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polster2 July 26th, 2015 1:54pm

Black Lives Matter is a radical leftist group which assumes that whites are to blame for the violence in black communities, despite the fact that blacks commit 25 times more assaults against whites as whites do against blacks. Is BLM hypocritical?

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BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 10:41 am

So defending life is only a radically leftist idea when it involves black people?

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polster2 US
07/26/15 11:25 am

Defending life simply on the basis of the suspect's race is a radical idea.

polster2 US
07/26/15 11:32 am

After all, police are sometimes justified in using deadly force.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 11:33 am

Polster, do you think democrats are okay with white people getting killed unjustly by police? Because we aren't. The only reason you don't hear about it is because that is not a racial issue, it's a tragedy, but not a political issue.

polster2 US
07/26/15 11:34 am

Why do you assume that race has anything to do with the treatment of blacks killed by police?

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 11:39 am

Because there is still a race issue in America and denying it makes it worse. Everyone has prejudices. I'll confess to locking my car door if a black guy with saggy pants walks by.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 11:39 am

However, we should all be working towards a world where there is no need do that.

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:01 pm

How can you prove that race is still a major issue in America?

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:05 pm

It's certainly not as bad as it was, but I still see racism in everyday life. Just like I just described locking my car door when a black man in saggy pants walks by. That's racism and I admit it.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:05 pm

I'm not racist, but sometimes I do things based on a person's race.

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:06 pm

Not solid enough proof, sorry.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:09 pm

Look, I can't say I see whites only signs anymore, but it's clearly an issue. It's an innate thing that people aren't as vocal about.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:09 pm

Why did my former boss ask a black job candidate if he was ever arrested and not the white one? (In fact the white one had been arrested before and not the black one.)

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 12:13 pm

Polsrer thinks 400 years of racism goes away in 20 years...

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:23 pm

Coincidence could explain a lot.

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:25 pm

The things you use as "evidence" are circumstantial at best.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 12:26 pm

"Not solid enough proof, sorry."

That is tremendously rich coming from a guy who in his last poll said that rumors of what takes place on a video we have not seen is actionable information.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 12:27 pm

But scientific studies showing racial biases, yeah not good enough. If only we all had Polster's arbitrary standards.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:29 pm

As beachst said,how can 400 years of racism be erased in 20 years?Racial profiling on the police force is evidence of racism.By saying that black people are more likely to commit a crime, and, therefore, should be subject to spot searches, is racism.

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:30 pm

Enforcing the law is racist? Wow, you liberals sure are oddballs!

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:31 pm

Enforcing the law is not racist. Racist laws are racist.

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:32 pm

What is the standard for a "racist law?"

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:34 pm

You don't see a double standard? You needed no concrete evidence to state unequivocally that people were being lazy and working less hours because of the new minimum wage, but, now, suddenly, you need concrete evidence to prove this.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:35 pm

A law that let's police assume the guilt of a person based on their race, such as racial profiling laws,

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:36 pm

Everyone has his day in court.

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:38 pm

Due process.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:39 pm

What does that have to do with anything?

polster2 US
07/26/15 12:40 pm

The justice system protects the accused from police abuse. A cop cannot unilaterally declare that a suspect is guilty. Lol

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:42 pm

I didn't say they could declare someone guilty, I said racial profiling laws make police assume that anyone wearing hijab could be a terrorist so they have the right to search them.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 1:04 pm

What gets me is, if you don't care we have a throughly racist criminal justice system, I suppose that's fine, it doesn't say great things about you, but whatever. But to pointedly advocate in favor of it, to try and obscure its racist tendencies,

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 1:05 pm

what is the point? What is the point of trying to paint Black Lives Matter as a racist organization, rather than a movement whose sole raison d'être is fighting racism. What do you think you are gaining in all of this?

polster2 US
07/26/15 1:07 pm

Justice.

polster2 US
07/26/15 1:11 pm

A sense of bettering society.

polster2 US
07/27/15 7:18 pm

Commending the officers who apprehend criminals makes me a bad guy? Why?

commonsense America isnt racist
07/26/15 8:02 am

It's Retarded. Black people are so upset with their own people/culture that they are redirecting their anger towards innocent police officers. Not one of the deaths involving a young black man was an officers fault.

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polster2 US
07/26/15 8:17 am

Not even Eric Garner's death?

commonsense America isnt racist
07/26/15 9:29 am

Polster, Eric resisted arrest causing the police to pin him to arrest him. His death was accidental according to the coroner.

RoDe, that's due to a child having a gun. And not listening to police to show his hands. Both , the young people's fault.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 10:14 am

Common sense: Garner had every right to ask the officers what he was being arrested for. He did not violently resist.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 10:14 am

No matter if his death was accidental or not, it was not necessary to have that many officers try to cuff him. Anyway, how could it be an accident when someone is kneeling on his neck?!

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 10:16 am

Tamir Rice had a TOY gun. If you were a small child playing around with a toy gun, would you listen to an officer, or anyone for that matter? You can't look at it through an adults eyes! I guarantee you he would not have been killed if he were white.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 10:43 am

Are you fucking kidding me? Watch the video again before you defend a cop's decision to jump out of the squad car and kill a 12 year old boy. It was irresponsible policing and plain murder.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 10:45 am

What's more frustrating than the blatant profiling is dumb ass people excusing it and blaming it on the victims.

You're like the idiot that nearly crashed into ME and flipped me off when I honked.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
07/26/15 11:31 am

Or how about John Crawford who was murdered while talking on a cell phone while hanging out in a Walmart? Remember that Ohio is an open carry state...

commonsense America isnt racist
07/26/15 12:33 pm

Wow, is like giant liberal echo chamber in here.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
07/26/15 12:35 pm

No answer, naturally.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:35 pm

Not going to answer us? Typical.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 12:38 pm

It was a debate. A million of us answered your appalling and uninformed comments, and you now have to present your rebuttle.

commonsense America isnt racist
07/26/15 1:36 pm

Sorry, you lost credibility in this confo after beach joined in.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 1:53 pm

You lose credibility after you say a 12 year old should expect to get shot for playing with a toy. Regardless of race, that's fucking weird. Regardless of what's going on in this country, cops should not be jumping out of cars shooting kids w/ toys.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 1:55 pm

Defending that as normal makes me wonder what is wrong with you as a dad. Your daughter may never be in this situation, but to be killed for having a toy...? The caller even said it was a toy. If the cops were unsure, then they should approach...

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 1:56 pm

..from a distance with caution, not ride up, jump out and shoot a kid instantly.

The problem, and why the saying is Black Lives Matter, is because blacks are regarded as a threat, even when they're not. And what do you do with a threat? Neutralize.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 1:58 pm

Trayvon, Tamir, that couple in Wisconsin, Garner...all regarded as a threat that needed to be neutralized. White kids aren't shot for playing with toys. White people aren't shot after speeding away from a traffic stop. White people have privilege...

commonsense America isnt racist
07/26/15 1:58 pm

It's funny beach, you're whole argument is based off 1 incident that I'm sure you scoured the net to prove me wrong. My statement stands. Most young black deaths have been the fault of those black people. Lack of respect & a sense of entitlement.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 2:00 pm

...and refuse to recognize it. That's the problem. But how could you recognize it? You're not aware whether or not you're being regarded as a threat because you don't face an uneasy response everywhere you go.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 2:01 pm

I said regardless of race, dude. Regardless, a kid should not be shot for playing with a toy. He only died because he was black. And I didn't scour the net; I watched the video the press released. Only racists try and prove a VIDEO wrong.

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
07/26/15 2:05 pm

I quit SOH for about a month because another idiot tried to excuse the murder of this 12 year old. You can be blind as you want; that's your right. But tell me why a white family can WRESTLE with a cop and not get killed? Privilege. End of story.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 4:31 pm

CommonSense- Beach didn't even bring up Tamir Rice, I did. Your head is just so firmly in the sand that you somehow did not know the details of the incident. Way to be militantly ignorant though, you take it to a whole new level.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 5:22 pm

Haha sure you did CS 😝

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 7:21 am

Here's your mistake: People, at least in their right mind, aren't blaming the white race for violence against blacks, they are blaming police officers for the current violence against blacks and blaming centuries of systematic racism...

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tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 7:21 am

for putting African Americans in this position in the first place. The bottom line is, people should not be getting killed by police. If someone is given the death penalty fine, but that should be after a fair trial.

tsd715 New York City
07/26/15 7:21 am

No one should be killed by police before a fair trial, especially if they are not being violent themselves.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
07/26/15 7:33 am

Yeah I've marched with many other white folks in Black Live's Matter protests. I was even arrested with them. 80 of us in a cell together. The folks of color made a point of thanking us for being with them. Blame all white people we do not.

BroadwayGurl Previously Potterhead4eva
07/26/15 7:37 am

Good points made by all^^^^

kscott516 Masks fail
07/26/15 8:12 am

Except that more whites are killed by police officers than blacks and the Black Lives Matter movement started with the Trayvon Martin case and renewed with the Michael Brown case. Trayvon's case had nothing to do with LEOs and Brown was at fault.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
07/26/15 8:23 am

There are 4.5x as many white people than black people in the country. While the absolute number of white people killed is higher, black people are more likely to be killed by police.

polster2 US
07/26/15 8:28 am

Thatguy, how can we prove that blacks who died at the hands of police died due to police breaking the law/not following departmental procedure? In most major cities, those who threaten the police with weapons get shot, and the police are not

polster2 US
07/26/15 8:28 am

at fault.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
07/26/15 8:39 am

Your statement is based on nothing other than faith. We can't prove anything without video, but when we do have videos and we see how frequently those videos contradict the written accounts of officers then we see that your faith is unjustified.

polster2 US
07/26/15 8:41 am

Your faith is no match for my facts.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
07/26/15 8:45 am

My beliefs aren't faith based and you've presented no facts.

thatguy2 We tried to warn you
07/26/15 9:04 am

I like how cocky you are about posting an article that doesn't nothing to make your case. I've never claimed that there are no justified police shootings.

polster2 US
07/26/15 9:06 am

You leveled the claim that unjustified police shootings are widespread. Well, now the burden or proof is squarely on your shoulders. Give me evidence that what you're saying is the truth.