Wait wait wait, I just remembered something. Wasn't "future GOP nominee" Ted Cruz born in Canada? ... Should he be able to run for president?
Not under current law, but I think the law should be changed anyway.
he should because if Obama could run and not verify where he was born so should him. especially if he proves where he was born
You mean the Hawaii state birth certificate wasn't enough?
YOU'D have a problem proving citizenship, then.
I never actually saw it did you?
He should be disqualified.
he shouldn't. but it has nothing to do with where he was born.
He is eligible to be the President.
And yet conservatives gave obama shit for being born in Kenya when he was actually born in America
Regardless liberals shouldn't stoop to their level
It was actually started by Hilary Clinton, to distract people from Obama's presidential campaign. One of the reasons I will never vote for a Clinton. They play dirty.
Regardless, conservatives ran it into the geound
Recall the Obama birther movement was initiated by the Hillary Clinton corner during primaries.
Cruz is electable as POTUS.
Source on that? Hillary isn't the type to think a name sounds non-european or non-African and say "he's foreign!"
I could source several articles and you could probably do the converse. Check it out. I think Penn's missive may have been better left unwritten.
From what I've read his candidacy is challengeable. A case couldn't be brought until he would be elected president, the issue being the legal interpretation of "natural born". I bet if his candidacy were to pick up momentum the media and his
opponents would try to plant the seeds of uncertainty over whether he'd be able to serve. My assumption is the case would fail, but the possibility of one in itself could be threatening,
He's good to go, according to legal scholars. It would be slightly amusing to poke sticks at the folks who like him for the position but despise Obama & made such a fuss about his birth, but since that was all total idiocy, let's just not go there.
I know, after swervin proved me wrong I wanted to just start up with that for them to see the things we all went through :P
As a Republican who is passionately opposed to Obama on nearly every issue, I can honestly say that I'm pretty sure the majority of GOPers (like myself) didn't have a problem about Obama's birth (state/country).
The few who did, just had the loudest voices.
I've seen very convincing data for both sides of the argument, but came to the conclusion that it was a stupid claim to try to get McCain elected.
I agree they were in a minority, but yes indeedy they did have some loud voices, & some of them were shouting from some fairly high places. Like that official (I forget the position) who wanted to keep him off the ballot in one state.
Plus, they haven't quit, even now, some of them.
There was even a poll here just a few days about one word on Obama's birth certificate that was supposedly proof that it was a total fake. (Except... it wasn't.)
I still have doubts on where he is from and where he went to school. It doesn't help his case that all he wants to do is destroy the country
Hey, bluerum, do you still think that documentary "2016" is going to come true?
Never heard of it
According to the Nationality Act of 1940, he is eligible.
You mean Rafael Cruz? ;)
That is his communist name when he was in Indonesia with Rafael Castro and Joseph Stalin.
Rafael the Canadian-American President. hm...
Yes, he should be able to, he never had to go through the naturalization process. :)
What's rthe problem
His mother is "American born", but I don't believe that either, I want yo see her birth certificate.
His dad is also from Cuba so if that doesn't say radical Muslim Marxist then I don't know wat does!
So Ted Cruz is a radical Muslim Marxist?
Yes I'm pretty sure of it.
I saw him fist bumping bill airs.
Funny stuff. We already let one non American who was only here to try and destroy the country into office.
Yes, technically he can run for president. Legal scholars seem nearly unanimous in that perspective. It's an entirely different matter whether he should run for president. Also not that it matters, but he has released his birth certificate.
Swervin pretty air tighted it below. This opened up a new can of worms though. Can anyone here imagine if a democrat from Cuba was running? "MARXIST!" Even more than they do now.
Unlikely. Cuban-Americans have traditionally leaned conservative
Skinner, Miami is part of the United States now.
There's no question that Democrats have been making advances among that demographic, but they still lean Republican.
According to who?
"In 2012, Barack Obama received 49 percent of the Cuban American vote in Florida, compared to 47 percent for Mitt Romney according to Edison Research exits polls."
There is a shift, but despite that shift and it's gravity in Florida, by the time all the votes were tallied last election Romney had a majority of the Cuban-American votes.
John McCain was born in Panama. Didn't stop him from running. Only darkies need to prove their origin story.
Ted Cruz is part Cuban. Here in Alabama we consider anything darker than #00000 foreign and unamerican.
In a military base, you fool. If my son wants to run for President, he should sure as hell be allowed to, even with him being born in Japan.
I was unaware of that detail. Thanks, swervin.
Me either. It apparently says that anyone born to an American parent who has citizenship, has citizenship and was a natural born citizen eligible to run for president.
There's so many notable people in foreign countries born to American people's.
But thank you for that detail swervin. I only heard about him being from Canada, no one ever said that.
@Rotavele - It's #FFFFFF. #000000 is pure black.
swervin was referring to McCain, not Cruz. Cruz can run because he was born to an American woman, which makes him an American citizen.
Aran is right, I was talking about McCain.
Maj - I was thinking that after I hit post and was just hoping no one would know what I was talking about but thank you.
Swervin/Ara thank you guys for the details and clearing up my ignorance on the matter.
@Rotavele - Sorry. I work with Photoshop all the time, so I'm used to those. ;) On the upside, though, at least I recognized what you were trying to say instead of mistaking it for an idiot's hashtag.
I love PS but have had trouble with inspiration lately.
The possibly troublesome phrase in the Constitution is "natural born citizen," because what that actually means wasn't defined. Most legal scholars seem to agree that if you were eligible for citizenship at birth, you're good to go. And having one
parent who was an American citizen at that time seems to be sufficient.
Which makes all the nonsense about Obama's birth total idiocy, but hey.
Few people ever mention the similar case of George Romney, Mitt's father, who campaigned for the Presidency in a primary. He was born in Mexico to a Mormon family (father & 3 wives) that had fled to Mexico. There was some quibbling over that at the
time, but nothing like the ugly ruckus over Obama's birth. You'd think the matter would have been settled then.
Yes but Obama looks different. :P
Ted Cruz is from my "home" city of beautiful Calgary, Alberta.
I for one would like to see this birth certificate because I feel he may be hiding the fact that he may be Muslim or a terrorist.
He already shut down our government once. Where is Rush Limbaugh on this one?
Maybe he's Obama's half brother, he has a million of them!
Ted Hussein Jose Barack Cruz Obama de Hawaii III
That's his real name and he was raised in Ukraine as a terrorist Muslim!