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BeachSt August 2nd, 2015 2:34pm

Next year, July 1, 2016, Virginia law will require all boaters regardless of age to pass a Boater Education Safety course and to carry the license card while on the water. Support?

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
08/04/15 12:45 pm

Absolutely. That's the law in Oregon. People need to prove they understand basic rules and nautical safety. A lot can go wrong in a hurry out on the water. I don't want some moron putting me at risk.

PyroSadist like my comments follow
08/04/15 11:31 am

You need a license to legally operate a car, you should need one for a motorized boat too

dodofuzzic Canada
08/04/15 9:18 am

Where I'm from its a 4 hour class and a simple test and then you're good for life. Just be lucky you don't have to renew every year or so. And to all those bitching, we should eliminate drivers licence and gun license so everyone can drive and shoot.

lip massholevania
08/04/15 5:00 pm

Firearm ownership is a RIGHT .gov has no rights to infringe on it.

Brilliant10 Ioway
08/03/15 9:47 pm

Regardless of age??? Does that include little children???

johnnycub Bronx
08/04/15 1:25 am

If they can buy and own their own boat, sure.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/04/15 6:27 am

You can't drive a PWC if you're under 14. And every PWC operator has to have the license.

Brilliant10 Ioway
08/04/15 7:52 am

Omg I read that question wrongXD for some reason I thought it meant to be in a boat which sounded ridiculous, makes a lot more sense now

F1Dan Parked in your spot
08/03/15 7:42 pm

As long as this only applies to the people operating the boat. Im not taking some courses and getting a special license just to sit on a boat.

bringstheeagle Colorado
08/03/15 6:47 pm

Seems reasonable - I'm surprised it wasn't already required.

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BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/04/15 6:26 am

Nope. Before 2007 there were no restrictions at all.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/04/15 6:26 am

Besides obvious laws and Coast Guard requirements.

rons Thanks America
08/03/15 5:22 pm

They require that here.I had the course to run my electric motor.

PresWK Minnesota
08/03/15 3:23 pm

That's fucking gay, if you manage to crash your boat into another on the open lake you don't deserve to live in the first place

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/03/15 5:37 pm

It's not about crashing in a lake. Most lakes here can only accommodate vessels with a motor under 10hp, which is excluded from the license law anyway.

nruss16
08/03/15 2:12 pm

Not a good law. I had to take one when I was younger to drive a boat since I wasn't 18. The course takes about 8 hours and teaches you common knowledge stuff

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lip massholevania
08/02/15 5:54 pm

Nope. Just more .gov trampling liberty.

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DuckAndCower
08/03/15 4:39 pm

What does a top-level domain reserved for governmental websites have to do with anything?

lip massholevania
08/03/15 4:40 pm

Umm, overextending its authority? We are not subjects to .gov. They work for us.

catpillow Florida West Coast
08/02/15 2:55 pm

After dodging tourists who don't know what they're doing, I think it's a great idea,

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:03 am

That's disgusting.

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Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:10 am

Maybe a bit of context here: I'm Inupiaq and I come from a culture where the ocean is our garden. The idea that a government could restrict access to it is disgusting to me. I'm all for availability of safety courses and strongly encourage people to

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:11 am

take advantage of them, but for people who have been boating for decades or who rely on boating to feed their families, this is essentially a worthless tax on the practice.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 11:21 am

This doesn't restrict access at all. It's free online. Too many people are getting access to the water without understanding the rules of the water. It's so necessary.

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:23 am

Free online is restrictive in itself. Many people in rural Alaska, in fact MOST people in rural Alaska, don't have internet access. Plus, most of them have been learning safe boating practices since before they could talk.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 11:31 am

Do they have police stations? Also the law can't differentiate between a lifelong boater and a liar. As more and more people have access to water, there have to be standards to keep people safe. I can see Alaska being exempt because of sparse pop.

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:41 am

"Have to be standards to keep people safe." Absolutely. Require lifejackets, make boating traffic regulations, etc. And fine or jail violators according to severity. But boating has a subsistence element that driving does not. There aren't public

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:43 am

transportation options for the water like there are on land. Traffic isn't as dense (except maybe in the immediate vicinity of a dock or marina where speeds are carefully regulated anyway).

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 12:36 pm

But that's the thing. The water is one of the most unregulated places. I think licenses ensuring that people know what they're doing is not a bad thing. I don't think mandating an 8 hour, online powerpoint is restricting anyone.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 12:37 pm

And it's only for boats with a motor over 10 hp. Operators of john boats with a 9.9 or lower don't need the license. I've had to tell people that jet ski operators have to have a life jacket on and be out of the water before sunset. Basic stuff.

TerryQuinn Stardust
08/02/15 3:09 pm

I assume that there's a big difference between VA and Alaska. VA waterways can probably get pretty crowded and most people boat for recreation and not to live off the sea.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/03/15 10:13 am

Around the resort areas, but here it's just as much for food. Crabbing is also huge, of course..

rons Thanks America
08/03/15 5:24 pm

JEN, QUESTION¦ Does PETA come after you.

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/03/15 5:38 pm

Yes, there have been animal rights activists who expressed opposition to cultural subsistence hunting and fishing activities.

rons Thanks America
08/03/15 7:18 pm

Do they tell PETA to go away? I was always interested how the native Alaskan/ Canadian was treated. They hunted to live a difficult life.

LochnessMonster Milky way
08/02/15 8:49 am

Well I hold a merchant mariner's license with the coast guard so I won't have any trouble with that.

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Wes28 CBus
08/02/15 8:45 am

No. Just ANOTHER little law to put more power in the governments hands.

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BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 9:15 am

Or something to protect everyone from idiots. You wouldn't believe how few people know the rules of the water.

Wes28 CBus
08/02/15 9:31 am

I don't think the government should have the right to restrict access to the water.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 9:35 am

They're not. They're requiring boaters to have a license. Needing a license for a car doesn't restrict your right to be outside.

Wes28 CBus
08/02/15 1:56 pm

That's apples to oranges. You can't be out on a body of water without a boat.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 1:59 pm

....um. Kayak, canoe, row boat, paddleboard, boat with a 9.9 hp motor.... Plenty of things.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 8:25 am

Right now, it's everyone under 50. Then next year it will be everyone. All PWC operators have to have a boating license.

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deist
08/02/15 9:11 am

Is there a fee involved?

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 9:16 am

There's free and fee based courses.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 9:16 am

Just like with driver's licenses.

RVA Uptown, Fan District, RVA
08/02/15 9:24 am

It's a bit of a joke, though. You can go to Boat US's website and take it for free. Some have even figured out that you can get by the timed course pages.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 9:29 am

I had someone ask me what the channel markers are for. From that moment on, I quit regarding it as a joke.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 10:01 am

Yeah. People buy boats and have no idea about no wake, sailing vessel right of way, markers, reading charts... I can go on all day.

RVA Uptown, Fan District, RVA
08/02/15 10:54 am

Yep. They shouldn't be on the water until they learn.

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
08/02/15 11:16 am

Boaters who are ignorant of boating laws and regulations should absolutely be policed and fined or arrested accordingly. But permitting the process is ridiculous. A government safety course is redundant when many boaters learn through childhood.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
08/02/15 11:33 am

Not many. Many fishermen do. Boaters, no. At least not here. And if they're going to be policed, then their needs to be a standard to hold them to. This is easier than tasking 8 marine cops to watch out for everyone.