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Show Of Hands July 28th, 2015 1:42am

Should autonomous weapons (that use artificial intelligence to identify and fire on targets) be banned?

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RadicalJack Anarcho Syndicalist
08/08/15 3:03 am

Jaaa them and remotely operated weapons. Cough drones cough

CharMartel
08/07/15 8:09 pm

We've seen what happens in terminator

LordAF
07/29/15 8:33 pm

Only if they can be proven efficient. Furthermore, the party in possession/control of the system should be held responsible for any unnecessary damage caused by such systems.
(also, please no terminators ;) haha)

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NukaCherry The Commonwealth
07/29/15 5:03 pm

"The right to bear arms shall not be infringed"

14573 Scary Numbers
07/29/15 7:00 pm

This is referring to military use. The constitution was referring to private gun ownership.

14573 Scary Numbers
07/29/15 7:01 pm

Weaponized emps aren't in use.

TexasBOS Not in the city
07/29/15 7:20 pm

Automated weapon systems would expedite the production of weaponized emps. Not difficult in theory as long as you don't have anything vulnerable in range you would like to keep intact.

14573 Scary Numbers
07/29/15 7:22 pm

There is no current method of producing an emp. The only know way of making an emp is with a nuclear bomb.

14573 Scary Numbers
07/29/15 7:27 pm

Well there are other ways but they're horrendously inefficient. You'd be better off shooting the drone down with traditional ballistics than with an emp

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
07/29/15 10:31 am

Terrorists be on notice. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck..... Kaboom! Time to meet Alah in hell. Not to be used in the U.S. Though.

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yepnope Maryland
07/28/15 11:18 pm

In what context? War no. American civilians yes.

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DracoNapo California
07/28/15 9:14 pm

War will use its inhumanity. We'll treat it as a video game, as if no one is actually dying.

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briebb DC
07/28/15 2:34 pm

This sounds pretty reasonable, truely.

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superfish89 st. louis
07/28/15 2:05 pm

We don't need another massive arms race.

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IwillTrollYou Paradise
07/28/15 4:34 pm

Too late because we have had weapons like this for years.

IwillTrollYou Paradise
07/28/15 4:56 pm

I guess you can't google it and see that I am giving you the truth. Just ask the military about this technology. They have been using it for years.

superfish89 st. louis
07/28/15 5:06 pm

Just because it exists does not mean there is an arms race. I was surprised anyone could think that, so I assumed you were trolling. Sorry, I'll try not to be surprised by ignorance next time.

eradicator JC
07/28/15 11:31 am

PLEASE PUT DOWN YOUR WEAPON. YOU HAVE TWENTY SECONDS TO COMPLY.

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eradicator JC
07/28/15 6:53 pm

YOU NOW HAVE FIFTEEN SECONDS TO COMPLY.

TheRealEman Virginia
07/28/15 11:00 am

If drones are banned, what would Obama use to kill civilians in the Middle East?

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tackle Earth
07/28/15 10:29 am

I'd hope they are defensive weapons. But what am I gonna do

BatmansParents Monarch Theater
07/28/15 10:01 am

Terminators 1-3 is why no one should say yes to this

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ladyniner81 I hate people
07/28/15 12:03 pm

I feel a Terminator marathon coming on...I WILL BE BACK!!!

IwillTrollYou Paradise
07/28/15 4:36 pm

I say yes to this because it's what protects our military and has for years.

bryceman101 Catholic
07/28/15 7:19 am

I'd love to be able to shoot home invaders without getting out of bed!

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Constitution Dallas, Texas
07/28/15 5:10 am

41% of Republicans and Libertarians are not Republicans and Libertarians

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ParaguasPato Columbus GA
07/28/15 10:00 am

Why is that? Do you believe that wanting a human in charge of these very dangerous weapons makes someone leftist?

Schleida
07/28/15 4:34 am

Not forever. Maybe now but when it improves it should be deployed but not now.

IwillTrollYou Paradise
07/28/15 4:36 pm

It has been deployed for years and has worked great. Just ask the military guys who's lives have been saved by it.

Schleida
07/28/15 5:10 pm

I am sure it does. But the decision making should get better. Not pointing and firing. Until then it should be under strict supervision and under human control.

sdbrev210 The Pursuit of Happiness
07/28/15 4:24 am

Yes, but that won't stop them from being developed and implemented. Just make sure you're on the right side of the robot.

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
07/28/15 4:03 am

Ships need to shoot down incoming missiles before people even know it's coming

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drself Gated Community
07/28/15 2:55 am

US Navy torpedoes do this. We can't ban torpedoes.

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Nos4at2 demented weirdo
07/27/15 11:34 pm

No, but who really needs it unless there is a physical handicap, if you can't control your firearm then you need better training.

Congressman Louisiana
07/28/15 1:43 am

Who said it has anything to do with control? It's called... Wait for it.... FUN.

Nos4at2 demented weirdo
07/28/15 3:10 am

The fun is in mastering your firearm without the cheat codes. That would be like putting a player piano into the Boston symphony. It's the daily attention to your craft that makes it worthwhile.

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
07/28/15 4:05 am

We are not just talking about hand weapons. Some things need a quick and accurate response while we are taking a dump etc.

Nos4at2 demented weirdo
07/28/15 4:15 am

Well in that case absolutely NOT, the countries that accept and follow the ban are susceptible to the terroristic ones which will just ignore it.

JHawk3205 MD
07/27/15 10:14 pm

Automatic tracking is fine, but verification and firing should be human interfaced

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trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/28/15 12:39 am

Agreed. Humans can make judgements, computers don't

TheIndian Virgo Supercluster
07/28/15 12:59 am

Advanced ai's would be able to make decisions as effectively as humans but I agree autonomous weapons are an insanely an idiotic idea to use against earthlings (of all species), save them for hostile aliens

JHawk3205 MD
07/28/15 10:15 am

I mean, there are already some autonomous weapons out there, some of which are pretty badass, but morally speaking, we should hold humans accountable for the action, not the manufacture. Or at least primarily the action

Zod Above Pugetropolis
07/27/15 10:04 pm

No, for the same reason autonomous cars shouldn't be banned, and autonomous aircraft have been getting us where we need to go for decades. Properly programmed and deployed, they would be more efficient and less likely to make "mistakes" than humans.

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Esha
07/28/15 5:33 pm

Those are for transportation.

iceberg124
07/27/15 9:52 pm

I don't think other countries would follow that rule

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htcbump Florida
07/27/15 9:50 pm

Ok, so if used in NY, the can only have seven rounds, be semi-automatic and not look scary. (SAFE Act).

curly
07/27/15 9:26 pm

Not banned, but they should require human authorization before firing on targets. As in, they're in autonomous as far as locating a target, but ask permission from a human operator before engaging.

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IwillTrollYou Paradise
07/28/15 4:39 pm

I disagree. There are missiles that will hit their targets before a person can say yes. That's the reason it isn't used like you want in the military.

hbpole FoCo
07/27/15 8:57 pm

There is so much oversight on collateral damage involved in military strikes, it scares me to think what might happen if that is ever taken out of the picture (intentionally or otherwise)

dominiclandry
07/27/15 8:34 pm

S-K-Y-N-E-T

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PrinceOberyn Here I am Here I Remain
07/27/15 7:53 pm

We should kill this in the cradle and prevent unnecessary tragedy down the line. Keep AI out of weaponry in all scenarios, both domestic and militarily.

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PrinceOberyn Here I am Here I Remain
07/27/15 7:56 pm

Or to annoy everyone and put in twitterspeak: #ImplementTheFirstLawOfRobotics #TheButlerianJihad #RogerRoger

tidford My little piece of heaven
07/27/15 7:45 pm

MAD worked because it was mutual.

Well intention folks can make all the noise they want about banning what is essentially a software update, but they can't keep bad folks from updating software when the advantage assures them of victory & your death

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DuckAndCower
07/27/15 7:40 pm

If you make autonomous weapons illegal, then only criminals will have autonomous weapons.

RedHale Texas
07/27/15 7:29 pm

The humanity should not be taken out of war.

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thelowend imitation is flattery
07/27/15 7:34 pm

I am completely against war but could t agree more with this comment. scary implications.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
07/27/15 10:29 pm

Have you seen pics and vids from war showing what humanity does to each other? War won't miss humanity

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
07/27/15 7:28 pm

If the weapon is offensive in nature and designed to be used on individual humans, then it should be illegal. However, autonomous defensive weapons that can only shoot down other weapons (like the US Navy's CIWS family) should remain legal.

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blackb7
07/27/15 7:24 pm

For regular civilians, yes.

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RB20 Indiana
07/27/15 8:57 pm

I loathe people like you who somehow believe civilians are inferior beings to anybody who is in the government

Esha
07/28/15 5:34 pm

Why does a civilian need one? Killing lots of people.

RB20 Indiana
07/28/15 5:38 pm

Because I have the right to own a weapon whether it be because I want to, or because of self defense. You have no business telling me about my personal right to self defense. Why does the gov. Need one? Killing lots of people

612
07/27/15 7:20 pm

Uh, like, for your average-joe American citizen? Yeah I guess I think those should not be allowed.

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
07/27/15 7:18 pm

I'm going to go ahead and agree with Musk, Wosniak, and Hawking on this one and ban this shit outright now before it's too late.

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EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
07/27/15 7:14 pm

CIWS. No.
AEGIS. No.
LAWS. No.

A system designed to fire on humans... Yes.

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suppressedID Happy Year of Tiger
07/27/15 7:13 pm

Do NOT pave the way for SkyNet!!

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thelowend imitation is flattery
07/27/15 7:17 pm

was JUST going to post this.

JamesStL
07/27/15 7:08 pm

If people can hack a Jeep to randomly turn on accessories while driving down the road, I'd hate have the Terminator giving me the evil eye for no reason.

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EquaISideEcon more conservative than u
07/27/15 6:55 pm

Should X be banned? Does it violate life liberty or property? If yes ban the fuck out of it, if no let it be.

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Nova2
07/27/15 6:59 pm

I like your flowcharting logic

EquaISideEcon more conservative than u
07/27/15 7:01 pm

You better I have fabulous flow charts

tkmurph
07/27/15 6:50 pm

Imagine the cyberterrorist threat that could emerge, takes one really skilled hacker group to take over our bots and use them against civilians. Let's wait until we can keep information safe before we use robots to fight for us.

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