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Show Of Hands July 26th, 2015 11:49pm

U.S. ally Israel is clearly unhappy with the deal to lift sanctions against Iran. If they conduct a cyber-attack against Iran's nuclear capabilities in the near future, should we support them?

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males
07/30/15 3:35 pm

This is a joke. We cannot jeopardize the very existence of our main Ally. I cannot believe that our leadership is so idealistic that they would risk something so drastic. It would almost be funny if it wasn't real life.

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
07/30/15 11:09 am

I stopped reading the comments because they got too hateful.
"The Palestinians are terrorists, they elected Hamas"
"You're a Nazi!"
"You're ugly ""no,YOU'RE ugly""no you are" "i know you are but what am I?" *sticks out tongue*
That's what you sound

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
07/30/15 11:12 am

Like. Some of you support Israel, and some of you support Palestine. But hopefully, no one supports Hamas. But the question is about Iran, and some are afraid Iran will attack them. And if they do, they'll also get Palestine. radiation tra

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
07/30/15 11:16 am

Travels. And if they have problems with another country, and their leader is as whacked as Abedjerhoweveryouspellhisname, he could nuke them too. And who would they blame? And it,would turn into WW3. I hope not. I'd think no one would want to

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
07/30/15 11:17 am

Use them because no one wants to die from radiation poisoning. But what do politicians care. They got their little bunkers

Striker1435 Texas
07/29/15 4:26 pm

Someone give me a good reason why we shouldn't support Israel trying to defend themselves from the very people who have gone on the record several times stating they'd love nothing more than to obliterate Israel entirely. Someone? Anyone?

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Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/29/15 5:51 pm

Have you ever heard of the 6 Days War? It lasted, you guessed it, 6 days. What happened was the Arab countries thought they could invade Israel and reclaim "what was rightfully theirs." Israel kicked the shit out of every invading force and actually

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/29/15 5:54 pm

acquired land as a result of the conflict. Bottom line is Israel has established itself as an elite military force. We've given them unfathomable amounts of money and tech to the point that they're at the same level as us now. They can absolutely

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/29/15 5:55 pm

get by without us holding their hand

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 3:35 pm

The 6 days war. I think God was on Israels side. The land was never the Arabs. It belonged to the Jews. It was transferred to British control after WW2 and Britain laid out Israel. It's not the Arabs land

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 3:37 pm

They could but we need to keep supporting Israel bcuz it's in our interest to. The have a strategic location and we need a better foot hold in the war on Terror

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 5:39 pm

That's why I put "rightfully theirs" in quotations. And do you know how many FOB's we have in the Middle East? A lot. We have a lot. Don't even get me started on the war on terror

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 5:41 pm

We do but not in good areas all the time. We r a superpower. We need to live up to the task. And Israel is not at the same level as we r

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 5:51 pm

Two things about being a "superpower":
1. It in no way makes us responsible for another country's political or social or economic climate
2. It costs hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars to maintain combat readiness and upkeep the military

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 5:52 pm

More money is spent on health care programs and more money is lost with environmental laws and and over regulation of business. Maybe we should start with that.

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 6:04 pm

I agree we need to reform/repeal some illogical policies. However, we spend over $600 billion of taxpayer money on the military. The next largest department, budget wise, is education at only $720 million.....

Captainbstring Biden is a Clown
07/29/15 10:39 am

Anything Israel does to Iran is fine by me.

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Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/29/15 8:18 am

We've given enough to Israel. We need to cut ties and let them do them.

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Striker1435 Texas
07/29/15 4:18 pm

Yes, by all means cut ties to our only democratic ally in the region.

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 3:37 pm

And remove our foothold in the frontlines of the war on terror. Real smart. Sometimes u neoliberals make me laugh

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 5:32 pm

It's funny because I'm a libertarian, not a liberal. When I say cut ties, I mean cut the billions upon billions of dollars we send them every year. We keep them as an ally, but quit giving them money we can't afford to give them.

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 5:39 pm

We can afford to give them. They r the only real democracy in the area and we need them to be strong. They barely were able to survive without us and we need them to have a good army

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 5:45 pm

We can afford to give them money????? Have you seen our National Debt? We need to support Israel becoming independent. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, you're just regurgitating Faux News

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 5:47 pm

And Israel is slowly becoming independent. They r. Our national dept was because of all the new programs Obama put. And a little bcuz of bush's Iraq war. Israel we can afford. It's other things we need to cut

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 5:55 pm

Our national debt is a result of both Bush and Obama's ineptitude to properly set a budget. Yes, they're both equally responsible. The last I checked, we owe over $18 Trillion. That's 12 zeros.

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 5:56 pm

But what you're telling me is we should support Israel before we support ourselves.

delta3204 CA
07/30/15 6:01 pm

Supporting Israel is supporting ourselves. Good foothold in that volitile area. Closer to the middle eastern oil fields. There's probably more that we don't know about.

Volunteer14 Big Orange Country
07/30/15 6:06 pm

Oh okay so you support foreign dependence for oil....

Bradyxyz
09/11/16 12:02 pm

You may or may not be aware that Israel spends about 75% of US military aid it receives in the US. The United States benefits through jobs, technology, testing grounds and intelligence

herro
07/29/15 8:14 am

If they do that, then they're basically reducing themselves to terrorists. Attacking a nuclear program, even as a cyber attack, can have catastrophic results. If Israel does that, then they've become what they hated, do no,
We shouldn't back them.

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delta3204 CA
07/30/15 3:38 pm

Not unless they stop the research with cyber warfare. Israel won't be the terrorists then and they aren't. It's Iran who is

jamjay Atlanta, Ga
07/29/15 6:49 am

Since Israel is Right and Obama is a Big Dummy.....I am thinking Yah.

Rotavele Alabama
07/29/15 1:11 am

Then tell them to put sanctions on Iran without us. They're our allies, not our leadership.

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delta3204 CA
07/30/15 3:39 pm

Guess what it's gonna be had for us also if the sanctions come off

Bagreen Texas
07/28/15 9:52 pm

I guess you people aren't tired of sending our children to die fighting wars for Israel. All you have to do is follow the money and you'll see who benefits from war in the Middle East.

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larrylobster Wisconsin
07/28/15 8:43 pm

How is it just their problem when they are our ally! People face the facts they are our ally put yourself in their shoes and think again!

Rotavele Alabama
07/29/15 1:06 am

Ally, not overlords.

We're allowed to do stuff without their approval.

Rotavele Alabama
07/29/15 1:08 am

And we shouldn't support them attacking someone just because we won't do something to hurt that nation's economy,

Striker1435 Texas
07/29/15 4:23 pm

Iran has stated on several occasions they'd love nothing more than to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. That is a fact. Why would anyone in their right minds blame Israel for doing whatever they can to prevent Iran's nuclear proliferation?

JointOps07 North Carolina
07/28/15 12:14 pm

The Governmental political position aside, why wouldn't we? They are an long time ally in the generally anti-American Middle East. Yet we still chose to jump into bed with their enemy.

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Rotavele Alabama
07/29/15 1:07 am

If it doesn't make sense, turn off Fox News, and look up why we're doing what we're doing.

It seems "they're just dumb and not as smart as I" is an acceptable answer to too many people.

secondamendment
07/28/15 8:24 am

Why should we be getting involved in other countries' problems. Costs money and soldiers' lives

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berko NY
07/28/15 1:23 pm

Did you notice that the question was about a cyber attack?

larrylobster Wisconsin
07/28/15 8:41 pm

Plus that's what our soldiers sign up for man, at least some of them. To be put out in the action to help people maybe not in our country but round the world!

bigtaterman Kentucky
07/27/15 5:46 pm

Let them fight their own wars. It costs us too much money.

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ArceusBlitz Left wing Libertarian
07/27/15 5:08 pm

We need to stop getting involved in Israel and all these other countries in the middle East...

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dessy Indiana cornfield
07/27/15 4:48 pm

That's there problem. We shouldn't interfere.

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Tesla Florida
07/27/15 2:24 pm

We shouldn't support Israel period.

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Tesla Florida
07/30/15 12:11 am

They're horrible people. Have you seen what's been done to Palestine?

Zardoz California native
07/27/15 12:05 pm

Don't support, but don't interfere either.

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HitlerWasRight 4th Reich Now
07/27/15 8:32 am

No, there's no reason to incite violence and get involved with their jew vs muslim war.

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berko NY
07/28/15 1:24 pm

That's an incredibly insensitive comment. This is not a "Jew vs. Muslim" war, this is a situation where one country has openly threatened the other and has funded terrorist groups to attack it, while the other has merely tried to defend itself.

cowboy Doors of Perception
07/27/15 6:14 am

I would. Our terrorist sympathizing President wouldn't.

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KilgoreTheTrout Pennsylvania
08/01/15 1:59 pm

This is a breathtakingly stupid comment.

cowboy Doors of Perception
08/03/15 2:48 am

You misspelled correct.

Diknak Ohio
07/27/15 5:44 am

hell no, we need to stay out of that war hungary area.

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BatmansParents Monarch Theater
07/27/15 10:17 am

Hungary is a country

hbpole FoCo
07/27/15 4:01 am

If they want to do that they can go ahead, but since it's just a cyber attacking they don't need our "support"

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mynewipad north of southern calif
07/27/15 3:52 am

We can't support Israel if it unilaterally goes on the offensive. We get nothing from supporting them but would pay a heavy cost in lost credibility. I don't understand why the U.S. favors Israel over all others in the Middle East.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 7:05 am

It's not unilateral. Iran's militant arm, Hezbollah, has been firing rockets at Israeli civilians for decades.

BatmansParents Monarch Theater
07/27/15 10:18 am

Plus they have the only un rigged election system in the entire Middle East

berko NY
07/28/15 1:26 pm

Plus they have also funded another terrorist organization, Hamas, in their efforts to launch missiles into Israel

ProbablyEug Oakland
07/27/15 12:42 am

If we ink a deal with a country we should not turn around and attack them. That can only be bad for us, and it shows our word means nothing.

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monstermom Washington
07/27/15 9:16 am

Why would anyone support inking a deal with known terrorists in the first place? I stand with Israel, our democratic ally, who is on the receiving end of death threats from these terrorists daily.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/26/15 11:43 pm

Israel should attack Iran with weapons, not code.

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ClashOfClans
07/27/15 1:43 am

This is 2015

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 1:44 am

Yes. Israel has some very advanced weapons that are not code.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/26/15 10:29 pm

Attacks us, lies to us, uses us. "Shining beacon of democracy".

indie California
07/26/15 11:30 pm

SonOfMetal, we know you're a fucking Nazi or Radical Islamist. Just admit it.

TheATLAS Georgia
07/26/15 11:52 pm

It's getting old hearing such a lineal way of looking at things. "If it isn't supporting Democracy then it's an evil communist." Believe it, there's a world out there bigger than the U.S , and there are many different ways to do something that works.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 8:06 am

I'm neither a nazi nor an Islamist. Hard to be a nazi when I am strongly against genocide and nationalism. Hard to be an Islamist when I'm not a Muslim. Simple minded insults from a simple minded person.

bigmac2016
07/26/15 9:10 pm

Israel better start respecting us. I'm tired of them taking our tax dollars and weapons and then betraying us. If we don't start standing up to them they'll destroy us.

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
07/27/15 12:02 am

When Obama disses their president on open microphones? And supports financial deals with Iran? Israel's only hope is that Iran is farther away from the Bomb than Jan 22 2017.

Kristabell Kentucky
07/27/15 4:53 am

I don't know where you got your bullshit statistic. Israel hands over all their enriched uranium; they aren't allowed to produce a fraction of enough for a decade.

jDinOR Oregon
07/26/15 8:37 pm

“Known unknowns and there are Unknown unknowns.”

Spiritof76 USA 1776
07/26/15 8:37 pm

They better be 100% damn sure of Iran starting up their nuclear program to provoke such an attack. Even if they're 100% I'd still weigh the pros and cons of lending our support.

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
07/27/15 12:19 pm

What makes you think they've stopped?

TheRealEman Virginia
07/26/15 8:30 pm

Why support aggression?

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/26/15 11:41 pm

Because setting up Iran as a regional power was politically expedient to the Obama administration.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 6:06 am

Yes. It's why Obama supported aggression.

TheRealEman Virginia
07/27/15 10:29 am

That doesn't make it our fault. If Iran does something bad, that's their fault. Plain and simple.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 7:19 pm

Is it, though? This "deal" has installed Iran as a regional power and made it possible for them to misbehave on a grand scale. They've been consistently misbehaving to the best of their capacity for decades now.

TheRealEman Virginia
07/28/15 9:43 pm

Not really...that's the whole point of this deal. To make sure they DONT misbehave on a grand scale.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 10:20 pm

No, that's the lie you have been told about the deal. The function is to install a terrorist state as a regional power in the Middle East.

Wooperth Blue Dog Democrat
07/26/15 8:20 pm

This question uses some biased phrasing... who made this poll?

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Wooperth Blue Dog Democrat
07/27/15 6:27 am

He phrases 'ally' and 'clearly unhappy'.

EarthMunkey The Golden Rule. Always.
07/26/15 8:17 pm

I wish we'd just let them hang themselves.

They need walk the walk... They are nothing without us.

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roybiker12
07/26/15 8:10 pm

Since Obama has now sold us down the river, Israel is our next best hope.

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roybiker12
07/26/15 8:04 pm

We should always support Israel against the barbarians.

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SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/26/15 10:01 pm

Okay Caesar. Go get those big bad barbarians

Brrrrrrrrr
07/26/15 7:17 pm

I'd support them if they conducted a cyber attack on 0bama.

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AbandonedAccnt Not here.
07/26/15 7:26 pm

Obama would be pissed once he learned about it from the news.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
07/26/15 7:11 pm

I support Israel a lot more than I support the us.

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RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 7:17 pm

What in the what?

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
07/26/15 7:25 pm

No suitcase. This my right to bitch about everything and then collect free bennies too.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 7:36 pm

I'm just going to assume that in saying "than I support the US", you meant "than I support the current US government". Unless you're going full rogue on us. Which is totally your right.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
07/26/15 7:50 pm

Gov is a reflection of the people in a democratic society. Our Gov sucks because the people suck. People complain about Obama, but fail to recognize that it takes majority of Americans to be equally idiotic for Obama to get elected.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
07/26/15 7:52 pm

Israel has very legitimate security interests while America goes about waging unjust war after unjust war. We have gallons of blood on our hands whilst making pusillanimous agreements with countries like Iran.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
07/26/15 7:58 pm

I'm heading to bed now and won't respond again til tomorrow. Thanks Rode for your civil discourse, as always. I wish more were like you.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 8:16 pm

I may not agree with you there, but I have to recognize the amazing use of pusillanimous. You're elevating things to another level with words like that.

castellanos North Metro Phoenix, AZ
07/26/15 11:54 pm

Is it because Netanyahu wants to merge church and state?

castellanos North Metro Phoenix, AZ
07/26/15 11:55 pm

I did answer yes to this question, but only because I know Israel is much better to us than Iran. However, I am not a supporter of Netanyahu.

palindrome California
07/26/15 7:08 pm

No. Flat out. No

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RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 6:48 pm

Wow, choice comment from a thread below, "I'm not Jewish, but I appreciate Israel and know what constitutes a real Jew and not just someone who has Jew in their blood. "
Where do these folks come from?

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political Georgia
07/26/15 6:44 pm

Israel is right on this.

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Liberty 4,032,064
07/26/15 6:39 pm

Sure, if you'd like to support them. That's your decision to make.

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dudley northern Virginia woods
07/26/15 6:30 pm

We support Israel no matter what

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Wooperth Blue Dog Democrat
07/26/15 8:22 pm

So if Israel tried to do genocide you would support that?

dudley northern Virginia woods
07/26/15 9:19 pm

Self-preservation ,yes. No matter what.they were once victims of attempted genocide . No more. Not again.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/26/15 10:03 pm

Is the slow genocide in Palestinian Territories self preservation?

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/26/15 10:04 pm

The holocaust doesn't give them a green card for anything for the rest of eternity.

WorstGooEver Nuke the Hurricanes
07/26/15 11:26 pm

The words "no matter what" should never be used.... no matter what.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/26/15 11:45 pm

"Is the slow genocide in Palestinian Territories self preservation?"

As long as the Palestinians keep electing terrorist organizations as their government, yes.

delta3204 CA
07/27/15 1:28 am

The Palestinians r the ones sending rockets into Israel. Israel just responds

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 8:08 am

Israel's civilian kill rate is way more than Hamas lol. Also, Hitler, you can't just genocide people who elect groups you don't like regardless.

dudley northern Virginia woods
07/27/15 12:34 pm

That's right, Delta. And Israel doesn't store munitions in schools and places where there is a civilian population.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 3:03 pm

"Israel's civilian kill rate is way more than Hamas lol."

That's because the people killing Israelis are civilians.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 3:03 pm

"Also, Hitler, you can't just genocide people who elect groups you don't like regardless."

I'm not the one backing groups currently trying to commit genocide against innocent Jews.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 3:03 pm

The Palestinians elected Hamas on the "we kill Israeli schoolchildren" platform. Their civilian populace poses a national security threat to Israel.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 3:29 pm

You're right, you're advocating the genocide of Palestinians. Also you need to fact check your boot licking. Look at the statistics of casualties. And also you still believe that "weapons in schools and hospitals" propaganda? That was investigated

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 3:31 pm

And disproven by a dozen nations... Mostly "allied" too. Anyway you wanna justify it, your accepting murder and the mistreatment of others. It is what it is. You're no better.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 3:39 pm

Let me be more correct in saying there was evidence of a SINGLE incident where weapons were being transported through a school, not even intentionally left. But that single report is a nationalist best friend, then they generalized the whole conflict

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 3:41 pm

And I called you Hitler not in the literal sense but because of your nazi like ability to ignore, justify, and white wash atrocity on other human beings.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 5:04 pm

"You're right, you're advocating the genocide of Palestinians."

Only if they keep electing terrorist organizations as their government. In that case, it's justified by self defense.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 5:05 pm

"Also you need to fact check your boot licking."

I might say the same to you. You're licking the blood of children off terrorist boots.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 5:05 pm

"Look at the statistics of casualties."

I have.

"And also you still believe that 'weapons in schools and hospitals' propaganda?"

Hard not to when you've seen video of rockets being launched from the roof of a hospital.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/27/15 5:07 pm

"Anyway you wanna justify it, your accepting murder and the mistreatment of others."

I'm justifying Israel fighting a war back against people who literally will not be satisfied until the Jewish people are extinguished from the Earth.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 5:54 pm

Essentially all you did was just take my rebuttal and say "no you are". If you're going to make a point without evidence, I will dismiss it without evidence. Also, you clearly do not understand not all Palestinians are Hamas. You might as well be a

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 5:56 pm

Nationalist since you deal in generalizations. I wonder if you realize how low the numbers of Hamas were until Israel started bombing again. Do you even know now? If you think they are all Hamas you are waaaaaay off target.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/27/15 5:58 pm

Fact of the matter is NO level of "self defense" justifies a genocide. I wouldn't expect a nazi to understand that, but at least entertain the idea. Although every nation who commits it certainly uses "muh self defense!" As their excuse

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 9:44 pm

"Essentially all you did was just take my rebuttal and say 'no you are'."

Well, I also explained WHY, you were...

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 9:44 pm

"If you're going to make a point without evidence, I will dismiss it without evidence."

I made my point with sound argumentation, which you will need to dismiss it.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 9:44 pm

"Also, you clearly do not understand not all Palestinians are Hamas."

I understand that Palestinians ELECTED Hamas. They don't all have to be members to be actively engaged as a people in attempting to eradicate the Jewish people.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 9:45 pm

"I wonder if you realize how low the numbers of Hamas were until Israel started bombing again."

Self defense bombing does not justify genocide against innocent Israeli citizens.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 9:45 pm

"Fact of the matter is NO level of 'self defense' justifies a genocide."

Sorry, that's untrue. If an entire ethnic group is involved in trying to kill innocent civilians, then that entire ethnic group can be killed in self defense until they stop.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/28/15 9:45 pm

We are talking about people who literally elected their representation to murder Israeli school children. How do you justify complaining about the people who bomb THAT?

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 6:55 am

The entire ethnic group ISNT trying to kill off them you nazi twit! If you believe that you are beyond brainwashed. I can't believe how much you are trying to make genocide sound good. I see you haven't looked up those stats yet. Last summer conflict

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:01 am

In wars, people are judged as sides, not as individuals, because it is not possible to judge individually in war. The Palestinians are responsible to stop Hamas from blowing up school kids, not ELECT them to do it!

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:01 am

Hamas fired off rockets that killed 68 Israelis almost ALL of whom were soldiers. Israel responded with dozens upon dozens of rockets that killed 2,130 Palestinians, almost entirely civilians, while their actions increased Hamas membership

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:03 am

Israel will kill Palestinians until Palestinians stop trying to kill innocent Israeli citizens.

Hamas will kill Jews until all the Jews are dead. I'm supporting the former, you're supporting the latter. You are the Nazi.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:03 am

Not to mention the regular rockets Israel sends over into gaza regardless... There's no Israeli genocide occurring. There's no Palestinian settlements or bulldozed Israel homes. There are pissed off Palestinian terrorists because of those things

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:05 am

But if you think anyone but Israel is committing genocide, you truly are brainwashed. I still can't believe you try to blanket statement an entire ethnic group to justify the genocide you enjoy so much. Sickening nazi dog.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:05 am

"Hamas fired off rockets that killed 68 Israelis almost ALL of whom were soldiers."

Being bad at murder is no justification to continue murdering.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:06 am

"Israel responded with dozens upon dozens of rockets that killed 2,130 Palestinians, almost entirely civilians"

Because the Palestinian fighting force is made of civilians, and because they lash children to their launch sites.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:07 am

I'm not the one advocating genocide, nationalism, and uninformed generalizations, you are. You fit much better under the label of nazi. You think this is some kind of religious struggle when it's almost entirely politically motivated.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:07 am

"But if you think anyone but Israel is committing genocide, you truly are brainwashed."

The leaders of Hamas have expressed delight with the Jews moving to Israel so they won't have to hunt them down all over the world. Palestinian genocide of Jews.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:08 am

The day the Palestinians stop shooting, the violence ends.

The day the Israelis stop shooting, the Israel and all the Jews in it end.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:10 am

You are such a dumbass xD Hamas wasn't around "hunting Jews". Jesus how uneducated can you be. And you clearly aren't listening. The casualty reports count Hamas causality separate. I know you love when civilians die, but they arent counted as

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:11 am

"I'm not the one advocating genocide,"

Only upon the condition that they continue to try and kill Israeli citizens.

Why do you think the Palestinians will never stop prosecuting genocide against the Jews? How can you support that?!

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:11 am

Civilians if they are active in the fighting. You really should educate yourself on reality before jumping into these kinds of debates with your emotions and politician bootlicking. Especially when you express how effective you think genocide is

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:14 am

I NEVER said I support Hamas. Nazis are so narrow minded. I support the nonviolent free Palestine movement and I support being informed over being propagandized. I support Palestine rights, their land to not get conquered on and diplomatic compromise

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:14 am

"The casualty reports count Hamas causality separate."

You're a real tool if you think everyone contributing to the effort to kill all the Jews is a member of Hamas.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:14 am

Israel has taken unprecedented steps to spare noncombatants, but the Palestinians "love death more than Israel loves life". That's straight from their creed.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:16 am

Out of both of us YOU are the only one who enjoys the killing and the wars, as you have plainly stated many times within this thread. Go soak your head.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:16 am

Israel warns a building is going to be destroyed, and instead of evacuating, the Palestinians pack it with "civilians" who want to be martyred for PR to batter Israel with. It's sick. It's death worship, to back genocide.

You support real evil.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:17 am

You claim I love killing and wars, but you support the ones who keep the killing and wars going. Hypocrite.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:17 am

1) site that "Palestinian Creed". Please. I'm waiting. 2) I'll take the word of a dozen international investigations over a single nations nazi white washing rhetoric.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:19 am

Did I not just say I support non violence and not Hamas whatsoever? Is it that hard to get it through your thick genocidal skull? I wonder if you realize 22 resolutions by over 34 nations have been passed against Israel's excessive mistreatment

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:20 am

1) palwatch.org/main.aspx?doc_id=8022&fi=157

2) You'll take whatever bolsters your preconceived notions and ignore the truth.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:21 am

Over the Palestinian population since 2000. And only 1 against Palestine. I bet that's some kind of big global "anti Semitic" conspiracy against them huh! Being for the wellbeing of others is so "anti Semitic"! Support peace and you support terror!

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:21 am

You are such a simple minded twit

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:22 am

"Palestinian Watch", seen this before, most of it is opinionated bullshit and things that literally can't be confirmed anywhere else. How about a credible source nazi? Or do you know what that even means.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:24 am

"Did I not just say I support non violence and not Hamas whatsoever?"

Yes, but then you support the people who elected them, so the only rational conclusion is that you have lied.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:26 am

"I wonder if you realize 22 resolutions by over 34 nations"

All with leaders with an axe to grind against Israel. Do you really put any weight on Somali and Libyan and Iranian resolutions against Israel?

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:27 am

You're thought process is so linear it gives me headaches...

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:27 am

"seen this before, most of it is opinionated b******t and things that literally can't be confirmed anywhere else."

It's a direct quote from a statement, you moron!

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:28 am

Most of those nations were from Europe bud. Try again.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:29 am

"You're thought process is so linear it gives me headaches..."

You don't process thought at all. You're just regurgitating. A linear thought process is completely valid and yields excellent results. Your results are pure crap.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:32 am

Lol I like how the nazi says im regurgitating. Brother, I've taken several years to come to this conclusion, I've analyzed both sides critically. I used to support Israel too, because I didn't know anything about the situation. Like you have also

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:32 am

No MOST of them were not. Some included European nations, where antisemitism is reaching early 1900s levels, sure, but the fact of the matter is the resolutions are just leftist bull.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:32 am

This war runs on Palestinian aggression. You want the war to stop? Stop the Palestinians.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:32 am

shown, you are very misinformed and using single state rhetoric to argue the entire thing. You make assumptions by connecting dots that aren't even there...

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:35 am

You attack the supposed source of my rhetoric because you can't attack the content. You chose the evil side of this fight, and it shows in what you can and cannot argue.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:35 am

This is a war of Palestinian aggression against innocents, and justified retaliation. Nothing more.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/29/15 7:37 am

I'll just leave you with this. I feel from what you've given me it sums up your personality pretty well. and advice, fact check your arguments more often lol and just because someone doesn't agree with Israel's genocide, doesn't make them a terrorist

Doopy Remedial Americanism
07/29/15 7:43 am

Or maybe it's real Muslim antisemitism with angry mobs chanting "death to the Jews". Could be that instead of your stupid sitcom reference.

youtu.be/3QljPbI0uGI

RedHale Texas
07/26/15 6:27 pm

No, but we shouldn't be against them either, there's just some things we shouldn't get involved in.

thememguys Memphis
07/26/15 6:24 pm

We need to mind our own business

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JGTheMan Here
07/26/15 6:16 pm

The islamonazis are our sworn enemy. This deal is total capitulation. We need a new president to deal with this mess.

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PoliticalMemes Liberty
07/26/15 6:07 pm

We should stay neutral

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CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
07/26/15 6:08 pm

Lol. The U.S. Government would rather eat it's own dick than remain neutral on anything

shygal47 Florida east coast
07/26/15 6:01 pm

Do unto others ...
Why do we always forget that?

DogeMaster18 Chicago
07/26/15 5:51 pm

I don't think we should support them, but we shouldn't stop them either

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SonofMetal Heavy Metal
07/26/15 5:51 pm

Israel would do anything they can to provoke war with Iran, I wouldn't put a cyber attack below them. It's in Americas best interest to stop being their lapdog and not get ourselves into another pointless and expensive diplomatic/military conflict

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sea California
07/26/15 9:10 pm

Tell us more about why Israel would like a war with Iran...