Actually it makes perfect sense there is a gap where you gain more money from having a bad job and welfare than you would by having a better salary and losing a source of income is hard imagine if your monthly budget was suddenly slashed by 30%
No spin zone? It was 5 people who didn't want to lose their subsidized housing. Great investigative journalism finds an anomaly to support a narrative.
Because all the good journalists write the story & then find the facts to support them...
Sounds like mostly BS, since the minimum hasn't ramped up yet - it's only about a buck and a half over what it was. I'd like to know more details about this alleged group of people who have asked for fewer hours to preserve their welfare status.
While I don't doubt there will be a few cases of this happening, I don't think it will be the norm. Besides the biased source, the 'evidence' is circumstantial & anecdotal. Seattle is not Montgomery, it's spendy to live there.
Be more specific. That's 'Fox Speak' code for eliminating workplace safety and labor laws, eliminating minimum wage, breaking unions and reducing taxes on business owners. All of that puts the working poor at greater risk.
How about reducing the costs business must endure to operate in this country. If you would eliminate business tax, they could hire more people at higher wages. With business taxes eliminated, they would at a rate that would cause them to compete for
Employees. They'd advertise higher wages and benefits to attract employees. We'd have to open the borders to get enough workers. Then eliminate income tax. More spending money money business.
You guys are naive, but I'll play your game for a minute. I consult with Fortune 1000 companies and help them screw over their employees to the maximum extent of the law. Reduced taxes have zero impact on employee wages. It goes into expansion
I'm all for your ideas and would love to eliminate income taxes. But that has little to do with funding government and lifting people out of poverty. Apple has enough $ to make all their employees millionaires. They don't do it.
There are >4m job openings in the US for people who want to work. My question was 'how would you propose lifting people out of poverty?' If that's your best shot, then I'm good.
So, if there are 4 million plus job openings, and people would rather be on unemployment and welfare. Then that system needs reform. I believe that about 90% of people whose benefits end, get a job within a couple weeks.
Because jobs that pay above poverty levels are just on every street corner saying, hey, cone get me. Your tickle down bs doesn't work. Never has. And if you think companies just started taking their money off shore in the last 7 yrs,
Well My, it's not your conversation. But since your here, your $15 an hour that was supposed to save the day and make liberals look like heroes isn't good enough. They don't want it. They want to keep wages low enough to get free stuff from the guv.
The Pres. Only wanted $10.10. And you gave em $15. Now what? $25 to mop floors at McDonald's? Don't help someone with their electric bill because they're going to want to know why you didn't pay their rent.
Right, bc that statement was backed up with what? Facts and figures or your comments? And I voted on this poll, so yeah, I guess it is my conversation.
I've witnessed this personally. I watched a guy get a job offer for 18/hour. He got off the phone and told me if he takes the job it would cut into his food stamps. I told him he wouldn't need food stamps with that job. He said "I don't know,
I have also personally witnessed this. I have family who are careful not to earn too much or they'll lose their welfare. Also, a bit off topic, but if the $15 min wage spreads beyond Seattle, people (myself included) will lose their jobs.
That article had so much hard data to back up its allegation that I was left breathless. Here, I'll write one too. In an unexpected turn of events, the higher minimum wage in Seattle is causing ring tailed foxes to urinate in trash bins.
Several areas have reported that some fixes have found that urinating in trash bins is helping them with their glaucoma which is being caused by the increase minimum wage. One facility confirmed I had seen these foxes peeing in
The foxes or the people in the original article? 😏
I use logic a lot. My logic alert went off when the article made claims without quoting anyone or citing actual facts. Facts are cool. They help with logic a lot.
I love how democrats are getting super defensive about this! "oh mer gawd, people we are trying to help are abusing the system, it can't be true! Let's make a stupid point to try to distract people from the truth!"
And who are you calling a democrat. I thought you hated being mislabeled a liberal. Now you're doing it? I see you've joined the ranks of your own enemies.
I got called a liberal by cowboy...totally different situation. You are saying there is not one single person who abuses the system? Come on, is your head buried that far in the sand?
Of course that's not what I'm saying. That'd be silly. The article implies its epidemic, however. That's the problem. The article is all implications and supposition. No facts. That's my only issue. If there's a real problem, I do want to know.
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