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JustBob August 3rd, 2015 12:21pm

Jan (15) stays over at a friend's house and wakes to her friend's 16 yo brother trying to molest her. She goes to the cops and no charges are filed. She's spreading the story at school. He goes to the principal to stop her. Should he silence Jan?

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Maulous Im so happy
08/09/15 8:36 pm

Maybe the 16 year old is Timmy from the future

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DeanGandley New York
08/05/15 7:05 pm

Yeah the principal should stop it. Even if it is true it could lead to bodily harm to the boy ( other guys kicking his arse ) which then the school could be sued. Even though the boy deserved it.

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McGreg0r
08/05/15 10:17 am

It's very unlikely a guy wouldn't get charged. Women often get away with fake rape cases for money while the man is thrown in prison and beaten and raped. It's disgusting.

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brinrawson Knoxville and DC
08/05/15 9:56 pm

Look up the statistics on how many rapists are actually convicted and jailed before spreading this nonsense. Also look up the statistics on how many rape allegations are estimated to be false. (Hint: not many in either situation)

mk9900 Pennsylvania
08/06/15 6:18 am

the statistics show that only 3% of rape ACCUSATIONS are false, while 10% of all rape accusations are prosecuted maybe you should stop perpetuating rape culture and read up on the facts

RedHale Texas
08/05/15 4:50 am

Wow, vastly different results than when the genders were flipped. And democrats try to claim they're for 'equality'. Seems like libertarians are the most indiscriminate party here.

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Tariq88 Utah
08/04/15 11:50 am

No, of course he would want to silence her but no the simple answer is no. She should not stay silent. By the way I think this might have been the easiest poll question I've had to answer by justbob.

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mk9900 Pennsylvania
08/04/15 10:25 am

he molests someone and she's in trouble for "ruining his image"?? sickening honestly that even a small amount of people believe she should be silenced

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RedHale Texas
08/05/15 4:52 am

What's even more sickening is three times more democrats supported the rights of the victim when the victim was a girl instead of a guy.

Suiram Texas, United States
08/04/15 4:56 am

No point in spreading rumors unless she's just finding escape in her friends.

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RedHale Texas
08/05/15 4:53 am

What about the next potential victim? Don't they deserve a warning?

Sentinel Ya ie wa noh
08/04/15 4:19 am

This deprivation has greater affects, psychological......These tendencies show a greater problem exists and need immediate medical attention, therapist, and or psychiatric treatment......She the victim of a crime......she needs avenues of address..

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OldAccount No longer active
08/03/15 11:58 pm

It depends how she's talking about it, if she's trying to slander him and make him hated then yes, but if it's just her trying to cope with it by telling friends, then I'll let her talk continue.

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catpillow Florida West Coast
08/03/15 11:19 pm

He'd better apologize to her, accept responsibility, and then try to be a better person.

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arollaatoris Nomad
08/03/15 3:06 pm

Absolutely not. And the perp has a lot of nerve to play the victim of slander after he sexually assaulted somebody. I guess he feels entitled to get away with what he did.

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arollaatoris Nomad
08/03/15 3:06 pm

If somebody has been through a rape/sexual assault, especially a child, he/she needs to be supported as much as possible.

arollaatoris Nomad
08/03/15 3:08 pm

And if the perp is upset she's talking about it, well I guess that's just a natural consequence for his actions. Maybe he'll learn not to sexually assault people.

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 4:27 pm

Amen. And its true. The guy that assaulted me actually bragged about it. Used the phrase "she didnt want to". Then acts all shocked when I call it assault. They somehow dont think what they did is bad.

Rotavele Alabama
08/03/15 3:00 pm

Yes.

Probably not a popular position, but I'm looking at it from the principals view. Younger females do like attention at that age. If she already can't get help, there's no good that can come from her spreading it amongst other teenagers.

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Rotavele Alabama
08/03/15 3:01 pm

From the girls view, I'd raise a ruckus and get my dad and grandparents involved after the principle did that (if the boy did do that).

Eventually with a ruckus raised, action can be taken against the pervert.

Rotavele Alabama
08/03/15 3:04 pm

In conclusion either way, spreading it amongst teens does no good. It becomes a trial by popularity. Usually by the unpopular one being bullied about it.

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 3:05 pm

I think its pretty insulting to say teenage girls just want attention, especially that way. Itd be like me saying teenage boys lose control all the time and molest. Why get only her male relatives involved? What year are we in?

Rotavele Alabama
08/03/15 3:32 pm

I'm not saying just want attention, I'm saying that female girls on average do like attention more than males and it COULD be that she's wanting attention.

Rotavele Alabama
08/03/15 3:32 pm

Secondly, because we live in a patriarchy and males are expected to be more protective. Therefore they will be more likely to cause a ruckus for the truth to come out.

Rotavele Alabama
08/03/15 3:33 pm

While I recognize and agree we need a social change: it hasn't happened yet. Situations like this aren't cases where it needs to be tested either as this is pretty serious.

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 4:00 pm

The she wants attention trope is really prevalent, and harmful. Does it happen? Sure. Its disingenuous to pretend the two are equally prevalent though. Being assaulted is damaging enough. How can a person heal without being able to discuss it?

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/03/15 1:35 pm

If it is causing problems in terms of safety for this guy, yes. Students have limited free speech protections in school and her talking is contributing to that. Other than that, no.

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aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 12:11 pm

No, same as with the genders flipped. Surviving a sexual crime is bad enough, having to keep it secret makes it worse. People seem to think you point a finger and the offender is jailed when they mostly go free.

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WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
08/03/15 11:56 am

Tell whoever. Seems like a Public Service Announcement to me.

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Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/03/15 11:45 am

Still, no silencing. I can't wait to see how close this comes to the other. 🌽πŸ’₯

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JustBob Your anger fascinates me
08/03/15 3:09 pm

I'm not seeing too huge a difference so far

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/03/15 5:07 pm

Much closer than I thought it would be, but it's still almost 10% difference than when it happened to the boy. Not sure if that should be as bothersome as it feels.

this is still 300 votes shy of the other poll, so things could still change.

Liberty 4,032,064
08/03/15 11:28 am

I'll say "no" because his guilt is given in the poll's premise.

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ran4sh
08/03/15 11:07 am

The accused is a minor. Public records such as newspapers routinely leave out the names of minors accused of crimes. Why should this be any different. Victim can tell friends, trusted people, etc but should not publicly reveal accused's name

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karv34 philadephia
08/03/15 9:16 am

She doesn't have the right to ruin his reputation... double standard by far where are these feminists yelling equality at?

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SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
08/03/15 8:15 am

Where are all of the people screaming "hurhurhur, I would have considered myself lucky if I was her, she must be gay, how could she not enjoy that? Duhhhh...."?

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SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
08/03/15 8:16 am

Holy Double Standard, Batman!

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/03/15 10:12 am

Yes there is a double standard. That's the reality

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 12:15 pm

There really is. Its incredibly sad, like can you not even grasp that a mans consent can be violated? I dont want to see any of those people complain about the double standard until they stop perpetuating it (not you guys obviously).

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/03/15 3:31 pm

I'm ok with the double standard. At the same time yes a guy can be violated this way as well. I know all to well. But I would say more often than not, the guy won't be saying get off. That's why the double standard exists

SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
08/03/15 3:59 pm

So just because most guys are pervs, those that aren't can just get raped?

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 4:02 pm

Blue- why on earth would you be ok with that? Also, what you are describing js consensual sex. If he wants sex, it is consensual. Rape and assault are without consent, and happen to boys and men much more than you think. This double standard silences

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/03/15 4:42 pm

I never said it's ok when the assault actually happens to a guy, and yes I know it does happen. I'm just saying that it does not happen as often, usually the guy is trying to get in her pants, which is why the double standard exists.

cclarke26
08/03/15 7:36 am

Sure jan

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tdkseth Texas
08/03/15 7:49 am

Lmao exactly what I was thinkingπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 12:16 pm

What, you would say she wanted it? Do you know what the word molest means?

tdkseth Texas
08/03/15 1:06 pm

It a meme aj

Kay41 the Midwest
08/03/15 6:50 am

The situation is the exact same and everyone should have voted as they did on the last poll. The gender reversal should make no difference in the actions of the principal.

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Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
08/03/15 5:09 pm

And yet somehow it does. πŸ˜”

Hello! πŸ‘‹β˜Ί

Kay41 the Midwest
08/03/15 6:41 pm

It's mind-boggling! 😱

Hi! 😊😊

STEVE64 Michigan
08/06/15 12:15 pm

I know! But i will totally admit that i read both and this just sounds so much different to me! I always liked to think i was completely fair and unbiased (i think everybody does) but i guess I'm not. At least I'm willing to admit it

commonsense America isnt racist
08/03/15 6:47 am

The principle should force jam to stop if she is disturbing the school or attacking the boy verbally on campus.

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iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 6:32 am

1st--There's no charge. Legally nothing happened. It's unsubstantiated. From a principal's view, it is a disruption to the school & he could suspend her for that. The boy could sue Jan for libel and slander--AND THE SCHOOL IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

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iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 6:34 am

If Jan feels as if justice needs to be done, beat him up. Or she can sue him in civil court for damages mental (?) which would be near impossible. Best to have him get a good beating in the parking lot and call it square.

spitfirejmw Alabama
08/03/15 8:19 am

How did nothing happen if she woke up to him trying to molest her?

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 12:18 pm

People seem to think all rapists magically end up in jail, so a victim must be lying if the attacker isnt jailed. Interesting considering literally one woman had her attacker jailed out of all Ive seen in support groups.

spitfirejmw Alabama
08/03/15 6:17 pm

It's scary we live in a society of victim shaming where they would rather hide that they got raped rather than see the rapist prosecuted

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 6:40 pm

The thing is, your chances of getting a conviction are really low. Endure a grueling rape kit, be interrogated about it with suggestions its your fault, detailing it in front of loved ones for nothing. To be called a lying bitch. Thats why so many

aj1545 Cat Lady
08/03/15 6:41 pm

Stay silent. All reporting accomplishes is retraumitization most of the time. Then, youre blamed for not turning him in and sparing yourself this. Its awful.

iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 8:56 pm

It's time for some Wasteland Justice 😑

Diogenes FreeMeBe
08/03/15 6:31 am

For the sake of parity, has to be asked, "Was he hot?"

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iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 6:36 am

I will allow the question as it is germane to the case. 😏

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/03/15 6:49 am

The double standard clause must be claimed, that question only works in the opposite scenario.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
08/03/15 9:58 am

You sound so straight, blue! This is the 21st Century and Bruce Jenner is not!

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/03/15 10:11 am

I don't know what bruce Jenner is

Diogenes FreeMeBe
08/03/15 10:42 am

Hence the dangling participle. ☺️

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/03/15 6:30 am

I see we finally got around to the role reversal.

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BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
08/03/15 6:31 am

By the way I'm not silencing either child.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/03/15 6:09 am

Just because the police didn't fully investigate or the case wasn't prosecuted doesn't mean it didn't happen. I'd no more tell her to stop accusing him than I would tell him to stop denying it, as long as they aren't disrupting classes.

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Posco BBQ Enthusiast
08/03/15 6:09 am

No, he should find her the help she needs.

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phen nebraska
08/03/15 5:55 am

Legally speaking to protect the principal and school, since no charges were files o can see the principal telling her to stop openingly talking about it

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chickencookie Jihad Joe
08/03/15 5:47 am

Where are the parents in this? Why is Jan all alone in this? Why would the principal ignore this story?

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rlands
08/03/15 6:01 am

Why wouldn't the principal ignore it? One of his/her students did something criminal...a principal would not want to advertise that.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 6:43 am

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greeengoddess Minnesota
08/03/15 6:48 am

Of course it's not the school's fault, but they can still offer both students counseling.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 7:08 am

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greeengoddess Minnesota
08/03/15 7:43 am

What?? Are you serious? How is offering counseling the same as parenting? Counselor have the specific training and education to deal with things like this. What is so wrong with letting the kids know that there are professionals available??

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 9:56 am

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chickencookie Jihad Joe
08/03/15 7:35 pm

Wouldn't the school contact parents or authorities?

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/03/15 5:40 am

This one is more believable

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/03/15 5:39 am

Not enough information. Was it really "molestation" or just a typically clumsy advance of a teen? I suggest no more sleepovers.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
08/03/15 5:40 am

If it was me though in her position: omg, welcome to paradise. Please molest me ;)

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
08/03/15 6:05 am

How much information would you really have as a principal? Unless you start interrogating both of them. All you have is a girl saying a boy is a pervert and a boy complaining about how it's making his life unbearable.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
08/03/15 6:30 am

As a Principle, I would see them both separately and then together. It's my responsibility to maintain order. Rumors will occur, but most kids at that age tend to embellish due to lack of experience.

iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 6:45 am

Well, at the worst it is "attempted" molestation...which is not much, especially if he is underage. Since the police have already been notified, the best for the principal is to separate them & order them to keep it to the law courts & out of school.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
08/03/15 7:12 am

I'm not sure I understand what attempted molestation is

iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 9:00 pm

Well...not much. The poll states "trying to" molest her. Soooo, making unwarranted advances?
Creeping creeper style?
Nefarious intent?
Evil glint in his eye?
Maniacal laughter?

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
08/03/15 9:12 pm

Oh shit it does, yeah that's friggin confusing. Kinda makes it seem like he was holding a finger inches from the gal chanting "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you." Totally my bad

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
08/03/15 9:16 pm

Let's go with molesting, but not in the money spots

iPolitix Political Party Animal
08/03/15 9:21 pm

Cha ching! πŸ’²πŸ’±πŸ’°

Diogenes FreeMeBe
08/04/15 3:36 am

So we've moved on to money shots! Badabing!

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/03/15 5:33 am

Silencing would be condoning

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 6:39 am

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jrpacman Pensum iocus est
08/03/15 5:28 am

I knew the results would be different when the roles were reversed.

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RedHale Texas
08/05/15 4:56 am

The interesting thing is, democrats were the party with the largest change. Their numbers nearly tripled in support for the girl, and they claim to stand for equality.

TierasPet
08/03/15 5:28 am

Yes but only because there were no charges, and it would be considered slander in a court of law. My personal opinion is, she should say whatever she wants to whoever she wants if it actually happened.

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08/03/15 5:23 am

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