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Do you believe that 9/11 was an "inside job" (intentionally done/permitted by figures in the United States federal government)?

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Bloodjunkie Oklahoma
08/16/15 5:20 pm

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams debra

ghostdad420
08/11/15 5:15 pm

yall should stop believing conspiracy theories.
"Bush did 9/11" started off as a joke then y'all took it too far like you always do.

mb45081 Texas
08/14/15 9:59 pm

It was only a joke when you truth deniers said it was

RasTrent
08/15/15 2:30 pm

It started as a serious thing then turned into a joke

mb45081 Texas
08/11/15 1:53 pm

Bush did 9/11 jet fuel can't melt steel beams

delta3204 CA
08/12/15 1:24 pm

Well when a plane flys into a building, with both huge engines exploding, and then jet fuel spraying all over the already damaged spot then it's possible. Jet fuel wasn't the only reason it came down.

paytonvdh Wisconsin
08/12/15 1:35 pm

It doesnt need to melt dumbfuck,steal is worked with by metal smiths at 2500 degrees and the average fire is 2000 degrees. With thousands of gallons of jet fuel that fire gets a few hundred degrees hotter, weakens it, and it collapses w/ the weight.

delta3204 CA
08/12/15 1:38 pm

That is true. All this damage happened at the exact same spot in the building and so the damaged floors can't hold the top floors. Once the damaged floors finally give in, it starts a chain collapse

paytonvdh Wisconsin
08/10/15 8:59 pm

My uncle is both a physicist and an engineer an he developed the exact equation proving it was 100% possible for the towers to fall with JUST the impact of the plane. His work was verified by some of the top minds in American mathematics.

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Freedom2016
08/09/15 1:32 am

It was us. Operation north woods

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Lightning85 Tennessee
08/10/15 5:44 pm

How do you know that onw actually exists? It seems to only be known by libertarians of the Internet.

mb45081 Texas
08/11/15 1:55 pm

It exists because it was declassified by the United States government in 1997. You would know this if you weren't a sheep. Look it up.

delta3204 CA
08/12/15 1:25 pm

Hey guess what conspiracy idiots? Operation North Woods never took place so it's not like the government did anything wrong.

RadicalJack Anarcho Syndicalist
08/08/15 2:46 am

Nah but it was a godsend to the neo-conservatives. They got the war they were looking for. Middle East/central Asia, here comes Murica hold onto your butts.

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lbeberg
08/07/15 1:25 pm

Bush did 9/11

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delta3204 CA
08/12/15 1:25 pm

Conspiracy idiot

gatsbyxxv
08/06/15 5:31 am

Anyone can claim conspiracy but fact win the case not conjecture.

delta3204 CA
08/05/15 2:46 pm

Hey conspiracy idiots. If it was an inside job, how come no one involved has went public about it? It would take over hundreds of people to pull this off and not a single person came forward to confess but with Benghazi which killed only 4 people,

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delta3204 CA
08/05/15 2:46 pm

CIA agents have already given interviews about being forced to stand down. If someone could go public about Benghazi then no doubt someone would definitely go public about 9/11. Wake up conspiracy theorists.

wethemiddle Los Angeles
08/05/15 7:35 am

I don't believe it, but I wouldn't be surprised either.

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BlackHoleSun
08/04/15 11:36 am

If you think that it wasn't an inside job, you need to wake up and stop being so ignorant.

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delta3204 CA
08/05/15 2:42 pm

U conspiracy theorists make up so much stuff just to make the government seem all bad and stuff

awkwardism dissent
08/04/15 8:22 am

If republicans are so fucking great why is their mascot the million dollar hairpiece Donald Trump? That's the real question. Is that biased?

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NukaCherry The Commonwealth
08/03/15 11:58 pm

2 words: Operation Northwoods

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FullFash Illinois
08/03/15 11:32 pm

Also look up "Operation Northwoods."

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delta3204 CA
08/05/15 2:43 pm

U mean the operation that never took place. Good job. Great thinking

FullFash Illinois
08/03/15 11:29 pm

Anyone who's skeptical can look up the 5 minute video "9/11: A conspiracy theory" on YouTube or look up the hour long "loose change documentary" on YouTube.

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Jabes
08/05/15 12:20 am

Most of the stuff the theories are based on are not true.

random12
08/03/15 10:01 pm

No Benghazi questions......no current events? Soh is fucken biased as shit

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Kyle15 Ragley,LA
08/03/15 9:33 pm

I don't think it was an inside job i just don't think they are telling us everything

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McGreg0r
08/03/15 9:28 pm

I don't believe it is but I wouldn't be surprised.

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ThatsSoReagan
08/03/15 9:06 pm

to all that say it was an excuse to invade Iraq, I really don't think the bush administration would go that far just for that reason. they'd come up with something like LBJ with Vietnam

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ThatsSoReagan
08/03/15 9:02 pm

can someone explain to me how it would be an inside job? and how it'd benefit us or Bush in any way? some one really, explain please?!

3VOLVE Michigan
08/05/15 12:41 am

Owners of the businesses in the collapsed buildings took out million dollar insurance policies on the buildings on 09-08-01, the day before 9/11. If I'm not mistaken, the US is an oligarchy, and those corporations are at the top.

centauri Pennsylvania
08/07/15 9:19 am

Bush had tons of money invested in oil, and it's quite a coincidence that once our source of oil is in danger something happens and we're invading

talbotfarwell Appalachia
08/03/15 8:57 pm

IMO the Saudis had an indirect role in influencing the hijackers through their support of Wahhabi Sunni Islam, and that the Saudi intelligence service had to have some idea. Ergo, it isn't hard to imagine that hawkish neocons politicians knew, too.

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thinkjailbreak North Carolina
08/03/15 8:43 pm

Many more innocent Americans were drafted into the Vietnam war and died fighting for a cause they didn't believe in. So will everyone please stop making such a big deal out of 9/11?

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ThatsSoReagan
08/03/15 9:01 pm

that's terrible

ThatsSoReagan
08/03/15 9:01 pm

commented on the wrong comment sorry

Libertarian1776
08/03/15 8:14 pm

Wake up, the government is lying to you and used 9/11 to invade Iraq.

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delta3204 CA
08/05/15 2:46 pm

Wake up. Y didn't they invade Iraq immediately then? It wasn't an excuse to invade Iraq

LordAF
08/03/15 6:59 pm

After actually doing some research myself, I have found myself quite skeptical of the events that actually ocurred and actually lean towards that it may have had inside involvement.
wtc7.net/articles/stevenjones_b7_051122.html

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LordAF
08/03/15 7:01 pm

The article above is written by a physics professor, explaining in depth why the events do not hold up scientifically.
Furthermore, there are incidents that, while perhaps not proving involvement, still prove prior knowledge.
Debate me if you wish.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
08/03/15 4:31 pm

I used to think anybody who believed 9/11 was an inside job was absolutely loony an had no brain, but then I talked to a very well educated one. Let me tell ya, they have some compelling points. I went from "No freaking way in Hell. Ever!" to

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
08/03/15 4:31 pm

Leaning yes.

rambo088 kansas
08/03/15 7:03 pm

Believing that it is possible is the hardest thing for people to accept, not just the details

elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
08/03/15 4:30 pm

Those who do are in need of a roll of Reynold's Wrap.

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rambo088 kansas
08/03/15 7:04 pm

"Tin foil hat hurr durr"

STEVE64 Michigan
08/03/15 4:13 pm

I do think that some of our leaders knew more about it than they said

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NIFTYxFELLA Indiana
08/03/15 3:52 pm

The holocaust is a lie

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NIFTYxFELLA Indiana
08/03/15 5:03 pm

Muh 6 gorillion. Lel.

NIFTYxFELLA Indiana
08/03/15 5:03 pm

Damn goyim

LordAF
08/03/15 7:02 pm

But muh 600 gorillion

LordAF
08/03/15 7:07 pm

3 shekels? You're gonna pay me 7 shekels to agree with you? 15 shekels is a bit little, right? Bump it up to 35 shekels and you've got s better chance. So, you got 60 spare shekels for me? Or is 75 too much?

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/03/15 7:15 pm

4chan is leaking

NIFTYxFELLA Indiana
08/03/15 7:30 pm

/pol/ is a lifestyle

Alidae Salem, OR
08/03/15 3:28 pm

Not orchestrated but perhaps allowed to happen to sway public opinion for Iraq war and the patriot act.

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sharbut98 IU
08/03/15 3:17 pm

Bush did it fam

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delta3204 CA
08/03/15 5:45 pm

U seriously r just conspiracy minded

blank2 Inside SOH
08/03/15 2:54 pm

7/11 was a part time job!

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badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:51 pm

Are the 911 conspiracy theorists the same ones that believe we didn't go to the moon and that jet contrails are chemicals?

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awkwardism dissent
08/03/15 3:31 pm

And that global warming isn't real

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 3:51 pm

Oh it's real. And so were the dinosaurs.

LordAF
08/03/15 7:04 pm

No, those are just generalizations.
I personally am skeptical of the events on 9/11 and I can assure you that the moon landing was real, planes don't leave chemical trails, and vaccines don't cause autism. Haha

thinkjailbreak North Carolina
08/03/15 8:43 pm

Technically jet contrails are mostly water, and water is a chemical

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 11:23 pm

Think is right. Contrails are mostly water vapor from the hydrogen components of jet fuel combined with oxygen to make water. A compound chemical. Not a conspiracy.

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 11:24 pm

Lord is right. But why skeptical about 9/11?

LordAF
08/04/15 12:38 am

@breck basically, just "do the physics really hold up, or was there need for/evidence of pre-set explosives" and "if it wasn't an inside job, was there prior knowledge?"
The former question is the skeptical part, the latter I confidently say yes.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/03/15 2:45 pm

If America wanted to falsify an event to go to war, there are MUCH easier ways to do it than 9-11. Total overkill on scale and killing 3,000 Americans.

It'd be like blowing up your school to get out of a test

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Peanut233 Amarillo, TX
08/03/15 2:43 pm

As much as I'd love to believe that my brothers went and died in Iraq to protect our country, I know better than that, and everyone else should too. Facts don't lie, and the fact that the government spent more on Nixon's sex life says something.

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badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:36 pm

Why would libertarians be such conspiracy theorists?

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/03/15 2:42 pm

It's 28%, which is not even in the ballpark of being able to group them together as an affirmative

It's also the smallest group, which means a larger statistical variance

LordAF
08/03/15 7:10 pm

Not to mention, "conspiracy theorist" is a bit of a generalization.
I mean, if you think your friends are hiding a secret, that is still technically a "conspiracy theory", right? Would you wear a tinfoil hat?
But regardless, demographically speaking

LordAF
08/03/15 7:12 pm

...it is true that generally people who believe in some sort of popularized "conspiracy theory" generally do not align with the two major parties hence the larger portion of libertarians/independents who said yes to the question.

LordAF
08/03/15 7:13 pm

Tl;dr lots of 'conspiracy theorists' are libertarian/independent.
It's kind of like how all squares are rectangles (but not all rectangles are squares).

deeboy39
08/03/15 2:00 pm

Bush doesn't care about black people. -Kanye West

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badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:37 pm

That's okay. Kanye doesn't care about white people.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
08/04/15 8:12 am

Kanye doesn't even care about black people. Kanye cares about Kanye

HitlerWasRight 4th Reich Now
08/03/15 12:56 pm

Steel memes can't melt dank dreams

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CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/03/15 2:43 pm

[citation needed]

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/03/15 10:58 am

No, not an "inside job".

An excuse to send thousands of Americans to an early death so Bush's biggest campaign contributors could make billions of dollars in direct, no-bid contracts? Certainly. This is exactly what happened.

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erika348 Texas
08/03/15 11:51 am

Good grief, no, it's not "what happened".

Axl752 NY
08/03/15 12:17 pm

Actually, this IS exactly what happened. Halliburton made 39.5 billion on the Iraq war. You know, that company which was run by Dick Cheney, who received a $30 million severance package from them a couple of years earlier.

Axl752 NY
08/03/15 12:18 pm

The automatic censoring of Cheney's name always makes me giggle.

erika348 Texas
08/03/15 12:29 pm

No it was NOT the reason, not saying no one made money, but it is NOT the reason we went. And yes, censoring His name is funny.

Axl752 NY
08/03/15 12:30 pm

Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks.

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:44 pm

Axle is right. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. But Bush and Cheney did organize 911. They just took advantage of the situation and profited. Those Saudis didn't need to be asked to kill us. They more than wanted to do it. That's an easier theory?

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:45 pm

Sorry. Damn auto correct. Bush and Cheney did not organize 911. They didn't have to.

Axl752 NY
08/03/15 2:56 pm

I agree, I don't think they did it, just capitalized kn the situation

Axl752 NY
08/03/15 2:56 pm

*on

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
08/03/15 9:08 pm

Some people don't understand what "no-bid contracts" are, apparently.

tlesane
08/03/15 10:35 am

"The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." - Malcolm X

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Will3295
08/03/15 10:30 am

Bush did 9/11

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badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:46 pm

He didn't have to. Those Saudis wanted to kill us. Bush and Cheney just took advantage of the situation.

delta3204 CA
08/03/15 5:47 pm

Please stop with stupid conspiracies.

awkwardism dissent
08/03/15 9:41 am

Do we really have any reason to believe either way. There are fact and then there is evidence and then there is motivation. The idea that someone would have a reason to think it was an inside job should be disturbing.

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tlesane
08/03/15 10:25 am

You should look at it from a scientific point of view. I think you would find evidence that will overwhelmingly contradict your current belief. It's a tough pill to swallow. Or you can subscribe to "ignorance is bliss".

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 2:48 pm

That's just ridiculous. Those people already wanted to kill us. We didn't have to ask them to do it. Bush and Cheney just took advantage of the situation and profited.

delta3204 CA
08/03/15 5:48 pm

The science was completely logical in how the buildings fell

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 8:37 pm

You mean of course how the building fell after the planes hit them and the burning jet fuel melted the beams till the building pancaked. The science explained it perfectly. The explosives explanation just isn't plausible.

delta3204 CA
08/03/15 8:57 pm

Jet fuel wasn't the only thing that brought it down. What about the weight of the building structure, fast planes flying in, and the plane engines exploding all in one single are of the building. Obviously the building can't hold itself up.

badattitude no place like home
08/03/15 11:18 pm

Delta is right. It all added up to "not a conspiracy"

Idkwhyimhere
08/03/15 9:28 am

I don't think bush was in on it but I think it was an inside job,it even has evidence towards my opinion

rambo088 kansas
08/03/15 8:39 am

Dolly Parton was an inside boob job

Diknak Ohio
08/03/15 8:28 am

Bush probably had nothing to do with it, but I bet he was grinning ear to ear when he realized he could use it as justification to go to war.

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rambo088 kansas
08/03/15 8:39 am

"Muh freedoms"

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 9:48 am

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JHawk3205 MD
08/03/15 10:32 am

Nema: pearl harbor had quite a few parallels actually. Top officials knew about it, much more than history books tell, and there's enough documentation to show we let it happen, and it was the perfect entry into war

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 10:55 am

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delta3204 CA
08/03/15 5:49 pm

No U.S. officials knew about Pearl Harbor. That's a lie. U can't know what the Japanese r doing when they use their military channels

rambo088 kansas
08/03/15 5:57 pm

Germany declared war on us, we didn't even know about the Holocaust

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/04/15 8:13 am

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rambo088 kansas
08/04/15 8:17 am

December 11th, 1941Germany declared war on the us. 3 hours later the us did the same.

akrealist a log cabin in the woods
08/03/15 8:06 am

I'd love to cross-reference:

Those who believe Bush orchestrated 9/11...

...With the same respondents who believe Hillary was innocent of wrongdoing surrounding Benghazi.

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TiredofIt Texas
08/03/15 7:56 am

13% of respondents are absolutely retarded.

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Axl752 NY
08/03/15 6:59 am

I don't believe that 9/11 was an inside job, but may have been preventable if the powers that be didn't have their heads up their own asses. But that being said I find it amusing that 9/11 conspiracy theorists are labeled as "truthers". Since when

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Axl752 NY
08/03/15 7:00 am

is seeking the "truth" a bad thing?

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
08/03/15 7:07 am

Since post 9/11 when emotions and nationalism overcome questioning and checking the government.