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Squidboy July 30th, 2015 11:38pm

An anti-abortion group violates a court order & releases a video. Greenpeace protestors in Portland are ruled on civil contempt for dangling off a bridge & blocking shipping traffic. Is it ok to break the law in support of your beliefs?

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genuflect University of Minnesota
08/01/15 8:17 pm

Yes it is, but both of these examples are hilariously stupid.

Lance007 Libertas est super omnes
07/31/15 7:55 pm

So MLK was a bad person? Because he was pretty big on breaking the law to support his beliefs.

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RadioWindow
07/31/15 7:14 pm

Yes unless you endanger someone else (physically) while doing it.

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chickencookie Jihad Joe
07/31/15 3:35 pm

Big difference between murdering and selling baby parts to blocking traffic.

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Lance007 Libertas est super omnes
07/31/15 7:55 pm

So MLK was a bad person? Because he was pretty big on breaking the law to support his beliefs.

commonsense America isnt racist
07/31/15 7:59 pm

I don't think mlk was bad. Maybe overrated when it comes to history.

I don't think it's okay to break the law because you think it's okay. We have ways to change those laws.

Lance007 Libertas est super omnes
08/01/15 7:42 am

I thought you said it was never ok to break the law? That would automatically mean that you think what MLK did was bad; his entire shtick was civil disobedience.

teppofan Rt. 66 Hackberry, AZ
07/31/15 7:53 am

We ought to obey God rather than men.-Peter

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commonsense America isnt racist
07/31/15 12:13 pm

You sure about? Or are you just saying that? Because God has some really horrible rules.

phen nebraska
08/03/15 6:17 am

Like what? Thou shall not kill...horrible rule

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/31/15 7:09 am

Okay is a strange word. I'd say you do what you gotta do but pay the price and don't whine about it.

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steelcity Pittsburgh
07/31/15 4:09 am

If your belief is that it a company is murdering children and selling their corpses then yes I think it is ok to break a law prohibiting you from exposing this.

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CudOfCow Oregon
07/31/15 3:09 am

Sure it's ok but expect to spend some time in lockup...

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phen nebraska
08/03/15 6:18 am

There ya go. No matter what you do, legal orbillegal, expect what you get put of it. I had a pastor who was strong on natural consequences

LeftLibertarian The Age of Outrage
07/30/15 8:38 pm

Absolutely, if you can meet your burden of proof, although I'm pro choice personally.

polster2 US
07/30/15 8:11 pm

That court order was unconstitutional anyway.

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presrvd Phoenix
07/30/15 8:07 pm

If it doesn't put others at risk, or violate another's rights, I'm not sure why it's illegal in the first place.....

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iPolitix Political Party Animal
07/30/15 7:20 pm

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
~Thomas Jefferson

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emgwenn portland
07/30/15 5:31 pm

Civil disobedience??

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BusinessJustin Tamriel
07/30/15 5:05 pm

Generally no. There's a proper and legal way to express your position. I can imagine many exceptions to this rule though.

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Mattwall1
07/30/15 5:30 pm

This, though I wouldn't consider either of these to be such cases, though at least being an idiot and blocking shipping isn't disingenuous, something I can't say for the other example, at least if it's the one I'm thinking of

BusinessJustin Tamriel
07/30/15 6:15 pm

Yeah I agree that neither of these meet the criteria for breaking the law to assert their position.

Maj Worth Economist
07/30/15 4:46 pm

Within reason. Kind of ironic.

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Lance007 Libertas est super omnes
07/30/15 6:30 pm

As far as I know the group did not violate the court order. The order was to not release videos of a specific California-based abortion clinic, not videos of Planned Parenthood executives.