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Korosensei August 2nd, 2015 8:06pm

If you were provided with food, water, shelter, medical care, a TV with basic cable, a computer with the Internet and a cell phone would you lose all motivation to work?

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Carolynn new jersey
08/03/15 10:37 am

Wow, I just looked at the results. Why would so many republicans lack motivation for something better than this? 46%

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CorblaKhan Team Skynet
08/02/15 7:49 pm

I love that republicans are the laziest people in America.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 4:18 am

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CorblaKhan Team Skynet
08/03/15 9:24 am

As an independent, I cannot help but find that the "if we don't teach teens about sex the won't have it" camp claiming that anyone else is refusing to be realistic is somewhat laughable.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 9:50 am

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CorblaKhan Team Skynet
08/03/15 11:53 am

They absolutely exist, but are hardly the norm.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 11:57 am

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CorblaKhan Team Skynet
08/03/15 4:33 pm

Or, with how easy it is to live the high-life in America -I mean all you have to do is go on welfare, right?- we can just look at what percent of people are working: 94.7%. That seems pretty convincing.

CorblaKhan Team Skynet
08/03/15 4:34 pm

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that as soon as these policies go in to place we won't have a bunch of people stopping working. Most of them will get bored and get back to work, in some form.

CorblaKhan Team Skynet
08/03/15 4:34 pm

Hopefully pursuing things they can find joy in, rather than the miserable wage-slavery most of us live with.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/02/15 6:09 pm

I have no motivation to work as it is. I just need the money.

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/02/15 5:17 pm

Actually I consider these basic necessities for most generic office work today.

sea California
08/02/15 3:59 pm

No because I get all that and more by working. You would still need some cash for basic necessities and incidentals, not to mention caring for a family.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
08/02/15 3:57 pm

Not all motivation, i would still be interested in doing something I liked. I wouldn't be cleaning shitters, that for sure.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 4:00 pm

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
08/02/15 3:23 pm

Of course not. There is a lot more to the opportunity life offers than just the bare necessities. In fact, having the essentials taken care of would let me focus on work for the joy of doing what I love well, rather than just the paycheck.

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MrLucchese If curious, ask.
08/02/15 2:56 pm

Nope. There's so much beyond those things, and I actually enjoy working.

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EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
08/02/15 2:25 pm

I'd put Photoshop and Illustrator in the computer and still work.

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LeftLibertarian The Age of Outrage
08/02/15 2:22 pm

Why would I lose my motivation to work if I have all I need to innovate? People would thrive in such a society, it would be much more empowering than what you get from a mere profit incentive.

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rons Thanks America
08/02/15 1:40 pm

Will porn be free?

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Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 1:44 pm

For everyone except you

rons Thanks America
08/02/15 1:47 pm

Then count me out with the free crap.

Carolynn new jersey
08/02/15 1:38 pm

No I wouldn't. I don't think that happens as much as people think, either. Everyone has their own story and their own struggles. We shouldn't judge someone who needs help, we should just try to help them.

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Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 1:41 pm

Carol ... and if it happens at all, is that acceptable?

Carolynn new jersey
08/02/15 1:55 pm

If someone lost motivation to better themselves, I would think that that person needs some form of help. Even if it's just to see a doctor or psychiatrist. I would suspect they are suffering from depression.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 3:51 pm

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Carolynn new jersey
08/02/15 5:34 pm

I wouldn't consider paying for someone to live for the rest of his life as helping that person.

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 5:39 pm

Carol ... if covering their expenses isn't helping, then PLEASE tell me how I can withdraw my support!

The last thing in the world that I'd want to do is have the gov't take my tax dollars to NOT support this person!

Carolynn new jersey
08/02/15 5:44 pm

I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn't referring to the support, I was talking about the length of time. I'm all for support, but not for his entire life.

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 7:49 pm

Carol ... I understood your vague comment and clarified my position. These type of people deserve no support.

Carolynn new jersey
08/03/15 4:15 am

What type of person deserves it?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 4:17 am

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Carolynn new jersey
08/03/15 4:45 am

Those type of people are eligible for unemployment insurance. Are you saying we should include the items listed in the question?

Maj Worth Economist
08/02/15 1:22 pm

Of course not. That's stupid. Otherwise, people would work just long enough to pay for the bare minimum and stop for the rest of the month. Wealthy CEOs would be a thing of the past because they already have enough to cover that for the rest of life.

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Maj Worth Economist
08/02/15 1:25 pm

I absolutely hate this idea because it requires assumptions that work for half the human race, but not the other. Poor people - somehow a different species - don't want to work for something better in life. But people who have jobs (which may or...

Maj Worth Economist
08/02/15 1:27 pm

...may not include poor people, but probably doesn't. For some reason), are aspirational and want to do things with their lives. That's the most fact-ignorant, dickish, unempathetic perspective a human can possibly take of his fellow man.

Maj Worth Economist
08/02/15 1:27 pm

I can't even imagine going through life choosing to think that ill of all the people around me. Just no.

Kay41 the Midwest
08/02/15 1:37 pm

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Well said.

Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 1:43 pm

That's exactly what I was trying to prove with this poll

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 3:53 pm

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08/02/15 3:55 pm

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08/02/15 3:56 pm

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Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 4:15 pm

Nema the point I was trying to make was that people don't lose motivation just because they get necessities provided to them seriously dude I know your Nema persona is a troll but at least try next time

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 4:24 pm

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Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 4:36 pm

Here's the problem you are taking the question and expanding it instead of addressing what the question asks you are trying to justify why the answer doesn't line up with your views

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/03/15 3:33 am

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Korosensei Maine
08/03/15 6:40 am

But I'm not comparing anything I'm asking regular people if they would lose motivation if they had basic stuff provided to them so unless you believe that the poor are intrinsically different from the rich my point stands

RVA Uptown, Fan District, RVA
08/02/15 1:17 pm

Nah. I would get too bored.

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 1:11 pm

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Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 1:17 pm

So you'd be fine with just this stuff?

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 1:26 pm

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BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 1:37 pm

Living in welfare is like making below minimum wage (unless you have 20 kids).

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 1:40 pm

Nobody has a right to have the enumerated list provided by forcing others to pay for them.

Having a vacation home and a ski boat likewise wouldn't stop my desire to work. Should we force others to provide them as well?

Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 1:42 pm

I'm not saying anything about should we provide this I'm saying would getting this stop your motivation since a common argument against welfare is "it makes them lose motivation to get a job"

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 1:44 pm

Depends. It's no way to live, but people that make it a way to live probably didn't have much motivation to get a job in the first place. It's like, "I'm sitting around, might as well apply to get stuff provided for sitting around."

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 1:47 pm

Sensei ... why are you push a false narrative?

The more relevant argument is ... why should others be forced to buy those things for you?

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 2:04 pm

Sensei ... rather than assert what you're not saying, tell us ... do you think tax payers should be forced to provide these luxuries to welfare recipients?

Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 2:23 pm

Think what false narrative am I pushing? I have many times thins along the lines of "if you provide welfare people lose motivation" I made this poll to disprove that

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 2:24 pm

Sensei ... I understand. You sidestepped my follow-up question!

Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 2:34 pm

I think everyone should be provided those things by the government and then work if they want more I know that it's not fiscally really possible but if it was I think it would be very good for America

Think Lovin Life
08/02/15 2:55 pm

Sensei ... the "government" provides NOTHING that it doesn't first take from taxpayers.

You are saying that those of us who actually pay taxes should find those things for those who don't pay!

Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 3:44 pm

Look I'm not economically ignorant and I'm not saying I have all the answers I'm saying that if there were some way for the government to provide everyone this that would be a good thing

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
08/02/15 3:59 pm

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08/02/15 3:59 pm

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Korosensei Maine
08/02/15 4:16 pm

Nema I never said everything I said "this" referencing this list I made the poll about