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jakecrs905 November 3rd, 2014 1:43am

Should affirmative action be based on socioeconomic background rather than race/ethnicity?

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Shua01 Ohio
11/04/14 7:59 pm

There should not be affirmative action. If women only want to hire women, gays only hire gays, blacks only hire blacks, Christians only hire Christians, then they should have the freedom to do so. Diversity is good, but we should not mandate it.

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Krazy1 One for fun
11/03/14 11:14 am

Can anyone show me where the neither button is?

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Squidboy Snarkapottamus
11/03/14 10:41 am

Absolutely- their are more poor white people in the US than all other races combined. They are close to invisible in our society. Giving poor people a hand up (not a hand out) if they are willing to work for it makes America stronger.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
11/03/14 4:45 am

There shouldn't be any affirmative action at all.

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jmw7477 Indiana
11/03/14 7:50 am

I agree.

elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
11/03/14 12:35 am

Abolish any & all forms of affirmative action. Hire someone becuz they are qualified for job, appear capable of learning job, or because you like them & want to give them a chance. Education: they have the grades & ambition to succeed. Period.

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RoDe Latinus wordsus
11/03/14 12:55 am

My grades are a reflection of my parents early investment in my education, I went to preschool, I went to private schools, anyone who had an upbringing like me is greatly privileged over everyone who didn't. My success is not due to hard work and

RoDe Latinus wordsus
11/03/14 12:57 am

commitment, it's because I was fortunate to have parents who could afford to put me on an expensive track to success. Education outcomes have way more to do with early investment than "ambition to succeed".

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
11/03/14 4:47 am

And that means you're more qualified for the job, rode. Doesn't matter whether it's your investment or your parents. Nobody cares how you became more qualified or by what means you reached that point as long as you didn't reach it via gov program.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
11/03/14 4:48 am

Gov program where preferences are given to one person over another.

eLucidate writing
11/02/14 11:45 pm

as usual, not one single person knows what affirmative action is.

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statgat Hello World
11/02/14 10:33 pm

You are asking the wrong question. What you should be asking is whether we agree with the idea of affirmative action.

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
11/02/14 10:14 pm

No. It should simply end. Period.

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suppressedID That is my secret Cap
11/02/14 9:58 pm

That would turn most of the South on its ear.

sdbrev210 The Pursuit of Happiness
11/02/14 9:47 pm

Get rid of it all together.

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gjb2779
11/02/14 9:07 pm

It would be better than race based but I think it should be abolished in hiring practices. I think schools using socioeconomic considerations makes sense bc some poor kids probably got screwed into a bad school through no fault of their own.

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Arkansas123 Neoconservative
11/02/14 8:42 pm

That would be better, but the abolition of affirmative action would be best.

Students and prospective employees should be judged based on their individual merits.

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musiman28 Cotton country
11/02/14 8:39 pm

If those are the ONLY choices, yes. Better choice, get rid of all affirmative action!

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TigerShark47 Missouri
11/02/14 8:22 pm

No, there should be no such thing as affirmative action.

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
11/02/14 8:18 pm

No. It should be abolished and advancement dependent on merit.

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saulecker Durham, NC
11/02/14 8:08 pm

I'm a liberal socialist and I don't like affirmative action. You can't fix racism with racism.

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gamerguy217
11/02/14 10:15 pm

If we are truly equals, then we should be treated as such. If you say that one group needs more help than I do, then you're saying that I'm better than they are. Because they wouldn't need more help to reach the same point if that wasn't true.

gamerguy217
11/02/14 10:15 pm

Sorry bud. Wrong thread.

gamerguy217
11/02/14 8:06 pm

I think that the entire idea of affirmative action is just government sanctioned discrimination. What else would you call that kind of preferential treatment?

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gamerguy217
11/02/14 8:07 pm

And why are they more deserving of it than all of us poor ass college students?

kermie gaytopia
11/02/14 10:07 pm

It's not preferential. It makes a group equal to another, not preferred over another.

gamerguy217
11/02/14 10:10 pm

It's absolutely preferential. Who says that one group is unequal to another? And who says that one group deserves more help than the other?

kermie gaytopia
11/02/14 10:14 pm

If you don't already know that inequality exists in the world, I can't educate you on it, sorry. Carry on with your bubble.

gamerguy217
11/02/14 10:15 pm

If we are truly equals, then we should be treated as such. If you say that one group needs more help than I do, then you're saying that I'm better than they are. Because they wouldn't need more help to reach the same point if that wasn't true.

gamerguy217
11/02/14 10:16 pm

But if you want to take inequality as a given, then you are admitting that that party cant as good as another without help. Which is discrimination.

camigirl
11/03/14 12:41 am

We are not "truly equals." That's Kermie's whole point, equality is not even close to being completely achieved.

gamerguy217
11/03/14 12:45 am

How not? Ever person in this country can succeed with effort. We have no caste system. You are not forced to stay poor. Do well in school (which is a choice), and you'll qualify for the same student loan as anyone else.

swervin Maryland
11/02/14 8:00 pm

We shouldn't have it at all, but at least base it on something that makes sense. So yes.

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Brandon1995 San Francisco
11/02/14 7:59 pm

Yes...why shouldn't we offer a hand up to people who need one?

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Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
11/02/14 7:28 pm

How about getting the feds out of the racist business.

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dominiclandry
11/02/14 7:27 pm

Affirmative action doesn't work but this is better than race. There's got to be something we can do for poorer people that might not be able to afford college though. The problem won't fix itself

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TigerShark47 Missouri
11/02/14 8:23 pm

Isn't this what student loans are already for?

dominiclandry
11/02/14 9:08 pm

Yeah but those all together need to have lower rates. It's just not a good set up in general, especially for people in my generation and below who have no clue about how to manage money

Think Lovin Life
11/02/14 7:27 pm

All discrimination -- especially the kind that is sponsored by governments-- must be stopped now!

Affirmative Action is discrimination.

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ovcourse Alzheimer Joe
11/02/14 7:27 pm

There should be no such thing. It in itself is discrimination.

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jvc1133 61535
11/02/14 7:24 pm

How about junking the whole idea?

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political Georgia
11/02/14 7:15 pm

There should be no such thing as affirmative action.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
11/02/14 7:05 pm

Affirmative Action shouldn't be.

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droo Santa Barbara
11/02/14 7:14 pm

But if it had to exist, which would you rather have?