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RJ1969 July 25th, 2015 4:06am

What have you heard American Christians talk about more this last week, the existence of an adult website with 30+ million members that supports infidelity or homosexual marriage equality?

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RICK1626 Arkansas
07/26/15 9:35 am

Well, this week i have only spoken out about being saddened by the fact that there are millions seeking to betray their marriage via that site. I believe both(homosexuality), and any extramarital sex to be wrong biblically.

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musiman28 Cotton country
07/26/15 8:03 am

Well, in real life I haven't heard either, but on here, probably Ashley Madison, but not by a big percentage.

rons on top of the world MA
07/25/15 8:33 am

Neither. Don't know any Christians that talked any of it.

theW0lf Leader of the Pack
07/25/15 7:58 am

I know how hackers operate, so as soon as that database gets dumped I'm searching for everyone I know >:)

Then I'LL be holding information for ransom! Muahaha! ...maybe

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htcbump Florida
07/25/15 7:11 am

I have heard both but not from Christians per se. What a bias in how this is worded.

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singkitty In the cloud
07/26/15 6:26 am

Biased for sure, however on SOH I have had more conversations with people stating "I'm a Christian and homosexuality is wrong" type phrases than I ever have encountered in the real world....

chickencookie A case of malocchio
07/25/15 6:50 am

Actually I have only hearing about Trump.

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rons on top of the world MA
07/25/15 6:13 am

Actually I have little interest in either one.

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melmeltx funky town, texas
07/25/15 4:34 am

and people thought committed gay marriage was going to destroy the sanctity of the institution....? 37m married people enrolled on a sight for adultery trumps that notion.

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melmeltx funky town, texas
07/25/15 4:34 am

but I agree w/ the inference of the poll, there is no outrage from Christians equal to that of marriage equality.

deist
07/24/15 11:31 pm

30m+ members, think any of em are christians?

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Arkansas123 Neoconservative
07/24/15 11:25 pm

Neither really. They're both symptoms of the same disease: sexual revolution, formerly known as libertinism.

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MrWolfe Nashville
07/25/15 12:55 am

Liberation from millennia of sexual repression =/= a disease. Sex is a basic biological function, nothing 'sacred' about it

AnnabethWillis mississippian 4 trump
07/24/15 11:09 pm

one is homosexuality and is strictly condomed in the bible (Corinthians and Leviticus) and idk what ashley madison is

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Arkansas123 Neoconservative
07/24/15 11:25 pm

It's a website that arranges adulterous hookups.

GenghisKant Immanuel Khan
07/25/15 4:23 am

There are far more passages condemning adultery and loose fornication, and they aren't debatable like those used against homosexuals.

Arkansas123 Neoconservative
07/25/15 2:27 pm

Would homosexual relations not be a form of fornication?

GenghisKant Immanuel Khan
07/25/15 6:59 pm

Difference between committed relapsing and promiscuity.

GenghisKant Immanuel Khan
07/25/15 6:59 pm

Wow auto bomb.... committed relationship

singkitty In the cloud
07/26/15 6:34 am

The bible also states that a husband can beat his wife, a woman should be silent, and slaves should be submissive....

smacc DunningKruger
07/24/15 9:53 pm

Just became aware of Ashley Madison today. What's with the name? Sorry no Christian involvement.

SticksandStones Proud Prude
07/24/15 9:45 pm

I've heard more in general about Ashley Madison, but I can't point out how many Christians were involved in the conversation...

gow488 Wisconsin
07/24/15 9:40 pm

Haven't heard them discuss either.

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BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/24/15 9:37 pm

I haven't discussed nor heard discussed either topic except for on SOH. I for one believe both are sinful.

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RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 9:44 pm

Which one is a choice and the other the way they were born?

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/24/15 10:39 pm

Both actions are a choice.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 10:50 pm

Yeah....no.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 10:51 pm

Do you choose to be a heterosexual? Do you look at all people with the same sexual attraction?

RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 10:53 pm

Do you tell yourself, no no no, I can't go to town on that girl over there because that's not the right thing to do, even though I really, really want to?

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/24/15 11:02 pm

RJ, you don't know me & I have a friend in crisis right now, so I don't have the time or energy to argue with you.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 11:05 pm

This isn't an argument.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 11:08 pm

The notion that a percentage of the population, everywhere on earth, that would choose to be marginalized, ostracized, and to be deemed evil, sinners, and unholy, by choice, is nonsense.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/24/15 11:13 pm

Really quickly & if you don't stop, I'm putting you on ignore!

All sex outside of a one man-one woman marriage is sin per the NT. You don't have to like it nor agree with it, because God gave you free will.

melmeltx funky town, texas
07/25/15 4:28 am

"if you don't stop I'll put you on ignore"... Bama, seems to an observer that RJ was just commenting on your thread/comment. You put it out there to be discussed.... 😏

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/25/15 10:57 pm

God is not real... Homosexuality is found in every species... Homophobia is found in one...

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/25/15 11:05 pm

Mel, the reason that I threatened to put RJ on ignore last night was because I was busy with a friend who was in the middle of a crisis. RJ & SM know me well enough to know where I stand and they've heard it all before they just wanted to pick a

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/25/15 11:07 pm

fight which I didn't have the time nor energy to deal with last night. I'm actually about to turn in right now, so I won't be arguing this evening either.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/25/15 11:07 pm

Not afraid of homosexuality I'm not homophobic.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
07/25/15 11:09 pm

As I told RJ all sex outside of marriage is sin per the New Testament. You don't have to like it; you don't have to agree with it; you don't even have to believe in God. That's my point of view you can accept it or not.

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/25/15 11:12 pm

Ahh that book where they changed it to fit the times... Sounds about right. Stupidity should be sinful

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 6:27 am

"Homosexuality is found in every species"

LOL! Look at all the gay animals out there!

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 10:59 am

"Lots of animals engage in homosexual behaviour, but whether they are truly homosexual is another matter entirely"

You should read the title of the article, RJ.

Animals demonstrate many characteristics to show dominance. That is one of them. There

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 11:01 am

are also animals that eat their young, eat feces, and decapitate their mates post-coitus. Should we do this things too? I love how you like to say Christians pick and choose from the Bible, erroneously I might add, but can't see the irony when trying

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 11:01 am

to compare animal behavior to human behavior.

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 11:02 am

I know I've had to explain the animal thing to you before, so I don't know why you keep coming back for re-education.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/26/15 11:42 am

Yeah, obviously it's much more complicated. Do they fall in love too, like humans do?

Some animals do use tools, like humans, but does that make them engineers?

Human sexuality is very complicated, as is much of psychology and sociology.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/26/15 11:43 am

So, while animals do exhibit some characteristics of what might be considered homosexual behavior, full classification as such is a stretch. But it also means that these conditions are a part of the natural world, something some of you seem to ignore

RJ1969 SoCal
07/26/15 11:44 am

And don't even get me started on plants. Yes plants.

What? You mean God made some plants either or, and others with the ability to switch? Oh my! How sinful.

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 3:04 pm

And they're still animals. So, like the other examples I provided, we are not to behave just like they do. It's also odd how you'll champion Darwinian evolution but then ignore it's tenets here.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/26/15 4:32 pm

So, gays falling in love is the same as animals eating their young? Got it. Great equivalency there.

kscott516 Show Time
07/26/15 5:39 pm

I'm not saying they're equivalent. Do you not see the hypocrisy of using animal behavior to justify human behavior, just not everything they do?

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/26/15 11:15 pm

Well we did evolve from animals....

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 3:29 am

No, we didn't.

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/27/15 8:29 am

That's right god molded us from clay and blew Adam and he came alive. Shit how could I forget.. All the leading scientist agree this happened, oh wait that's evolution they agree on....

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
07/27/15 8:31 am

BamaGirl I wasn't trying to "pick a fight". If you actually believe that anybody would expose themselves to be ostracized and thought of as "unholy" and "sinners" by choice, you must not be very familiar with how people work.

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
07/27/15 8:32 am

"The notion that a percentage of the population, everywhere on earth, that would choose to be marginalized, ostracized, and to be deemed evil, sinners, and unholy, by choice, is nonsense."

^ RJ was extremely correct in this observation.

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 8:43 am

Lol, you mean how we all evolved from a rock? Yeah, that's totally more believable. The frauds and hoaxes committed to "prove" the theory of evolution are my favorite. So did it happen gradually or suddenly? I can't seem to keep up with which one

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 8:43 am

is the prevailing theory today.

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/27/15 8:49 am

Just a theory like gravity...

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/27/15 8:49 am

And please don't mix up hypothesis with theory.....

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 8:51 am

No, gravity can be observed, tested, and repeated. Don't confuse assumptions made upon ideology as equivalent to operational science. They're not even close. That old meme holds no water.

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 9:13 am

Ummm, seriously? That's what you call observed evolution? So you don't really know what the theory of evolution is, do you? By the way, do you know that both dogs and foxes are canines? This is no surprise that they can behave like dogs. LOL!!

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/27/15 9:24 am

The. Why did tails change, skull structures, coloration... Hmm sounds like evolution....

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 9:38 am

Why are there tall people, short people, red haired people, blond people, green eyes, brown eyes, etc. It's called genetic variation. There are always limits though. It's why you never see a dog's lineage bear anything but more dogs. The fanciful

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 9:40 am

theory of evolution fantasizes that, it give enough time, it can happen. However, more than 70 years of genetic study has proven it cannot.

trollthepoll Pro Choice
07/27/15 4:28 pm

Well that has to do with genetics not evolution... But I can tell you struggle with an understanding science

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 4:31 pm

OMG! I honestly don't have time to discuss this with you if you seriously think evolution occurs outside of genetics. Literally no one else has ever thought that way but you. Congratulations on the most ridiculous statement ever.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/27/15 9:33 pm

"you seriously think evolution occurs outside of genetics"

Epic facepalm

kscott516 Show Time
07/27/15 9:39 pm

I used to think you were somewhat intelligent, but just misguided. I never thought you'd dive into this thread and completely prove me wrong.

So tell me, how does evolution proceed without genetics? (This should be phenomenal!)

RJ1969 SoCal
07/27/15 9:54 pm

Evolution is defined as change over time.

That is all.

Lots of things evolve. Geology and geography evolve. Atoms can evolve. Molecules evolve. Cultures evolve. Language...never mind. You're the genius.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/27/15 9:55 pm

The universe is really just 5,000 years old and nothing has changed. The illiterate goat herders in the Middle East got it right.

Science is useless.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/27/15 9:56 pm

When species go extinct, has the biota evolved even without any changes to genetics?

RJ1969 SoCal
07/27/15 9:58 pm

Now,do you want to discuss how natural selection is involved with biological evolution? Which does require a genetic component (except for prions, of course. You know, prions, right?).

RJ1969 SoCal
07/27/15 10:03 pm

What's amazing to me is that your "questions" have all been answered decades ago, yet you are totally unaware of that fact and insist on remaining ignorant.

In any case, I have to be in the lab early tomorrow. You know...worthless sciency stuff.

kscott516 Show Time
07/28/15 5:03 am

Let's be clear. Troll made the conversation specifically about the theory of evolution, aka "molecules to man evolution", which I, in return, specifically addressed twice. So, by now changing the topic to the general definition of "evolution" as

kscott516 Show Time
07/28/15 5:06 am

"change over time" is a disingenuous ploy in an attempt to get one over on me Sorry, to disappoint you. The entire Theory of Evolution rests solely on genetics via natural selection. Without it, no organism would evolve. However, the theory is left

kscott516 Show Time
07/28/15 5:08 am

wanting as there is no direct evidence to be found that supports it. It is built on a foundation of sand, perpetuated by those with a strong ideological viewpoint that naturalism is the only possible option. Science, however, could never prove

kscott516 Show Time
07/28/15 5:12 am

Creation. It's not within its scope of practice. Therefore scientists continue to falsify and/or misclassify much of the evidence they find. Piltdown, Nebraska, Java, Lucy, Archaeopteryx, etc...all frauds or misidentified. Just like Haeckel's

kscott516 Show Time
07/28/15 5:14 am

"ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny"....fraud. It's disturbing that these known frauds are still taught as fact to our children. Thank God people are now realizing that even scientists have agendas and that the peer review process, in general, lacks a

kscott516 Show Time
07/28/15 5:15 am

truly unbiased procedure for filtering out real science. The shift is coming my friend.

Kay41 the Midwest
07/24/15 9:20 pm

⬆⬆⬆ This Christian hadn't discussed either one. I've got better things to do. (although I do support gay marriage).

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Mattwall1
07/25/15 6:42 am

There's consistency in that (the underlying premise of the question seeming to be based on inconsistency. Of course, the only reason I know
What Ashley Madison is is a former friend of mine set up a false account in my name on it

RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 9:15 pm

You know that Ashley Madison has been in business for years, right?

But, no outrage. No shit them down movement. No end of the world as we know it speeches. One of the 10 commandments really isn't a big deal anymore.

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RJ1969 SoCal
07/24/15 9:16 pm

But we can find some interpretation out of Leviticus, like, don't eat shrimp, and that's the big freakin' deal.

kscott516 Show Time
07/25/15 8:26 am

You don't seem to get how Christianity works. You don't force people to follow your ways, esp via man-made laws. The Ashley Madison reference here only supports your assertion of taxpayer money was used to run it or if Christians were forced to use

kscott516 Show Time
07/25/15 8:29 am

The gay marriage debate is more about private businesses being forced to provide services for the weddings, including pastoral services, against their religious beliefs. There's also the aspect of marriage being defined as the Union of 1 man and 1

kscott516 Show Time
07/25/15 8:31 am

woman. Have your civil union but don't call it a marriage. Get all the tax benefits from the govt you'd like. Frankly, the Gov't should not be involved in the affairs of two people making that choice anyway.

RJ1969 SoCal
07/25/15 9:05 pm

That's a pathetic attempt at turd polishing.

mc88 Cleveland OSU
07/26/15 8:12 am

That's a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal