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Rotavele November 8th, 2014 7:12pm

Wait wait wait, I just remembered something. Wasn't "future GOP nominee" Ted Cruz born in Canada? ... Should he be able to run for president?

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Penn555 Maine
11/10/14 2:05 pm

Not under current law, but I think the law should be changed anyway.

dventola98 CMU
11/10/14 10:47 am

he should because if Obama could run and not verify where he was born so should him. especially if he proves where he was born

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suppressedID That is my secret Cap
11/10/14 10:08 pm

You mean the Hawaii state birth certificate wasn't enough?

YOU'D have a problem proving citizenship, then.

dventola98 CMU
11/10/14 10:09 pm

I never actually saw it did you?

firefly5 the verse
11/08/14 8:37 pm

he shouldn't. but it has nothing to do with where he was born.

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/08/14 6:41 pm

He is eligible to be the President.

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trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
11/08/14 6:19 pm

And yet conservatives gave obama shit for being born in Kenya when he was actually born in America

trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
11/08/14 6:20 pm

Regardless liberals shouldn't stoop to their level

commonsense America isnt racist
11/08/14 6:23 pm

It was actually started by Hilary Clinton, to distract people from Obama's presidential campaign. One of the reasons I will never vote for a Clinton. They play dirty.

trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
11/08/14 6:26 pm

Regardless, conservatives ran it into the geound

Diogenes FreeMeBe
11/08/14 3:24 pm

Recall the Obama birther movement was initiated by the Hillary Clinton corner during primaries.

Cruz is electable as POTUS.

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Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 4:51 pm

Source on that? Hillary isn't the type to think a name sounds non-european or non-African and say "he's foreign!"

Diogenes FreeMeBe
11/08/14 6:01 pm

I could source several articles and you could probably do the converse. Check it out. I think Penn's missive may have been better left unwritten.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
11/08/14 1:47 pm

From what I've read his candidacy is challengeable. A case couldn't be brought until he would be elected president, the issue being the legal interpretation of "natural born". I bet if his candidacy were to pick up momentum the media and his

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RoDe Latinus wordsus
11/08/14 1:48 pm

opponents would try to plant the seeds of uncertainty over whether he'd be able to serve. My assumption is the case would fail, but the possibility of one in itself could be threatening,

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 1:37 pm

He's good to go, according to legal scholars. It would be slightly amusing to poke sticks at the folks who like him for the position but despise Obama & made such a fuss about his birth, but since that was all total idiocy, let's just not go there.

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Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 1:38 pm

I know, after swervin proved me wrong I wanted to just start up with that for them to see the things we all went through :P

USA1st
11/08/14 1:55 pm

As a Republican who is passionately opposed to Obama on nearly every issue, I can honestly say that I'm pretty sure the majority of GOPers (like myself) didn't have a problem about Obama's birth (state/country).

USA1st
11/08/14 1:55 pm

The few who did, just had the loudest voices.

USA1st
11/08/14 1:56 pm

I've seen very convincing data for both sides of the argument, but came to the conclusion that it was a stupid claim to try to get McCain elected.

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 2:12 pm

I agree they were in a minority, but yes indeedy they did have some loud voices, & some of them were shouting from some fairly high places. Like that official (I forget the position) who wanted to keep him off the ballot in one state.

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 2:13 pm

Plus, they haven't quit, even now, some of them.

There was even a poll here just a few days about one word on Obama's birth certificate that was supposedly proof that it was a total fake. (Except... it wasn't.)

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
11/08/14 2:26 pm

I still have doubts on where he is from and where he went to school. It doesn't help his case that all he wants to do is destroy the country

Abolitionist Voice of the people
11/08/14 2:32 pm

Hey, bluerum, do you still think that documentary "2016" is going to come true?

hrankta
11/08/14 1:29 pm

According to the Nationality Act of 1940, he is eligible.

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Maj Worth Economist
11/08/14 1:25 pm

You mean Rafael Cruz? ;)

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Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 1:38 pm

That is his communist name when he was in Indonesia with Rafael Castro and Joseph Stalin.

USA1st
11/08/14 1:48 pm

Rafael the Canadian-American President. hm...

Djsoke
11/08/14 1:21 pm

Yes, he should be able to, he never had to go through the naturalization process. :)

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:43 pm

His mother is "American born", but I don't believe that either, I want yo see her birth certificate.

His dad is also from Cuba so if that doesn't say radical Muslim Marxist then I don't know wat does!

Optimus1
11/08/14 12:57 pm

So Ted Cruz is a radical Muslim Marxist?

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 1:15 pm

Yes I'm pretty sure of it.

I saw him fist bumping bill airs.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
11/08/14 12:22 pm

Funny stuff. We already let one non American who was only here to try and destroy the country into office.

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skinner Wisconsin
11/08/14 12:22 pm

Yes, technically he can run for president. Legal scholars seem nearly unanimous in that perspective. It's an entirely different matter whether he should run for president. Also not that it matters, but he has released his birth certificate.

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Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:29 pm

Lol.

Swervin pretty air tighted it below. This opened up a new can of worms though. Can anyone here imagine if a democrat from Cuba was running? "MARXIST!" Even more than they do now.

skinner Wisconsin
11/08/14 12:42 pm

Unlikely. Cuban-Americans have traditionally leaned conservative

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:44 pm

Skinner, Miami is part of the United States now.

skinner Wisconsin
11/08/14 12:54 pm

There's no question that Democrats have been making advances among that demographic, but they still lean Republican.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 1:33 pm

"In 2012, Barack Obama received 49 percent of the Cuban American vote in Florida, compared to 47 percent for Mitt Romney according to Edison Research exits polls."

skinner Wisconsin
11/08/14 2:20 pm

There is a shift, but despite that shift and it's gravity in Florida, by the time all the votes were tallied last election Romney had a majority of the Cuban-American votes.

Arananthi Literal Ninja
11/08/14 12:15 pm

John McCain was born in Panama. Didn't stop him from running. Only darkies need to prove their origin story.

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Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:17 pm

Ted Cruz is part Cuban. Here in Alabama we consider anything darker than #00000 foreign and unamerican.

swervin Maryland
11/08/14 12:18 pm

In a military base, you fool. If my son wants to run for President, he should sure as hell be allowed to, even with him being born in Japan.

Arananthi Literal Ninja
11/08/14 12:24 pm

I was unaware of that detail. Thanks, swervin.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:27 pm

Me either. It apparently says that anyone born to an American parent who has citizenship, has citizenship and was a natural born citizen eligible to run for president.

There's so many notable people in foreign countries born to American people's.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:27 pm

But thank you for that detail swervin. I only heard about him being from Canada, no one ever said that.

Maj Worth Economist
11/08/14 12:30 pm

@Rotavele - It's #FFFFFF. #000000 is pure black.

Arananthi Literal Ninja
11/08/14 12:32 pm

swervin was referring to McCain, not Cruz. Cruz can run because he was born to an American woman, which makes him an American citizen.

swervin Maryland
11/08/14 12:34 pm

Aran is right, I was talking about McCain.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:41 pm

Maj - I was thinking that after I hit post and was just hoping no one would know what I was talking about but thank you.

Swervin/Ara thank you guys for the details and clearing up my ignorance on the matter.

Maj Worth Economist
11/08/14 12:46 pm

@Rotavele - Sorry. I work with Photoshop all the time, so I'm used to those. ;) On the upside, though, at least I recognized what you were trying to say instead of mistaking it for an idiot's hashtag.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 1:16 pm

I love PS but have had trouble with inspiration lately.

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 1:24 pm

The possibly troublesome phrase in the Constitution is "natural born citizen," because what that actually means wasn't defined. Most legal scholars seem to agree that if you were eligible for citizenship at birth, you're good to go. And having one

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 1:25 pm

parent who was an American citizen at that time seems to be sufficient.

Which makes all the nonsense about Obama's birth total idiocy, but hey.

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 1:33 pm

Few people ever mention the similar case of George Romney, Mitt's father, who campaigned for the Presidency in a primary. He was born in Mexico to a Mormon family (father & 3 wives) that had fled to Mexico. There was some quibbling over that at the

susanr Colorado
11/08/14 1:34 pm

time, but nothing like the ugly ruckus over Obama's birth. You'd think the matter would have been settled then.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 1:39 pm

Yes but Obama looks different. :P

USA1st
11/08/14 1:51 pm

Ted Cruz is from my "home" city of beautiful Calgary, Alberta.

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:14 pm

I for one would like to see this birth certificate because I feel he may be hiding the fact that he may be Muslim or a terrorist.

He already shut down our government once. Where is Rush Limbaugh on this one?

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rons screw politicians
11/08/14 12:28 pm

Maybe he's Obama's half brother, he has a million of them!

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:45 pm

Ted Hussein Jose Barack Cruz Obama de Hawaii III

Rotavele Alabama
11/08/14 12:45 pm

That's his real name and he was raised in Ukraine as a terrorist Muslim!