Is love anything more than a chemical/biological process?
The way you all break down takes the whole beauty of it away. Keep your biology, chemistry and physics. It's magic.
"I love you from the bottom of my brain".
There is a huge difference between "love" and "in love".
No. The feelings experienced when falling in love are actually caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. During this experience, our brains release three key nuerochemicals; serotonin, dopamine & adrenalin. Those result in things like dry mouth,
butterflies in the belly, sweaty palms, higher levels of happy/pleasure feelings, less need for food or sleep, etc. Basically, you're experiencing a natural high that's similar to a cocaine high. The chemicals change over time and become more
attachment oriented or "cuddly" if you will. I actually call them the cuddle chemicals. Oxytocin is the primary one there.
With living things it is a biological process by definition. We don't find it outside of ourselves. Our brains are programmed by evolution. That's why people fall in love with people that may not be the best choice. They hit the right cues.
I've never experienced it myself, so while I can't be sure the overwhelming response that it is more than that gives me faith that the answer is yes.
You must not have the right chemicals :-)
That or I'm only 17
After puberty, I'm not so sure the age would really matter if you've found the right person.
Love is emotional, physical, and, above all, mental. But to describe it as nothing more than a biological process is too much simplification.
"Love is a many splendored thing"
hell wit that i just wanna fuck some hot bitches
please tattoo that on your forehead so these poor hot "bitches" can at least know what they are getting into.
Science isn't needed to explain love.
when people describe "falling in love" they are describing a biological process. Once that has happened love is a deliberate act of care and self sacrifice. When that part only happens for one person you have pain and anger. When both people are
are able to set aside their egos and take care of one another everyone wins. That is true love. Its the most difficult and rewarding work of your life.
As stated elsewhere everything about love is biological when it comes down to it. But some people just don't "love" they either don't know how or can't. So it's not inherent in people either. I think there's more to it than biology.
Brain structure maybe, the way you're "wired". Still nothing out of the ordinary. Whatever we think is a mystery is something solidly based in the laws of nature. We just can't fully explain it. Yet.
But the expression of "love" is taught. Behavior regarding relationships is learned not ingrained.
Love is a choice.
You must have never have had a crush.
A crush isn't love Rota, but I feel ya :-)
No, but our thoughts and feelings are all chemical/biological processes. It doesn't make them any less real an special.
I like to think it is, and will continue until there's proof that no part of it isn't. Then again, I also believe there's more in existence than just what we can currently see, measure, comprehend or understand. A belief that, at least in some ways,
is scientifically undeniable.
As opposed to what?
Nah. Doesn't make it any less magical though.
Do you think that "magic" is universal? (I do). Is it quantifiable? Or in attempting to quantify it, is it lost? If every biochemical, physiological, psychological, etc. process about love could be described, would it miss the essence of that magic?
I think so, because we have created that magic for ourselves. That happens through shared experience and social construction. We may someday be able to understand exactly *how* we create meaning, but the meaning itself is still ephemeral.
Technically your being is a bio/chemical process. But I don't think we'll ever understand the science of it.
No matter how complicated, there is a scientific explanation for everything. On many things, we just haven't got it completely figured out yet.
Can you identify the chemical or create it synthetically?
Well, there is no one chemical involved in love, as love encompasses many different emotions. But yes, there is extensive research on the biological and evolutionary basis of love, infatuation, and attachment. Google can help you find it. Regardless,
my question is, if there is no evidence to suggest it is supernatural, why believe it is? Shouldn't the default be natural unless we can prove it's not, as there is logical reason to believe it is supernatural?
as there is no logical reason*
I doubt anyone will ever come to a definitive conclusion on this. Being that it is built into every man/woman/child, I like to believe it has been imprinted somehow, that it goes beyond a chemical reaction.
That's why we say to those we are closest to "I love you unconditionally". With all the chemical mixtures and reactions that out body goes through each day, there is no combination of these that will ever change that simple fact.
I'm no scientist or chemist, but even a child has love mastered. It's us adults that over think it and mess it up.
I think I can. It's several but phenylethylamine plays the biggest role: www.asdn.net/asdn/chemistry/chemistry_of_love.shtml
@Optimus: "I'm no scientist BUT" usually means you want to participate in a discussion even though you know little about the subject. I "only" have a degree in computer science but have educated myself on science since age four, and I'm pushing 50.
What you just referenced is the process of the body's reaction to love/lust.
I would say 99.9% or more of people on here, are neither scientists or chemists. So you are correct, I hardly compare to the knowledge you gained from your preschool chemistry set.
I said that, as to show I am not pretending to know.
Question, genuinely, you know the chemicals involved, but what starts the chemical process?
Good question. I think evolution is the key. Creatures that mated by chemical means had an advantage over those who didn't, so evolution is the reason love works the way it does.
So, in a way, you are actually correct: love is a built-in feature - thanks to evolution :) Nothing mysterious though.
Btw, I think you got it backwards - the chemistry is not a reaction to the feelingsx the feelings are a reaction to the chemistry involved.
lol oh evolution:) well that is as good an explanation as any...including the 1 true God...personal preference in explanation:)
Well off to bed, always enjoy our friend Drooski's polls, brings up some great debates.
Your body releases these chemicals, does it not? In the case of love, one must be capable of the emotion (thus love exists before the chemical release) for the body starts the process of speeding the heart etc...
Kind of like the age old question: what came first, the chicken or the egg?
So what starts the chain reaction of chemicals?
Nothing is. Feelings boil down to biology which boils down to chemistry which boils down to physics. It doesn't matter what we subjectively feel, everything in this world is physics, matter/energy and their interaction.
And there's also societal norms. Sociology also plays a role.
Are any thoughts or feelings?