would you comply with the law (i.e. hand yours in and/or not try to purchase any)?

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piratef2004
12/27/12 4:55 pm

The gun ban would be overturned because of unconstitutionality issues. But if it did happen, I would.

Threeper301 Gilbert, AZ
12/26/12 11:13 pm

"I was born with a shotgun in my hands. Behind the gun, I'll make my final stand." -Bad Company

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Herm31812 Pennsylvania
12/25/12 11:27 pm

Try to take my guns, I dare you. You'll have to pry it outta my bloody hands.

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jamjay Atlanta, Ga
12/25/12 2:24 pm

Good people should not the only ones unarmed. Bad people will have guns.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:29 pm

It's interesting that significant portions of the 'Union' states would hand their firearms in, and significant portions of the 'Confederate' states would not. Maybe the South will rise again after all. ;)

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:26 pm

The right to resistance is not dependent on the Second Amendment. But the Second Amendment sure does make it a hell of a lot easier to resist if need be.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:22 pm

Parts of the military would rebel and bring their hardware with them. We would have planes, tanks, artillery and leadership on our side too.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:20 pm

The 'well-regulated' phrase in the Second Amendment is in reference being well-trained and disciplined. The meaning of 'regulation' then was not anywhere near the first thought that 'regulation' brings to mind today.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:14 pm

Palindrome, you're still approaching this from the 'stricter control' perspective. The question is "If guns (implying ALL guns) were outlawed..." Even Europe isn't that backwards (yet). If all guns were banned, there would be a massive citizen uprising. 25-50 million minimum.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:03 pm

I do agree that not nearly enough people are protesting the erosion of our 4rth amendment rights, due process, etc. We are absolutely in agreement on that. That's one area that the left, in the past decade, has defended much better than the right. Not do much anymore though, unfortunately.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 8:00 pm

I disagree, because people know that the prohibition of firearms only slightly precedes the prohibition of free speech/press/religion.

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:59 pm

And if you don't believe me, look at the polls. People support legislation controlling weapons. They support some form of ban. This isn't an issue the majority or anywhere near a majority of Americans hold as a "make or break" for them. Let's be realistic here.

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:58 pm

Especially not over 1 million Americans. People aren't that willing to kill, be killed, harm or be harmed. They aren't willing to give up all the conveniences of modern life in order to fight a law banning dangerous weapons like guns... That's wishful thinking.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:56 pm

But, as I said before, the real danger of a civil war is the opportunity that it presents to our enemies. It should be the absolute last resort once all political and diplomatic options for resolution have been exhausted.

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:56 pm

I understand what you're saying. But look around. I'm just being realistic. Most Americans can't even be counted on to protest when our rights to due process and privacy are being whisked away... Guns won't draw a 50 million force. It'll be lucky to hit 1 million. People aren't that willing to die

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:54 pm

I also believe that a significant portion of the military would rebel as well, and would bring their hardware with them. It wouldn't only be the hunters and recreational shooters taking up arms. See Syria or Libya for details.

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:52 pm

Right. But we are also subject to govt regulation

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:50 pm

The question was "If guns (implying ALL guns) were outlawed...". That means that there wouldn't be ANY legal guns. That is why I believe the numbers would be so high. In Wisconsin alone there are over 700,000 hunters annually.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:46 pm

The militia is the whole body of the citizenry. That's according to the Founders themselves. That includes you (presumably) and I Palindrome. We are the first line of defense against criminals, foreign invasion and oppressive government. It's awfully hard to do all that if we're unarmed.

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:42 pm

If people stop obeying the federal government and decide to start a second civil war- especially the people I see advocating for one right now- I'd be more than willing to suit up and join the military

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:39 pm

My money would say that vast majority of gun owners are rational people who respect and obey they law. They'd probably turn in their illegal weapons and keep the ones they can and continue on with their lives. The few rebels can have all the "fun" of life as a terrorist rebel

palindrome California
12/24/12 7:38 pm

Maybe. But I think 25-50 million people fighting over guns is way overblown. There aren't even that many people willing to join the military period. The amount of people willing to face off with the US government, turn their entire lives upside down and basically become terrorists would be very low

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:37 pm

That would be an un-Constitutional law, and as such, I would not obey it.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:35 pm

And by the way, the Founding Fathers said that we every able bodied male citizen should have a firearm "of the sort in common usage." These days, that's not only the AR/M16/M4, it's the .50, the 20mm, the AA missiles, and all the rest.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:32 pm

Palindrome, your ignorance is showing again. A .45 is only usefully accurate out to a couple hundred yards, tops. The average rifle round is useful out to 500 yards or better. I need military-grade weapons to keep the government and the military in check. I will not be a slave.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:28 pm

However, the real danger of a second civil war is the opportunity that it presents to our enemies to attack us when we're weak. The best way to avoid a civil war, and foreign invasion, is to keep your laws off of my guns.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:26 pm

Even with drones, the bloodshed would have to be extreme for the Feds to win. And extreme bloodshed against American citizens would spark outrage on a national scale and motivate another 25-50 million Americans to take up arms.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:24 pm

I disagree palindrome. I believe that a total gun grab would set off a second civil war. I'm willing to bet that between 25 and 50 million Americans would take up arms over this issue. That dwarfs the US military's membership.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/24/12 7:17 pm

That is my line in the sand. The day guns are outlawed is the day that I become an outlaw.

3acn
12/24/12 4:24 pm

This is the map that the XXX government will use to overthrow the US.

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centexken Republic of Texas
12/24/12 1:22 pm

The government would be the criminals in this case.

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Fact Fact
12/24/12 6:01 am

I think the same thing. they tried it already in some city, chicago maybe. I recently went and cleaned out the 6 walmarts in my county. I bought about 7000 rounds.

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rebelfury76 F Trump, F his idiot cult
12/24/12 4:42 am

A 1000% ammunition tax will happen before mass firearm confiscation comes about. A shame too because I'll just get mine from ova' da borda...you know, black markets, those things that ALWAYS spring up when the government pathetically tries to "ban" something.

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rebelfury76 F Trump, F his idiot cult
12/24/12 4:33 am

It's easy to say yes when the question doesn't apply to them

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satiricalnick meh
12/24/12 12:52 am

In an ideal liberal society, you depend on the government to do everything for you. This includes protection, welfare, healthcare, and everything else. Go ask mexico how relying on the gov for protection worked out for them.

satiricalnick meh
12/24/12 12:45 am

That was well said. The dems just wait for bad things to happen to push their stupid shit through, while everybody is emotionally driven. When shit hits the fan folks, think rationally, not emotionally. This is a big problem in our country.

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satiricalnick meh
12/23/12 9:07 pm

Im a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment. You'll never take my guns, libs.

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JackTorS Clap you stupid bastards
12/23/12 6:28 pm

You actually make a bigger hole with a .45 than you do with a .223.

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palindrome California
12/23/12 3:26 pm

If you have to live like a fugitive, they've already won. You deprived of house and home, job and credit. You can't connect to the Internet (yay)... You're deprived of everything. If a ban came across the land, most- probably the vast majority- would turn their guns in.

palindrome California
12/23/12 3:24 pm

Lol we can track people down throughout the Middle East. In the vast expanses of the desert, in remote villages and in mountain hide-outs. If you're not hit by a drone, the sheer pressure of having to live like a fugitive will get you.
You. Will. Not. Win

palindrome California
12/23/12 10:36 am

Right. But that doesn't mean you need or are entitled to military-grade weapons. You don't need a AR-15. A .45 will work just fine. Keep a semi-auto pistol and its the same crap. You just want to make a bigger hole.

DrReid Ever present.
12/23/12 9:28 am

Glad to see republicans are criminals.

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centexken Republic of Texas
12/23/12 3:40 am

RJ, RJ, RJ, America is huge. The Feds don't have enough drones to take us all out. Maybe the Feds will hold the cities but my side will hold the countryside.

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Titothedog Texas
12/22/12 10:46 pm

"From my cold dead hands".

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zorthog The Republic
12/22/12 8:19 pm

It figures most democrats would turn them in. What a bunch of future victims of violent crime.

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trailready Maryland
12/22/12 6:56 pm

53% of you all are brilliant.

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kfillmore605
12/22/12 4:09 pm

This is not to say guns should be outlawed I think handguns are fine

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ladybug0
12/22/12 9:00 am

@RJ--It's not purely hypothetical. That is exactly where this current administration is leading and it is a horrifying concept to imagine. It is not an America I want to live in. I will not willingly give up my rights.

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