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rebelfury76 July 27th, 2015 8:35pm

Limiting magazine (that's the "clip" for all the half informed opinionated folks) capacity is a nonsense move and would do nothing to limit mass shooting casualties. I can execute a mag change, bring a weapon from click to bang, in less than 3 secs.

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Liberty 4,032,064
07/28/15 10:04 am

"Duh" would definitely be the appropriate response here, haha.

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Liberty 4,032,064
07/28/15 10:06 am

Also, you could probably switch magazines faster if you put the rounds in ahead of time ;)

ImageAccess
07/27/15 8:20 pm

After having read some of the responses, I'd like to add...

I can dump my primary, pull my secondary and continue firing in far less than three seconds. A tac reload for someone even mildly boneheaded, shouldn't take 3 seconds.

knetzere Illinois
07/27/15 2:58 pm

long vid but it's good

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnsBH9jGxc

The untrained shooter fired the same amount of rounds with reloads in just over 3 seconds slower. Not enough time for any action from a bystande

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corino Utah
07/27/15 2:41 pm

Only if you believe in having armed citizens defend themselves. 3 seconds is a lot if I'm going to shoot back, it's zilch if I'm going to sprint out of the room or summon police.

MrMilkdud
07/27/15 1:55 pm

But those big clips are so scary!!!

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rickvee Living the dream
07/27/15 1:55 pm

Three seconds is an eternity in a firefight... If you can say your first and last name between click and bang, you need practice.

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rickvee Living the dream
07/27/15 3:26 pm

Chair Force... I'm surprised you know which end the death comes out of 😜

voc I am...what I am
07/27/15 1:53 pm

Absolutely right. Slowpoke.

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voc I am...what I am
07/27/15 1:57 pm

That's ok, I'm only fast in call of duty.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 1:45 pm

1....


2.....

3....

That's a long time.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 2:00 pm

I can lock the front door in that time. A kid can make it to another room in that time. A mom can shield her child in that time. 3 seconds can save a life.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/27/15 2:32 pm

The worst part is you're serious

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 2:36 pm

Dead ass. 3 seconds is a long time.

corino Utah
07/27/15 2:42 pm

I call BS, you cannot exit the room you are in in 3 seconds. You loose a third of that time just realizing that you need to leave the room.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 2:47 pm

Still gives me 2 seconds. Not only that, but I would be a moving target. A little tough for an unstable person to hit..

Time yourself. See how quick you can move. Then imagine adrenaline and an instinct to run. You'll be surprised how fast you go.

knetzere Illinois
07/27/15 3:00 pm

Even less than 3 seconds

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnsBH9jGxc

The untrained shooter fired the same amount of rounds with reloads in just over 3 seconds slower. Not enough time for any action from a bystander

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 3:09 pm

1. Seeing law enforcement give a breakdown on how to kill someone is disheartening
2. Jim seems pretty well trained. The exact opposite of most of these mass murderers.
3. Rebel said 3 seconds, not the average time Jim takes to reload.

knetzere Illinois
07/27/15 3:10 pm

Did you stop at jim? They continue with Christie

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/27/15 3:18 pm

Beach are you really going to ride this to the bitter end? This is a foolish line you're taking.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 3:26 pm

That 3 seconds is a long time? Rickvee said it above but I'm the only one that is wrong? 3 seconds is a long time. Yes, I'll ride that one out.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/27/15 3:26 pm

And I know it's a long time because that's a long time in a lot more than shooting

knetzere Illinois
07/27/15 3:33 pm

It's really not that long. I know I couldn't get from a covered position to an individual 10ft away in 3 seconds. It would probably take that long just to realize they are reloading.

corino Utah
07/27/15 3:42 pm

Keep in mind that the police won't be on scene for 5 minutes.

corino Utah
07/27/15 3:48 pm

So by passing a law (and assuming the bad guy obeys this law (name any mass shooting where that happened)) you have reduced the amount of time you have to survive less than 2%.

corino Utah
07/27/15 3:49 pm

And none of this I have time to run away garbage mass shooters have legs too.

knetzere Illinois
07/27/15 3:58 pm

You would be better off if they had one of those ridiculous 100rd drum mags. The extra weight would take them longer to transition from target to target and it would probably jam 8 rounds in

Fjolsvin Midgard
07/27/15 1:43 pm

3 seconds... you need to work on your tactical mag swaps...then again so do I.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/27/15 1:54 pm

I'm in the air force what do you want ;)

Fjolsvin Midgard
07/27/15 3:05 pm

In that case 3 seconds is just fine. I've always found the m9 to be a bit clunky as compared to other side arms I've used. Particularly without the flared mag well and the issue m-16/m-4 much the same when not equipped with the mag guide.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/27/15 3:20 pm

I despise the m9. Much prefer my kimber

knetzere Illinois
07/27/15 4:00 pm

I like my 92. 1911s don't fit my hand that well