Do you pray or meditate regularly?
I used to meditate everyday and it was amazing, I need to get back into it. I pray regularly but could do a whole lot better.
Does praying a Rosary count as prayer or meditation? I think it's both
I'd say both
I haven't been for a while 😯
No but I've considered seeing if I can learn at the local Buddhist temple
And a brief glance over the comments shows the young immature atheists are in full force so that's my queue.
Leave while you still can!
I took a mindfulness meditation class a few years ago and it was life changing. I highly recommend looking into it! But I'm not religious, and I see prayer and meditation as completely unrelated.
We'd get a lot more shït done as a whole if people actually took action about the things they were praying about instead of thinking they're putting it into someone else's hands to handle.
Yes, because the 60-70 percent of people not praying are the productive ones...riiiiiiight.
Haven't for years now
No but I should lol
You're a whore
I didn't say people pray as if it were a trade agreement, however, it is a fact that people pray in hopes that their loved ones get better. Whether or not that's how you view it is irrelevant. It happens all the time.
This was not suppose to be here.
How are these related? I don't see much correlation between meditating and prayer. I view them as quite different.
That's why he said "or."
But it's kind of like asking, "Do you wash your car or listen to music?"
they're both spiritual, relax
Meditation doesn't necessarily have anything to do with spirits.
You should. You don't know what you are talking about.
Glad to see tolerance and maturity in the comments (obvious sarcasm)
Who cares? We're not physically harming each other. So why not be honest through words
I'm just saying they should be respectful, you don't see me on SOH insulting other people, and ridiculing them.
You see me doing it though
Therapeutic to you, not to me
Good thing I'm not forcing you to match my behavior then
Also why the fuck do we need to beg at the feet of an omniscient being?
What kind of all loving, perfect God says "Yeah, I'll save her from cancer...... But you have to bow down, worship me, and beg me to do it. And then I still might not do it."
He has a really low self esteem
We're not puppets. We have free will.
l1b3rtar1an I need Jesus and am changed. I've had tons of crap in my life (and tragedy) and get that we're not puppets. If you're right, nothing lost. If I'm right, eternal life with Jesus gained. I hope you would at least give it some thought.
I don't remember the poll saying anything about begging.
My brain won't allow me to believe in a magic man on the off chance not not doing so would mean hell. It's essentially a terrorist threat, and I just don't respond to that stuff
This jesus changed my life is a textbook definition of the placebo effect.
But to comment on you pointing out my options if I'm right or wrong. I can't become unconvinced that there is no God solely off of a "what if I'm wrong" scenario.
If I did I'd be lying to myself, because for me to change my opinions I need EVIDENCE, not just some threatening idea of eternity in hell. What if you are wrong about all the other possibly true Gods?
You believe in the Christian God so strongly yet it's only because you were born into it. Most Christians have not looked at the possibility of other religions because they have been brainwashed from a young age.
You could convince anyone if you taught them something from infancy to adulthood, especially if everyone around them, friends, family, teachers, etc, all also believe it is true.
First off, do you believe that Jesus even existed?
And blueoctopus, no, begging was not in the question. I'm commenting on the basic idea of prayer to save a loved one. "Please! Oh Heavenly Father. Save this woman dying of cancer" That's begging.
To me, there's a reason for everything that happens. Sometimes, I have no clue why until years down the road.
Praying is more of building a relationship with God/Jesus. I guess the closest scenario is like children to parents. The child wants...
Cont'd... something, but the parents don't always say yes because they know better than the children. That's the easiest way I can put it.
The children can scream and shout about the things they want/need etc. but they might now always get it.
I don't know. He may have, or maybe not. We'll never know
@blueoctopus. People use prayer in an attempt to save someone from illness just as much as they do to just talk to God. Its not just a small group of people either,.....
........ everyone who prays usually throws in a line like "Please God, help ____ through his/her illness.", including pastors! So prayer is definitely considered a means to save someone from dying of an illness, whether you consider it or not.
Believing in God isn't like a trade agreement: I'll continue to pray to you (and believe in you) if you save this person. That's not how God is or how he works. Praying is showing you have faith in Him. If the person dies, then we move on with life.
And the life of a person isn't based on a prayer. We're not praying to a genie in the sky who does whatever we say, that's not how it works. Your personal belief on how our religion works is wrong.
I always find it amusing when people tell me what god is thinking. If there is a god, you have no idea what he's like. It certainly won't be anything like he is in the bible, unless the creator of the universe is a petulant child
@blueoctopus I didn't say people pray as if it were a trade agreement, however, it is a FACT that people pray in hope that their loved ones get better. Whether or not that's how you view it is irrelevant. It happens all the time.
"it is a FACT that people pray in hope that their loved ones get better."
Or that their sports team wins the championship
A perfect, omnibenevolent God shouldn't want or need you to worship him like a king. And definitely shouldn't send you to an eternity of hell for not worshiping/believing in him.
It's like going to a charity and donating $100,000 and saying "Now WORSHIP me, for I am your philanthropist. If you don't I'll take my money back"
Holy shit, I just realized god is a lobbyist
It is very difficult to talk with someone who is so unwilling to think about what someone says and continues to bash them regardless of what they say. Maybe if you open your mind you might understand more of what Christianity is.
"Maybe if you open your mind "
My brain hurt from the irony of this statement
I've made my decision and you've made yours. Can we just stop arguing over this topic?
Lol. It's like a comedy routine. I bring up a good analogy showing my point and you say "it's difficult to have this conversation with a close minded person" instead of addressing the statement.
Yeah my brain literally is experiencing pain.
Blue it's interesting how the brain works. Even when it knows it is wrong, it will defend an idea because it has held onto it for too long.
You were raised a Christian. How'd I know that? Even if you pretend you weren't now for convenience
You were. And it was imprinted on your brain. And you now cannot see what I can see...that you are a tool.
You are beyond the point of no return at your age. You will never see the world how we do. You will always be contained in your mind
I think it's the saddest thing I've ever heard of
I don't get how someone has so much hatred for a religion. It literally blows my mind.
Well why don't you explain why He isn't real if you're so confident.
Nah. The burden of proof totally lies on you. If you make a claim that there are fairies it's your job to prove it, not the people who deny your claim.
Although I could point out many reasons why the Christian idea of an omnibenevolent and omnipresent being cant exist in our reality.
I shouldn't say "can't". I mean very unlikely. Like the possibility of fairies being real.
First off: Do you believe Jesus even existed?
First off: how about you address what I'm saying instead of changing the subject.
Maybe there was a Jesus. But maybe there was also a Mohammed. And even if he existed that doesn't prove he was the son of god/god.
I cannot explain my reasoning further unless I know your answer to this question.
Here's my explanation outside of the bible. I can't explain it here (would take too long) but here's something you can google: Blood Moon Tetrads & 9 Harbingers. On the blood moon tetrads, look at the historic events that happen during a tetrad.
There's a lot of information on both of these topics. NASA also has dates confirming these blood moon tetrad dates if you need further proof.
Ok so I looked up this blood moon theory. So basically this sequence of blood moons have happened 7 times since the coming of Christ totaling to 44 blood moons. Each of these blood moons have been attributed to a historical event or Jewish holiday.
Most of them are Jewish holidays like Yom Kippur, Passover, and the feast of the tabernacle. The later two are multi day events. The historical events are completely random, having no connection to each other...
....everything from Pope Leo coming to power to the Spanish Inquisition.
It is fairly obvious that religious historians took the dates and found the most important event that happened in the planet at that time.
This all comes from two lines in the bible that simply say "when the moon turns into blood there will be a horrible event". It's all cherrypicked and it's all fallacious.
But regardless, the final blood moon that apparently will happen on the day of the apocalypse is 9/28/15. So in 66 days I'll make sure to post back in this comment section when nothing happens. Lol
Well I have to say I am quite surprised that you actually did some research. Usually when I tell anyone about this they don't care at all. Could, perhaps, these events have major connections with the Jewish/Christian people?
Well anyways, this is all I can really do. I'm done arguing. I'm glad you were willing to listen though.
Ok no problem. The answer to your question is no. But I guess the deciding factor will be in 66 days. See you then.
Blue instead of playing a victim and pretending you're oppressed, try actually answering questions posed to you without deflecting
I wish you could see how ridiculous you're coming off, but I know you can't
Meditation is nothing like praying. Unless you are praying for 30 minutes or more in total silence. Meditation is clearing your mind to the point that your not even thinking about not thinking about anything. Praying is talking to a man in the sky.
In other words, praying is a waste of time and meditation actually helps the body and mind.
I don't even talk to myself.
I pray without ceasing.
You never cease to pray? How do you sleep? How do you eat? Mother of jesus ball sucking christ, you're a wizard harry
I'm going to take a wild stab and guess you are an atheist.
Or a wizard
Wow I did a double take at these results. I thought we were more religious than this. Good for us.
This isn't exactly a scientifically conducted poll and the latter part is just silly
Well no of course none of the polls on here will mean much of anything scientifically. It's just interesting to do casual polling. As for the last part, take it as you may. Just my opinion.
Meditate and pray... But my prayers are more sending out my desires to others, not asking someone to do stuff for me.
I pray every night
Turtles all the way down
All the time.
Every time I pull out into traffic
I hope you are referring to prayer. If you listen to a soothing meditation tape or go into trance it's bad news ;)
The soothing tape keeps the road rage down, but yeah I meant prayer.
I spend quite a long time on the toilet just thinking...silently to myself but with gusto.
I'm sad to see so little pray to God anymore. I wake up every morning and pray and talk to God all day long. He is such a big part of my life and get sad when people call me names because of my beliefs.
I made a post how appalled I was at the White House putting the rainbow colors on it and I got the nastiest foul mouth comments because of my beliefs. Democrats are so intolerant of others.
BREAKING NEWS: All democrats are not intolerant of others. When your comments are that ignorant, people are less likely to respect your beliefs.
Sorry for sounding a little rude, but I'm not a big fan of when people believe all democrats or all republicans act the same way. While some democrats are intolerant of others, many aren't. The same goes for republicans.
You shouldn't care whether or not other people pray. They have the right to do whatever the fuck they want. You shouldn't care what the white house looks like either. None of this stuff has any affect on you whatsoever. Live and let live.
NEWS FLASH: Not everyone is religious.
they hate christians
Annabelle- I share many democratic beliefs and I am also a Christian. So, once again, you're bleeding ignorance.
Oops, Annabeth was the one who said that. Very similar names with very similar beliefs!
'I made a post of how appalled I was at the White House showing their support for interracial marriage and I got the nastiest foul mouth comments for my beliefs. Democrats can be so intolerant of others.'
That's what you sound like. Same thing.
I'm a socialist, the reason people like me want your god to die is because it is a crutch. You have no proof of a diety, yet you cling to it and call it the one true god among thousands of others. Your religion is foolhardy and detrimental to society
Socialism and religion....both horrible ideas
People that don't believe in God: fine but don't mock folks that do. The fundamentals of most religions is peace and love. Yea yea you will respond with wars were caused by religion. Ugh. SO was oil, land, salt, lovers,diamonds etc.
I don't believe that most wars were caused by religion. But I have the right to mock whoever I want, whenever I want. Your beliefs, whatever they may be, are not exempt from criticism.
Vayl, don't be a dick.
How am I being a dick? Nothing is exempt from mockery.
I find it strange that you call me a dick for pointing out that anyone has a right to mock or criticize anything, while I didn't even mock anything myself. You're not even making sense.
If you don't want to be mocked, dont believe in magic
The arrogance of believing in talking snakes and thinking no one is going to laugh at you is just...special
2 hands at work accomplish more than a million hands clasped in prayer.
Yawn. Take it back to the Dawkins forums.
But you agree right?
Do you not agree Alex? It's nothing but the truth. Asking the clouds to help you won't solve anything.
Unless you ask the clouds for rain
Introspection can be helpful. For me, prayer has no meaning. I can honestly say that I have never prayed, not even once.
Meditation doesn't have to be spiritual.
Exactly. I like to do progressive relaxation meditation, or guided meditation but don't see it as spiritual.
A lot more Republicans have been praying since Trump took the lead in the polls!
O Lordy, Lordy, Lordy!!!!!!
I'm not a Republican or Democrat but I am glad to see Trump doing so well. It is refreshing to finally see someone with guts get into the fight. I am tired of the limp wristed Dems and the spineless Repub's destroying this nation. Go Trump!
Nope. Nothing fails like prayer fails.
My 20 minute showers and the 30 minutes it takes me to fall asleep are the closest I get to meditation. But honestly, it's pretty close. I get a lot of thinking done during that time.
Nope, not religious. But I understand that those who do pray regularly tend to be healthier, both physically and mentally, and happier. So who am I to denigrate what seems to work?
I meditate for religious purposes frequently. When I get really busy it can be hard to find the time, which is always unfortunate and somewhat frustrating.
I'm a regular meditator.
I "meditate" occasionally but not in a spiritual sense. Just to clear my mind. Really a good thing actually, people should try it more.
but I need to do both.
I pray at least every night. I've been praying more in the day because I have had some new events come up.
I pray everyday; it helps me relax and focus on what matters.
I'm not spiritual or religious
These are not similar enough to be polled together. It is like asking if one eats carrots or pets puppies regularly.
But can you really do those independently of each other?
Yes, that's the only way they can be done. Praying, implies looking outward to an external deity, for me that is God. Meditating involves looking inwardly to the self.
And puppies are better than carrots.
Meditation is simply a state of relaxation, with the purpose of releasing tension and easing stress in a person's life. It has nothing to do with "looking inwardly to the self."
The state of relaxation already has a word - relaxed.
"During meditation the attention flows inward instead of engaging in the outside world... You connect with a deeper level of yourself, the stillness within..." - American meditation society.
There are many different forms of meditation. The simplest, most well known one, is nothing more than a state of relaxation.
I disagree. Prayer can definitely be a form of meditation. I'm Catholic and pray the Rosary often. The point of the Rosary is to meditate on Christ's Passion and pray for petition from Mother Mary. So I believe prayer and meditation go hand in hand
I meditate in my head... Not the physical bonzai thing anyway.
Praying is a waste but meditation would help calm me.
Prayer really isn't a waste. It allows an individual to learn about his needs, wants, fears, desires, and struggles. Whether he gains outside help or inside change may be debatable, but something does happen. It's proven. And what's the difference?
Yes to the individual that is praying giving them a positive state of mind or maybe even letting someone know that you are praying for them to give a positive vibe but it is not proven that anything supernatural effects the course of life in any way.
We already know what our needs, desires, fears, and struggles are. We don't need to pray to find that out. I mean, you have to be able to know what those things are in the first place in order to pray about them. Prayer doesn't help you learn that.
@Think, certainly you can't prove anything that would be pointless. But the internal change people experience is enough proof for some people of supernatural influence. As well as outside change.
@vayl, I disagree. At times in our lives, we are so preoccupied with random stuff that we lose sight of what is important to us. Taking time to reflect on that, reveals things that we may not have considered or forgotten.
Then literally all you have to do is exactly what you said -- take time to reflect on that. You don't need to pray to do that. Now you're saying that prayer is just a complicated way of doing something we can already do without it.
....You do know that prayer is just a form of meditation, right? The only difference is that there is someone else/ the thought of someone else answering the other half of the conversation. Prayer is encouraged meditation because someone is listening
Of course, only yourself and your thoughts are listening, unless you're in like a church saying a group prayer.
Prayer is nothing like meditation. At least, not a typical Christian prayer, in which the person gets on their knees and clasps their hands together, then takes a minute to ask something. Meditation involves releasing tension and entering a state...
...of deep relaxation for extended lengths of time. It is very different from prayer.
@Think, you really can't claim that no one is listening. You may not believe in a higher power for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist. And those who pray to one definitely believe in the existence of one. Don't be so ignorant.
@Vayl, there really isn't a "typical Christian prayer" There are many types of prayer, and while some of them are quick, pre made, and not very meditative, they serve the same reflective, calming purpose. And most prayer is deep and meditative.
Not even irregularly. Sometimes I tell people I'm meditating or ruminating, but really I'm zoned out, taking a nap without actually falling asleep.