Do you think it can be reasonable to be socially / morally conservative without being religious?
I'm somewhat socially conservative (not on gay marriage though) and I'm not religious at all.
To clarify...I guess my morals are more conservative. I would never force them on others, however, like most Republicans seem to do.
"What reasons are there if you're not religious" oh gee...im an athiest...I cannot be morally conservative...I must be an asshole...because I don't believe in God....yes
Not reasonable to me, but I'm sure some people do it.
Yes. You do not have to be religious to see the damage social liberalism has done unless you never see the ghettos social liberalism created.
As a concept, I think it's possible, but I've never met or heard of any conservative who used anything other than a religious rationale his/her social value. I'd love to hear a real-life example.
I think people saying "no" are just buying into the leftist propaganda that religion is the only reason for conservative values.
On the social side, what non religious reasons are there? I can see it for the fiscal side, but am having trouble finding any non religious rationale reasons for social conservatism. Use lgbt rights as an example so we aren't talking abstracts please
You already had this argument below and I'm not interested in getting into a whole thing about it because anything I say will be dismissed.
Suffice it to say that these people do exist, and have even commented here, so take it up with them.
1. I didn't argue with anyone, we were discussing.
2. Fine, I'm just curious to hear reasons. So far I've only heard people say they are but have not heard concrete examples of how this works. So I ask questions. But you're out, and that's ok too.
If you're just interested in learning more about their position, then this should help. www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1082190/posts
Of course, being conservative has nothing to do with religion.
I am. Socially/fiscally conservative, yet atheist my whole life.
What nonreligious reason is there to oppose LGBT rights? Use marriage as an example
Don't mind me, just commenting here so I'm notified when commonsense replies. Mucho curiouso.
I don't think there is a reason to deny them rights. The only privilege that I would deny them is marriage. Specifically for society.
So you're saying you think that marriage is a privilege, not a right? Why?
I don't see it as a right. Similar to driving
Even if it is a privilege (which I disagree) what non religious reason is there to deny it?
It's completely possible.
I'm an atheist conservative... I don't understand at all why people don't get it, but I get questioned all the time.
Yes, one of my great friends is a conservative athiest.
Why would an atheist be opposed to say, same sex marriage?
He could argue that marriage is an institution to foster and protect families with the prospect of having and rearing children. Traditionally, you marry to found a family.
But gay couples can fulfill that role too. If you use reason to think thru the concept it becomes fairly obvious. Same as infertile couples can marry and former a family.
Not sure what he would say specifically about marriage, but I know he would argue that same sex relationships are essentially die out paths in the evolutionary chain.
But even that is not a reason to oppose gay rights as we as a species are in no danger of going extinct. Overpopulation is a more pressing problem for us.
This may not sit well with either conservatives or liberals but I think yes. You can still argue that conservative traditions work without calling on a higher power.
I totally agree. The Catholic Church has taught for years that our morals and values are the result of rational thought and human reason, and that human beings can come to these conclusions logically without making a religious appeal.