Are you a "birther" (someone who believes that Barrack Obama was not born in the United States)?
you can't believe everything you hear, just because you dislike him.
you saw his birth certificate, what more proof do you want?
he wouldn't be president if he wasn't born in the US, like DUH.
Um, I believe that we should know how to spell the President's name by now...
Lol at a quarter of you all.
Birthers give the party a bad name. President Obama has many faults, but to claim that he wasn't born in the United States is insane. Federal authorities would have never allowed him to become POTUS.
Those are the batshit crazy people I steer away from
This argument came from the tea party, they just could not stand that a black man was the president of the United States , and they need to just admit that. They called him everything in the book except the N word, well,not in public.
No...it is not a racial issue it is the fact that his policies are insane.
I wasn't, until I saw the birth certificate.
lol where did u see this birth certificate and what did it say
I know this is off topic and all but at least one of Ted Cruz's parents(I forget which one) made Ted Cruz a natural-born citizen. Obama's parents don't make him a natural-born on his own, thus the big deal on where he was born
I'm personally not a "birther" myself, but you can't honestly say that a counterargument could be, "Well Ted Cruz is Canadian so..."
How is Obama not a natural born citizen but Cruz is? Are you that retarded?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Obama's father wasn't a U.S. Citizen at the time and the mother was a little too young to qualify Obama as one yet(I think she was 18, and you had to have at least five years above 16 to qualify). Not sure
Qualify for what? Where do you get this info? She was born in the states. She's an automatic US citizen.
Yes, she was a U.S. Citizen, but from what I've heard, she was simply too young for Obama to be "Natural-born." I'm not arguing that he's "native born," but I can see how there would be more concern about the legitimacy of his claim
I don't know who you got that information from but they are pants on head regarded. There is no minimum age or anything like that. As soon as she was born she has all rights as a U.S. citizen, including birth rights to her children.
Besides. Obama was born in Hawaii so it's really moot anyway.
42 wow. Really? Ignorance is sad. But kinda funny too.
He wasnt but legally he was
So Hawaii isn't a state?
What's the term for the people who don't give a crap?
I like it
I love how the results prove that only 42% of republicans are completely brain dead! Lawwwwd help us there is hope for this country!!! I feared something like 90% of these idiots would say yes.
Most of those republicans that said they believed it are mostly just fooling themselves. They are the victims of wishful thinking.
No. But I don't believe his father's name was "Obama" either.
You REALLY like your youtube conspiracy videos don't you.
No. I'm not. But I'm skeptical.
42. Wow. #notmyparty
I'm a Republican, so it's not true that all Reps are hung up on this. I don't understand this argument. Even if he wasn't born on US soil, he's still a natural-born citizen by virtue of birth; his mother was a citizen, so he is born a citizen.
He's black, and more powerful than any white person alive. Being a birther is all that gets half the republicans through the day, and they're not exactly fans of truth or reality anyway, so it makes for business as usual and life can go on.
Lol. Wow, you really don't know any Conservatives do you?
Tiredofit- I see assume based on your other comments here that you're not a norther. Other than just ignorant nativism, what do you attribute to the fact that 42% of republicans are birthers?
Obama's clear contempt for America and his constant attacks on and demeaning of those people....
Obama has contempt for conservative America, I won't argue with that. So do I. Not sure how that would lead one to believe I wasn't born here. How do any of his actions lead to birtherism, and why have no other candidates been subject to it?
No he has contempt for all of America as it is hence the "fundamental transformation" crap.
And this perceived contempt somehow translates into 42% of republicans somehow believing that he was not born in United States? I felt contempt from President Bush, I don't recall anyone questioning his place of birth.
Bc his grandmother didn't say she saw him be born in Kenya....
So shouldn't that be the root cause? Not some perceived contempt? A bunch of conservatives think he wasn't born here, because they'd heard his grandmother say so, makes a lot more sense than because they think he has contempt for them.
One might also think the fact that his grandmother repeatedly corrected the record in that regard might change their minds. But what? Who knows...
O I thought when you said you saw my other comments, you had seen that I said that. She could obviously be lying but home many times has that African woman seen a white woman give birth to her grandson?
It was a mistranslation. The link provided has a full transcript. Someone was interviewing her, misinterpreted her as saying she was at his birth, and she repeatedly corrected him. It is another myth.
Ehh I'm not sure I ever believe the "corrections" that people in politics try to make. It's a non-issue though and not the reason why people should despise this guy. His incompetence is more than enough.
People in politics? She was being interviewed and the person mistranslated her comments, she realized the miscommunication, and corrected it during the interview. But all the right covers from that is the flubbed translation, very telling.
Her grandson was running for president of the U.S. Of course she is a "person in politics". She would never have interviewed ever if she wasn't involved in some way. It's telling that you guys can't drop it though and just want to call us all RACISTS
"Us all", first of all I thought you weren't a birther, secondly I called them nativists not racist, there's a difference. If aFrench reporter came and interview Kasich's mother, and during the interview misinterpreted a comment as to saying she was
at his birth outside the U.S., and then was immediately corrected during the interview, do you think nearly half of democrats would think he was born outside the US? Any chance you want to tackle why this hasn't been a problem for Cruz?
You want to call "us all" CONSERVATIVES racist, not birthers. And you use nativist simply so that you can say you didn't say racists....
I want to call all conservatives racist? News to me. Any reason why I would want that? Wouldn't I prefer instead the racist conservatives become not racist?
And birthers are nativist, birthers aren't not necessary racist, though I'm sure many are.
That's all you lefties do is call anything you don't like racist. Just go look outside...
Haha you do realize the beauty in generalizing about of group with the claim that they generalize about groups. And does the fact that I don't think all conservatives are racists, somehow in your opinion make me not liberal?
I don't believe that you don't think all conservatives are racist...
Lol ok, so I don't think all conservatives are racist, but you think that all liberals think all conservatives are racist, and somehow that's on me? I have no reason to think you're racist, but you have got some serious prejudice.
I never said anything is "on you". You asked if I thought your not thinking we are all racists makes me think you are not liberal and I rejected the premise of the question. You gotta keep up buddy.
Lol racism is apparently on me. Since you seem to believe you're a mind reader, any idea what I'm making for dinner tonight?
Don't know don't care but your dinner wasn't the issue at hand. It's time to move on now.
I just figured your supposed mind reading had more applications, my b.
I'm not but Hillary Clinton is.
I've got better reasons for disliking him: his politics and policies.
The ones that have taken us 180 degrees away from the damage Bush caused?
Lol you haven't been paying attention if you think there has been ANY repairing of that damage. Less than 2% growth on average since this guy started, that's not a good record at all.
Started with not prosecuting the Black Panthers on voter harassment.
Then there was Zimmerman trial.
Racing to the defense of every thug that got shot by cop, then public found out the cop was correct. Hands up...didn't happen. We can go on and on
Miss are you referring to your comment?
"Are you an idiot?"
If ever there was a single question that would put into perspective how much SoH had been infested by sheer, willful ignorance, this would be it.
Not sure who you meant to ask that to, but there are a lot of pathetic dumbass republicans in this forum.
I believe he was yeas, but that doesn't change anything about how much of a devious, manipulative person has is and always has been. And his name is Barry Soetoro...
Yeas is yes, and has is he had sorry haha
If you clicked yes please please please just beat yourself
Was Washington born in the US?
Yes he was. He was born on what became US soil.
So he wasn't born in the US?
No, but he was covered under the "or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" portion of the eligibility clause, even though he and several early Presidents were born British subjects in what would become the
There was no U.S. Citizen requirement at the time the Forefathers were around, therefore, they were exempted, through.......
If you read the constitution, anyone who became a citizen at the time the constitution was adopted was exempt from the natural born clause. Again natural born meaning, born on US soil or outside of US soil as long as at least one parent is a citizen.
"or outside of US soil as long as at least one parent is a citizen." No such law or Supreme Court ruling says this.
"the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers
have never been resident in the United States." Naturalization Act of 1790. There's also the precedent of George Romney's presidential campaign, where he was born a U.S. citizen but born in Mexico, and yet still was eligible to run for office
That act has long since been superseded. But it's nice to pick and choose isn't it?
I never said it wasn't superseded by later legislation (although what campaign precedent exists points in that direction) However, your claim was that it was never on the books, which is demonstrably false, not that it isn't currently on the books
You were trying to make an incorrect claim now you move for taking my words literally. Let me rephrase. No law since the RATIFICATION of the Constitution and AFTER the 1790 was superseded.
On the contrary, I was pointing out the flaw in your statement, and then responding to your attempt to bat off said comment
May I ask Oyo all a query?......Has anyone ever heard of the English Common Law "Right Of Soil?".......
*All of you
Might I inquiry you as to why you're citing English law in American practice?
There's a reason we separated from the crown.
Not if it is the standard we adopted and follow.......
Yes, there's a reason we separated from the Crown. Acting as if that gets rid of the influence of common law in the American legal system is ignorant and/or asinine
I was promised the end of days if this "Mooslim" was elected since he is the devil incarnate. Is he waiting for his last year? I'm waiting . . .
Looking around at a bunch of "haters" ............ And leaving.
What a surprise lmao almost half of the Republicans that voted are "birthers." They just can't let it go I guess.
No, I say it more as a joke than anything.
My big issue has always been his Kenyan grandmother said she was at his birth in her town. How many times has that African woman seen a white woman in Kenya give birth to her grandson?....
But, he got citizenship from his mom upon birth anyway so it wouldn't matter.
Natural born = born on US soil. This was never an issue until Ted Cruz decided to run.
McCain anyone?..... He was born in Panama....
On a U.S. base which is considered US soil
Didn't stop the Senate from having hearings about it.....
That's because the senate is primarily incompetent. But law is law and facts are facts. Despite not liking McCain, he's 100% eligible.
At least we agree we both don't like McCain haha!
This question might as well read, "are you stupid?"
I can't confirm either way but he is undoubtably an American citizen so it doesn't mater.
Boy there are a lot of silly demeaning comments on here. It's like third grade all over again.
He was probably born in America. His values probably align with Muslim values over Christian though considering he was raised in a Muslim country
How? He's pro gay, pro drug legalization, drinks alcohol, eats pork... How does that align as Muslim?
There's no room for facts here, goalie.
By giving away so much money and power to a terrorist country that is the enemy of a Jewish state is pretty aligned with Muslims....
I see that Anger... This is crazy
That he wants to help "wipe Israel off the map"? Yes, it's very crazy!
Shitty international policies don't equal Muslim.
How is Iran aligned with any Muslim country? Everyone hates Iran.
Also how is taking SOME punishments off them showing them any good feeling? He's just giving them a free market.
The "Islamic Republic of Iran" isn't Muslim? That's news to them.....
They're Muslim but that's not what you said.
If you can't understand and speak English, please use a different language.
The only country that liked them the most was Lebanon at 40% approval. So how aligned with the Muslim world are they?
Please tell me where I didn't call them Muslim. I said OBAMA is allied with THE MUSLIMS of Iran. Did you just not read all of the comments or something? I didn't realize I have to spell out every word when responding to direct questions....
You are the one who read the comments incorrectly. No one ever said Iran is aligned with other Muslim countries, even though they are aligned with Muslim terrorists who think they have a country, but that OBAMA is aligned with Muslims. Nuance must...
Not be Rota's friend.
21%? this is amazing. try watching something else than fnc
Oh. Lawt. Nearly 400 people.
At THIS point, Obama's legacy as twice-elected President is sealed. He, with all his sycophants and loyalists, need NO other stick to poke in the eye of detractors, than this. If it turns out he's Kenyan, he'll be the first foreign U.S. President!
Are you a nut?
Funny how the same people in my party think that Obama wasn't born here and isn't an American, yet wholeheartedly support Ted Cruz.
Come on people.
He had an American mother. It wouldn't matter even if he were born outside the USA.
To be president you have to be born in the U.S.
You don't have to be born in the US... You just have to be an Birthright citizen... American parent. At least that's what I learned in Civics in 9th grade lol
Washington wasn't born to an American citizen.
There were no natural born Americans though.......
There was no requirement in effect during our Forefathers time.......
Ah. It says you have to be a natural born citizen, which has a few different interpretations but no clear definition.
Prior to the passing of the Constitution.......what laws were in effect regarding the Pres. election to office......curious.....
In looking into your source, it states, " as directed by the Constitution"....... leaves me to believe that it was enacted afterwards......no?......
No idea. If the library of congress website is wrong or missing info, I don't know what to do.
Let me clarify; There was no requirement, til it was established by the Constitution. ....
Thank You for the link, all information is better than no information SA.......
Prior to the Constitution there wasn't a president....
Agreed, however, we know that there was no "official" requirement prior to the enactment of the Constitution......
That birther horse is dead. Please stop beating it.
Republicans, 41% are birthers!? Really?!
Apparently they've turned on the wifi in the psych ward.
Nope, but my parents are. The fully believe it regardless of how much evidence there is otherwise. With the NSA and how awful the government is at keeping secrets, I really doubt they could hide a secret like that.
Besides, he is a citizen here. Like it or not. Seriously, anyone who still believes otherwise may need to get some new priorities in life. This is not something to debate. It's not hard to look at facts. Do a little research.
Hey guess what all you crazies. Hawaii is in the United States now!
His Hawaiian birth is a matter of debate among birthers.
Those people are the worst
Its a waste of time to talk about. Even if he was born in Kenya (which he wasn't,) it doesn't matter because his mom was a U.S. Citizen!
Means nothing, he must be born "Feet Dry" to qualify for participation in the Pres. elect.
Not true. How do you think Cruz is eligible?
United States Constitution Article 1 section 2 subsection (5).......qualifications for the Presidency Of The United States Of America.........
Great, thanks. Okay, now tell me what a naturalized citizen is.
He's a citizen by birthright not naturalization, my bad. If his mom is a U.S. Citizen, it doesn't matter if he was born in Namibia, the moon or the center of the earth, he's a citizen as well.
Thank You......Naturalization and being born of U.S. citizen are two entirely different things......
I know. It was a mistake, hence the 'my bad.'
He's a citizen by birthright, as would he be if he was born in Kenya.
No worries mate.......Thank You for the brief discussion, it was a pleasure conversing with a mature reasoning individual.....
No worries buddy. Thank you for being respectful as well.
Why else would Barry Soetoro have all of his records sealed? Duh.
This just in, even if he was born in Kenya, Zimbabwe, Russia, the UK or ANYWHERE else for that matter, his mother was a citizen at birth and that automatically makes him a natural born citizen despite location of birth.
I disagree........He may achieve recognition for being born of a U.S. citizen, but natural born he can not achieve......
Unless in fact he was born on U.S. soil.....
Okay, you can "disagree" but you are wrong. Natural born can happen two different ways:
1) You are born on U.S. soil.
2) You are born outside of the U.S. while either parent is a U.S. citizen.
"natural born" just means citizen from birth. He didn't have to take a test or apply for citizenship.
I'm going to explain this is simply as I can...
The founding fathers who wrote the constitution knew the term, Natural Born Citizen, to mean any person who is a citizen at the time of birth and does not need to obtain citizenship via naturalization.
In England, the term is spelled out, the term at that time was commonly known. So this is where the debate over the term not being defined in our constitution ends.
If we wrote the constitution today, we would not explicitly spell out the...
Definition of any word that is commonly understood. As was it in the 1700's, the term Naturn Born Citizen was commonly understood as was spelled out under England's law. Which is where they got the term from.
Therefore, meaning no requirement of proof of citizenship once born on U.S. soil, children born overseas or abroad to U.S. personal still must go through the INS to establish their citizenship claim.......
Wrong sentinel, they do NOT go through naturalization. They are simply born to a citizen and are citizens at birth. PERIOD.
Of which I know Hawaii is in U.S. controlled waters.......
Are you trolling, drunk, high!?
Where do you get that horse hockey from?.....Is this the normal gist of it???......I offer a opinion and I get this troll crap?...."Amazing!.....
I speak from living in Germany, during Vietnam and had a little experience dealing with this issue
Because you say stupid shit like "horse hockey" and I see about a dozen other people have spelled it out for you. You are either trolling or brain dead.
A "Dozen," I believe it's your dumb ass and you Obamanites need to learn civility.......grow up kid!.....
LoL.... Wow you sound like a moron. Why is it that Republicans a
Always do that?
I'm not a republican or democrats.......what does your crystal ball say now jr........
That you are a troll. Good luck with your trolling.
Know the difference between Naturalization and this topic genius.........
This is for jr. dumbass....Your wrong.......The USCIS Manual on children of U.S. Citizen......States," Children born abroad, still need Certificate of Citizenship! .......
Certification such as verifying the child was born to a citizen at birth and as such as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and does not require naturalization!? Sure, whatever, but this "certification" is NOT naturalization. Also, "you're" not "your," dumbass.
Natural born defined as "Both Parents" being U.S. citizen, when only one is a u.s. citizen then other regulations must be met......
Thanks for the spelling correction......feel better.......
Sentinel, that definition would negate Cruz's ability to run....a fact that conservatives are denying. He was definitely born abroad, and his father is Cuban, not a U.S. Citizen. Why one set of rules for Obama and a different set for Cruz?
bMyComrade, Greetings and good day, the "error" being passed around has to do with definition (s), to be a "Naturally Born" citizen is to have both parents of U.S. citizenship or origin.
To be a United States citizen, you may qualify in accordance..
With the United States Constitution et.al, and the USCIS Manual on Children of U.S. Citizens, which outlines what qualifies as a recognized citizen and status.....
Cruz ' s Parent is a U.S. Citizen....that parent had to to reside at least 60 months
On U.S. soil prior to living abroad, and there is a couple other criteria(s) that has to be satisfied, The U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 2 subsection ( 5 ) states in part," A Naturally Born Citizen or a "U.S. Citizen"......
Correction; Article 2 Section 1 subsection (5)......
There is so much evidence that says he was not born here. There was never a birth certificate produced, just a verification form.
At this point, it don't matter, the damage to the US is done and will take decades to repair, it it ever is repaired.
Why did you just call me a dipshit? That's really unnecessary and ride and makes you look like an asshole
What in the world are you talking about? I didn't nor would I ever call someone names, here. Unless it is sarcasm.
I guess I hurt your feelings with a general comment about conspiracies.
Dr, Sean clearly meant to reply below, not to you.
Wrong, his mother was a citizen, so no matter where he was born he was a natural born citizen.
Not going into the details about his citizenship. It has been debated in circles that give more than 250 characters and has not been solved.
The damage to this country is done. We need to more forward and repair his actions.
What "damage" exactly? Because it looks like every sector of economy is in better shape than when he took office. He has even slashed the deficit by over two thirds. He wanted to take other measures that would have actually created a surplus, but
Republicans prevented it.
Iran nuke deal
IRS used as a weapon
EPA out of control
Global Warming hoax
LoL okay wow so you haven't seen any numbers and you are a climate change denier. LoL lol lOl LOL
You need to stop watching CNNAs far as Climate Change, I believe it changes. It is just Man is not doing it. First the sun was going out, then we were destroying the ozone, then we were burning the planet, now an ice age. How can anyone keep track?
Give me some numbers so I can steer you straight.
A. The sun has never been going out. B. The cycle is heating then a crash into an ice age. C. The process has accelerated in tandem with human industry. D. Even if it isn't *all our fault, we ought do what we can for the environment anyway.
I am guessing you are younger that 50. When I was a kid, they were telling us the sun is getting cooler and that in the future it would not be able to sustain like on Earth.
We will be burnt up this time next year anyway, so it won't matter.
The cool thing about science, unlike religion, is that when technology advances we can get a better understand of the world around us and the universe. Good to know you are stuck making judgements on 1950s science. You probably wish it were the 1800s
No, you almost go it right. Every few years there is a discovery that makes past theories obsolete. However none of those discoveries make the Bible obsolete. How many times have we heard the Earth us younger or man had certain tools earlier?
Obama caused the issue of "race relations"? Never heard anything more absurd in my life(ok probably not true). People being horrible to each other throughout history and today caused it. Recognizing a problem is the first step.
Obsolete is a loaded term. You should consider rethinking your perspective on what scientific advancement means. I'd also encourage you to rethink 'wrong'.
Here's a great piece for your consideration www.palisadessd.org/cms/lib03/PA01000106/Centricity/Domain/232/AsimovWrong.pdf
The BuyBull proves itself obsolete with its numerous inaccuracies and contradictions.
41% of republicans on hers, seriously?? 😒😒😒😒😒😒
Obviously a typo, dipshit.
totally unnecessary sir.
Clearly you are not a nice individual. Calling me a dipshit? I'm reporting you for being a nasty person
and I hope you realize that I was the person who wrote the original post with the typo. I wasn't correcting anyone else, I was correcting myself!!!
literally go to hell
And just when the GOP's turd pile seemed to smell less with the 9/11 poll. Holy bejesus.