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political July 28th, 2015 2:21pm

Due to Seattle increasing the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour, employees are asking employers to reduce their hours to be eligible for welfare.

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Korosensei Maine
08/03/15 9:31 pm

Actually it makes perfect sense there is a gap where you gain more money from having a bad job and welfare than you would by having a better salary and losing a source of income is hard imagine if your monthly budget was suddenly slashed by 30%

smartfart Florida
07/29/15 4:45 pm

No spin zone? It was 5 people who didn't want to lose their subsidized housing. Great investigative journalism finds an anomaly to support a narrative.
Because all the good journalists write the story & then find the facts to support them...

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EagleCoder Missouri
07/31/15 7:59 pm

Basically.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
07/29/15 11:39 am

Sounds like mostly BS, since the minimum hasn't ramped up yet - it's only about a buck and a half over what it was. I'd like to know more details about this alleged group of people who have asked for fewer hours to preserve their welfare status.

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Brilliant10 Ioway
07/29/15 10:35 am

Holy crap the minimum here is less than half that

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mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:09 pm

If you're paid poverty wages then more than likely you live in poverty. It's not that hard....for most.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 10:55 am

Welcome Dems to the world that you've created. They don't even want a free pay raise. They just want their free crap that they don't have to work for.

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 10:31 am

While I don't doubt there will be a few cases of this happening, I don't think it will be the norm. Besides the biased source, the 'evidence' is circumstantial & anecdotal. Seattle is not Montgomery, it's spendy to live there.

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political Georgia
07/28/15 10:37 am

In the past, raising the minimum wage does little to bring people out of poverty.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 10:44 am

I'm lukewarm on the concept. How would you propose giving someone a path out of poverty?

political Georgia
07/28/15 10:47 am

By supporting a business friendly climate.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 10:50 am

Be more specific. That's 'Fox Speak' code for eliminating workplace safety and labor laws, eliminating minimum wage, breaking unions and reducing taxes on business owners. All of that puts the working poor at greater risk.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 10:58 am

How about reducing the costs business must endure to operate in this country. If you would eliminate business tax, they could hire more people at higher wages. With business taxes eliminated, they would at a rate that would cause them to compete for

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:00 am

Employees. They'd advertise higher wages and benefits to attract employees. We'd have to open the borders to get enough workers. Then eliminate income tax. More spending money money business.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:01 am

The economy would expand like never before. You'd lift more people out of poverty than any welfare system ever.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 11:01 am

You guys are naive, but I'll play your game for a minute. I consult with Fortune 1000 companies and help them screw over their employees to the maximum extent of the law. Reduced taxes have zero impact on employee wages. It goes into expansion

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 11:02 am

Bigger shareholder dividends and offshore tax havens.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:03 am

Why do you think business takes profits offshore, taxes. If they could invest here and expand. They would.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 11:04 am

I'm all for your ideas and would love to eliminate income taxes. But that has little to do with funding government and lifting people out of poverty. Apple has enough $ to make all their employees millionaires. They don't do it.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:05 am

Expansion equals more hiring. Higher wages to compete in the marketplace.

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 11:06 am

Opening 5 new Mcdonalds doesn't raise the wages of anyone, it just creates 150 more shitty jobs.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:06 am

Apple is a great place to work. But they'd hire and build factories here if the taxes didn't kill them.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:07 am

Look at the billions they took offshore to protect it from Obama

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:08 am

Jobs. Jobs that any high school kid would love to have. Those aren't jobs for a dad trying to raise a family.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:10 am

150 jobs is great for those that want them. Or would you rather they played video games on their moms couch

Squidboy Snarkapottamus
07/28/15 11:13 am

There are >4m job openings in the US for people who want to work. My question was 'how would you propose lifting people out of poverty?' If that's your best shot, then I'm good.

political Georgia
07/28/15 11:14 am

Making them less dependent on welfare for one.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 11:27 am

So, if there are 4 million plus job openings, and people would rather be on unemployment and welfare. Then that system needs reform. I believe that about 90% of people whose benefits end, get a job within a couple weeks.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 3:02 pm

And eliminating business taxes would allow companies to sell overseas and actually compete in the marketplace.

mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:12 pm

Because jobs that pay above poverty levels are just on every street corner saying, hey, cone get me. Your tickle down bs doesn't work. Never has. And if you think companies just started taking their money off shore in the last 7 yrs,

mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:13 pm

Then you have your own issues.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 4:15 pm

Ok, Mr. Socialist the government is my savior and can fix everything. How's it going?

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 4:24 pm

Well My, it's not your conversation. But since your here, your $15 an hour that was supposed to save the day and make liberals look like heroes isn't good enough. They don't want it. They want to keep wages low enough to get free stuff from the guv.

badattitude no place like home
07/28/15 4:27 pm

The Pres. Only wanted $10.10. And you gave em $15. Now what? $25 to mop floors at McDonald's? Don't help someone with their electric bill because they're going to want to know why you didn't pay their rent.

mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:28 pm

Right, bc that statement was backed up with what? Facts and figures or your comments? And I voted on this poll, so yeah, I guess it is my conversation.

mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:29 pm

How did I help? I don't live on the west coast.

kscott516 Revelation 5 6
07/28/15 10:28 am

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jayblake22
07/28/15 9:50 am

I've witnessed this personally. I watched a guy get a job offer for 18/hour. He got off the phone and told me if he takes the job it would cut into his food stamps. I told him he wouldn't need food stamps with that job. He said "I don't know,

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jayblake22
07/28/15 9:50 am

I'll have to do the math." Such a shame.

mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:14 pm

Bc everybody is like that guy.....smdh

SonoranBloom Formerly cowtown2
07/28/15 11:26 pm

I have also personally witnessed this. I have family who are careful not to earn too much or they'll lose their welfare. Also, a bit off topic, but if the $15 min wage spreads beyond Seattle, people (myself included) will lose their jobs.

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 9:08 am

That article had so much hard data to back up its allegation that I was left breathless. Here, I'll write one too. In an unexpected turn of events, the higher minimum wage in Seattle is causing ring tailed foxes to urinate in trash bins.

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Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 9:08 am

Several areas have reported that some fixes have found that urinating in trash bins is helping them with their glaucoma which is being caused by the increase minimum wage. One facility confirmed I had seen these foxes peeing in

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 9:08 am

trash bins shortly after a Sasquatch had gone through it. True story.

political Georgia
07/28/15 9:11 am

If you use logic, this isn't far fetched at all.

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 9:19 am

The foxes or the people in the original article? 😏
I use logic a lot. My logic alert went off when the article made claims without quoting anyone or citing actual facts. Facts are cool. They help with logic a lot.

swervin Maryland
07/28/15 10:40 am

I love how democrats are getting super defensive about this! "oh mer gawd, people we are trying to help are abusing the system, it can't be true! Let's make a stupid point to try to distract people from the truth!"

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 10:40 am

Truth. You use that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 10:42 am

And who are you calling a democrat. I thought you hated being mislabeled a liberal. Now you're doing it? I see you've joined the ranks of your own enemies.

swervin Maryland
07/28/15 10:56 am

I got called a liberal by cowboy...totally different situation. You are saying there is not one single person who abuses the system? Come on, is your head buried that far in the sand?

Ru12bseen Ignoring the Ignorant
07/28/15 11:08 am

Of course that's not what I'm saying. That'd be silly. The article implies its epidemic, however. That's the problem. The article is all implications and supposition. No facts. That's my only issue. If there's a real problem, I do want to know.

MrMilkdud
07/28/15 8:54 am

"I told you so"

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PyroSadist like my comments follow
07/28/15 8:53 am

Fix the welfare system and the problem is gone. Welfare was never meant to be a long term assistance program.

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 9:06 am

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PyroSadist like my comments follow
07/28/15 9:27 am

Doubt that would do much. The average net worth of a congressman is just over 1 million

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 10:52 am

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Mark3
07/28/15 8:46 am

Theory, meet Reality.

Again the model is not predictive and is thus proven wrong.

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iPolitix Political Party Animal
07/28/15 8:29 am

Seattle is just getting what they deserve. 😜

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ikeurban21 B L C
07/28/15 8:21 am

$15 min wage will be a disaster

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Handstand .
07/28/15 7:43 am

"Some workers". It would hold more water if actual stats were used rather than "some workers".

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 8:07 am

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JennaF sunflower state of mind
07/28/15 8:08 am

What handstand said.

iPolitix Political Party Animal
07/28/15 8:27 am

What Nemacyst said

TheCameron UCF
07/28/15 9:24 am

What Jenna said.

political Georgia
07/28/15 10:25 am

What Nemmy said.

SFLiberal
07/28/15 2:40 pm

What Handstand said.

JennaF sunflower state of mind
07/28/15 2:41 pm

I've created a monster

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 3:48 pm

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mynamehere69 South Carolina
07/28/15 4:21 pm

Some workers is a big talking point now. Even though they have no facts to back it in the no spin zone. As usual. Lol

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 4:24 pm

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theW0lf Leader of the Pack
07/28/15 7:39 am

Not living on welfare would be a dream!

iPolitix Political Party Animal
07/28/15 8:28 am

The American Dream has changed greatly under Obama 😓

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 8:42 am

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EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
07/28/15 7:23 am

AHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Welcome to not living on the government! You wanted money? You got money. AHAHAHAHAHHAH!

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
07/28/15 8:07 am

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political Georgia
07/28/15 7:22 am

So much for a livable wage and bringing "millions" out of poverty as Bernie Sanders has said.

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think4yourself Not a safe space
07/28/15 8:43 am

True. This was very predictable to most of us.

swervin Maryland
07/28/15 10:53 am

Can you provide a link for those of us on the web version?