When does pregnancy begin?
Given that we say that a miscarriage occurs if implantation does not occur, then it seems like conception is the answer. But a pregnancy starting at implantation is an intriguing concept. Maybe there is something to that.
By what lady bodies do, conception.
I think the term you were looking for is "girl parts."
No. It's the whole body. I don't remember the specifics, but something is released that helps prevent the body from destroying the embryo. It can be detected in blood test on, I think, day two.
Life begins at conception. Pregnancy begins at implantation.
If it begins with conception, then 70+% of the human population was never born.
I'm not sure why we'd change the definition just to be able to claim we have a lower prenatal mortality rate.
We could use the same logic to claim sea turtles don't become sea turtles until they reach the ocean. That way we wouldn't have to admit that +70% of sea turtles don't make it from their best to the ocean.
it's already begun the process, before they implant it!
Conception. At that moment, there is a human life growing within the woman's uterus, so she's pregnant.
Does it have to be in a woman? Can there be a pregnancy outside of the woman?
Yes. Only human women can be pregnant with human babies. Petri dishes don't get pregnant.
Doesn't IVF make the case that it's implantation?
No. I've just makes the case that we can circumvent the natural processes.
If eggs are fertilized in a dish, there isn't a pregnancy because attachment is a required part of pregnancy.
Most fertilizations do not implant and the zygote is discharged. Are all of those pregnancies then?
Yes, pregnancies that end up in miscarriage.
If the egg is fertilized, and then lost, it is considered a miscarriage. It's estimated that up to 50% of pregnancies end before implantation.
So, fertilization = pregnancy? They are synonymous? There isn't anything that distinguishes the two words?
Pregnancy begins with fertilization, I don't know why you'd say they're synonymous as fertilization is just one step in the process that is pregnancy.
Conception and fertilization, for all intents and purposes, are synonymous.
I agree with conception and fertilization being synonymous.
There are several definitions/descriptions in the medical dictionaries about pregnancy. I'm trying to figure out which one is most accurate.
I think pregnancy means the state of carrying a developing embryo. If it hasn't implanted, the embryo is not going to continue to develop.
Conception was commonly accepted as the beginning of pregnancy until abortion enthusiasts started trying to delay the official starting as far as possible so as to avoid having to label certain drugs or procedures as abortifacient.
This is evidenced by the fact that we take certain terms for granted-
For example, is an ectopic pregnancy a pregnancy?
Historically, the answer has been yes, and the loss of the pregnancy considered a miscarriage.
But by your standard, it is not.
If you define pregnancy as implantation in the uterus, then an ectopic pregnancy is not a pregnancy.
But since the discovery of this condition, it has been accepted as a pregnancy.
Actually, I am wrong. Conception and fertilization are not synonymous. Conception is defined as the initial steps in the development of a child. But an egg can be fertilized with a sperm (or vice versa) that will develop to a point,
then cease with no potential child.
This is an interesting thought exercise.
As for ectopic pregnancy, my position that it has to implant is not limited to the uterus. The ectopic pregnancy is a type of pregnancy. We have found that females that have had their
uterus removed could still become pregnant when the fertilized egg attached to a blood vessel.
Splitting hairs. Fertilization and conception happen at the same time, and are both defined by the sperm joining the egg. At that point, as evidenced by the documentary "look who's talking," the DNA combine and the now fertilized egg begins to glow.
Well I'm not really splitting hairs, because you are referring to the best case scenario and not all possible outcomes. There is a sizable percentage of instances where, following fertilization (and even implantation) there is zero
Possibility of the embryo developing to term ultimately to a child. I wouldn't call that conception. If there is zero potential then that's fertilization without conception.
Also, for clarification, it's the blastocyst, not the embryo, that implants. The embryo is a later development.
By that same logic, any pregnancy that spontaneously terminates is not a pregnancy because the baby didn't come to full term.
No, conception occurs at fertilization. Non-viability of the fertilized egg does not mean conception did not occur.
Couples that struggle to conceive are not considers pregnant because they have successfully fertilized eggs. They conceive when pregnant and successfully developing to term.
Anyway, a fun thought question. It's late. Have a good one.
Ok, that's a different tangent.
What you're getting at is that we don't have the ability to determine the moment of conception, so we
Measure the changes that occur after implantation, and therefore people mistake that as the beginning of pregnancy.
Pregnancy as a process begins at conception for most women. However modern science is making it possible for some women to skip the first step and "begin" FOR THEM further down the line.
Not too complex of an issue.
Technically the weeks start at your last menstrual period. That's why if you think about it, you're "pregnant" for 10 months (40 weeks=10 months), but people say 9 because it's generally 2 weeks after your last period that you ovulate, which is when
You conceive...and you are full term before the 40-week mark (37 weeks) so you are actually only truly pregnant for 9 months.
Oh but to answer the question...conception. (Assuming this is a natural pregnancy we are talking about not "medically-caused" pregnancies)
Good stuff, Sunny!
Thank you :) needless to say I've spent many hours researching all things pregnancy/conceiving/babies/etc lol even before we got pregnant
That's why that thing in your other poll Q was a compliment to you. You're obviously a lover of the children, and you put parenthood in a good light! ❤️👶❤️
Pregnancy =\= conception. It never has. How would you ever determine a woman is pregnant without implantation? Every pregnancy test ever requires implantation to test for pregnancy.
The majority of OBGYN's agree that pregnancy begins at conception.
Just because we can test for something at a particular point doesn't mean that's when it begins. That just means that's the point when it's currently detectable.
Nope. Maybe "life" begins at conception, but pregnancy is literally the implantation of the fertilized egg in the uterine lining. Pregnancy is a testable medical condition. A floating embryo is not pregnancy, it is simply fertilization/conception.
Yeah, I'm probably going to take the of the majority of OBGYNs over some guy on the Internet.
This guy is an MD. I promise you no med school is teaching "pregnancy" is the same as conception.
My wife is also an MD, as are the three OBGYNs who birthed our kids, and they all agree that pregnancy begins at conception.
Furthermore, if you look at the study I cited below, the majority of OBGYNS agree it begins with conception.
And RJ1969 already tried the "pregnancy isn't synonymous with conception" line down below. No one is making that claim. Conception is one step in the process that is pregnancy.
Also, if you are an md (and this is the Internet, so I'm an astronaut) I'm sure you used Stedman's at med school, right?
Because stedman's defines pregnancy as beginning at conception, not implantation.
Which is odd, because you claimed that no med school would teach that.
But every med school uses stedman's.
We did, not that a medical dictionary is a large teaching component in med school. But no, pregnancy is the implantation of the embryo and fusion between embryo and mother. There is no "pregnancy" at conception until implantation.
Well, once again, thanks for your opinion. But I'm going to take the word of doctors I know in real life and the majority of OBGYNs over some guy on the Internet.
Well congrats for believing whatever you want to believe. Still not right.
I can't see how that differentiates us at all.
Name one OB that has told their patient she's pregnant before implantation has occurred.
Do you want the names of the three OBs who delivered my kids, George? Is that what you're asking for?
Your problem is that you're confusing what we can detect with what we know is happening without us being able to detect it.
We know that conception occurs, obviously, even though we don't have a simple test to determine the exact moment.
We have simple tests to detect when implantation has occurred.
But you're confusing what we can test for with when pregnancy begins.
That brings us back to my original response to your comment, which means we are now officially going around in circles.
The fact is, as evidenced by the article I posted and the attached study, this issue is up for debate. While the majority of OBGYNs agree with me, there are those who agree with you.
So let's leave it at that.
Implanting your penis usually does not result in pregnancy so I'll say conception.
Your conclusion is correct,but I don't think you got there the right way.
It felt right.
💯You won all the Internets
Will ferrel just abdicated his throne in honor of think
1. Conception is a process that begins with fertilization and ends with implantation.
2. Fertilizations can occur outside the female reproductive system, and those are not considered pregnancies.
You're talking about IVF. Those are a separate situation because the lab procedure replaces the natural process.
It would be as if I asked where digestion occurs and you declare it doesn't occur in the stomach because we can do that in a lab.
And conception is not a process that begins with fertilization and ends with implantation.
Conception is the moment when the sperm fertilizes the egg and a new life is formed. Ar that point the fertilized egg goes on to implantation.
I believe life begins when it's implanted in the uterus.
Scientifically speaking, the fertilized egg has already started differentiated cellular division and has become the blastocyst before it ever implants.
So it's definitely a distinct life with its own unique DNA before implantation.
So the question can't be "does life begin at implantation," because the scientific community agrees 100% that the blastocyst is a separate life from the mother, and it is most definitely alive.
There is a right answer.
Pregnancy - The period from conception to birth. After the egg is fertilized by a sperm and then implanted in the lining of the uterus, it develops into the placenta and embryo, and later into a fetus.
Don't worry! I got you covered. medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Pregnancy
Thank God you citedthatsource. I'd hate for people to not have a third party be able to verify your common sense comment.
Oops. I'm sorry I mentioned God. I hope I didn't offend anyone.
Oops, I did it again.
In God we trust!
Stop being so insensitive!
Alright...I apologize. I should be aware of people's differences.
You know, what ever happened to citethesource? Shouldn't he be here yelling about bodily autonomy?
He has me on ignore, which means he can't see my polls- therefore I am exempt from his nonsense.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
I too am on that list, it seems. I think even a small refutation of one of his liberal rants is all that it takes.
Yeah, he's one of the more intolerant people on the app.
He can't stand being disagreed with. Once I finally got him to admit he was wrong, but he actually went to a different poll in a thread with just me and told me he agreed with me. Then, he denied doing so in the actual poll.
"I gave up a long time ago on political when he bullied a gay kid."
Who did you bully that time?
You know, the catholic Buddhist.
For the record, most OBGYNs agree pregnancy starts at conception. Not too long ago, however, ACOG (american college of gynecology) controversially declared that it begins at implantation.
And this difference matters because it determines whether some drugs, like the PlanB drug must legally be called abortifacients.
Teva (the manufacturer) pushed for this new definition because it would allow the FDA to not label it an abortifacient.