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RepMorris October 31st, 2014 9:11pm

Is it me or is the battle cry of all Democrats "You watch Fox News!! Stop watching Fox News! You just listen to Fox News! Fox News, Fox News Fox News!!" Even if you don't watch Fox News? Why don't Dems actually debate points and facts?

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sssss1 arizona
11/02/14 8:37 pm

I've heard that so many times u have no clue!

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
11/02/14 12:58 pm

This is funny because there's way too much truth to it.

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
11/02/14 1:02 pm

We should point out that this is a generalization though & not true of all of the group. But, I've seen the Fox News accusation so many times, probably as often as I've seen the false accusations of racism, that it is hard not to laugh at this.

TheeCourt Realville
11/02/14 9:26 am

Because they lack principles, are devoid of integrity and are ultimately wrong on every single issue.
Liberals have yet to create a single effective solution, throughout all of History.

grizzy Kansas
11/02/14 12:21 pm

That's a bold statement. Why do you say that?

TheeCourt Realville
11/02/14 5:26 pm

Because it's true. "Solutions" proposed by a Liberals always originate from false information, exacerbate the problem itself and cost more money, therefore negatively impacting a broader citizenry.
They're either evil, or foolish—you pick.

Spellur DDD
11/02/14 12:29 am

Its bad to generalize nearly half of the country by one generalization. I do agree that Fox News may not be the best source of news, but at the same time I know news sites like MSNBC are equally crap. Im sure if you asked a democrat to debate somethi

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Spellur DDD
11/02/14 12:30 am

ing they would, especially on this app.

sssss1 arizona
11/02/14 8:42 pm

Spellur I know we shouldn't generalize democrats like that, but whenever u say anything republican, there's always someone saying, "u watch Fox News!"

grizzy Kansas
11/01/14 11:43 pm

Well, I guess it's hard to debate when neither side has any agreed upon stipulated facts. Yes, Fox News is a problem, and when I watch it, all I see is fear-mongering, and exaggerated facts. Other media sources are similar such as MSNBC.

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grizzy Kansas
11/01/14 11:48 pm

But to the topic, I feel like a large reason why the Democrat's "battle cry" is "Fox News is a bad source" is because yes, Fox News is an awful source of misinformation, lies and propaganda.

grizzy Kansas
11/01/14 11:50 pm

They won't debate your "facts" because more times than not , Fox News will mangle the facts so much, that a legitimate method of discrediting those "facts" is simply pointing out the awful source.

grizzy Kansas
11/01/14 11:53 pm

That truth is applicable for the left too, such as MSNBC, and a big reason why you two parties cannot get along is because you cannot agree upon the facts.

CollinN
11/01/14 11:32 pm

False, I am a democrat, and i will actually debate. I love debating.

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ScrewU Gone
11/01/14 12:07 pm

Same reason they complain about the Koch brothers "buying influence" even though there are 50 bigger donors who all contribute to democrats (the Kochs give about 20% of their contributions to democrats too, btw). They're incorrigible liars.

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EagleCoder Missouri
11/01/14 3:57 pm

Please cite this. I want to see this.

SugarShaq
11/01/14 4:42 pm

"Evil Koch Brothers Rank 59th in Political Donations, ActBlue 1st"

SugarShaq
11/01/14 4:45 pm

"Liberal activists have taken to the streets to protest Koch support for museums, for the theater and the performing arts... – together or individually – choose to donate a share of their considerable wealth."

Pathetic

SugarShaq
11/01/14 2:50 am

Hahaha. And like they ever bothered watching it.

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grizzy Kansas
11/02/14 9:08 am

I'm not a democrat, but I have spent time watching Fox. I am quite ashamed if the lies, propaganda and misinformation spread on it. It's similar to MSNBC, and maybe worse.

Torfin Never Behind
11/01/14 1:05 am

Because they are being emotional rather than factual.

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dominiclandry
10/31/14 10:18 pm

Fox News is the number one cable news network. By far I believe. A liberal is likely to be correct in saying that a republican watches Fox News. It's just trying to make the majority look evil and wrong. That's a liberal strategy.

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dominiclandry
10/31/14 10:20 pm

"Act like everyone thinks the exact same way that we do and we'll make it cool". Fact is, most of America leans to the right. Most of America also doesn't vote though, but that's another issue.

musiman28 Cotton country
10/31/14 9:21 pm

No facts to debate with.

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GubraLagima Tramp 2016
10/31/14 7:04 pm

Whining about Democrats? You really are the scariest thing I've seen all Halloween

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/31/14 6:53 pm

And they studiously avoid watching FoxNews long enough to realize how fair and accurate it is 97% of the time.
But I've found a far better network - TheBlazeTV. It's on many cable systems and just took CNN Headline News' spot on DirecTV (I think).

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USA1st
10/31/14 10:26 pm

Really? I've been waiting for it to hit DirecTV. What do you mean "just took CNN's spot"?

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/31/14 11:39 pm

Glenn said on Wed or Thurs that TheBlazeTV had been given CNN Headline News' channel on DirecTV - two-thirty-something, I think he said - and he wanted viewers to thank DTV and ask them to keep TheBlaze on a non-premium channel permanently. :o)

Liberty 4,032,064
10/31/14 6:24 pm

It's sort of a combination of the straw man, genetic, and ad hominem fallacies all in one.

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swjboucher Just Run
10/31/14 5:29 pm

The great and less than powerful O has spoken out many times about the F word

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/31/14 5:28 pm

Because genetic fallacies copy-paste easier!

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think4yourself Not a safe space
10/31/14 4:51 pm

The liberals cannot back up their arguments with facts so that is one of their nonsensical fallbacks. Other words they randomly spew out include racist, homophobe, sexist, The Bible, Jesus, corporations, 1%ers, Christians, and the rich. To name a few

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Ryguy8954 Logic for Politics
10/31/14 7:06 pm

You forgot Koch brothers

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
10/31/14 4:37 pm

Sounds like you're watching too much Foxnews

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gjb2779
10/31/14 3:54 pm

No different than the liberal mainstream media argument that conservatives throw out there every other comment. NEWSFLASH - mainstream media & Fox News both suck ass.

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koalapanda The Universe
10/31/14 4:27 pm

that's why I don't prefer either. I form my own opinions, not conform to what people just say is "correct".

Brandon1995 San Francisco
10/31/14 3:47 pm

No different than how cons whine about MSM.

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Brandon1995 San Francisco
11/01/14 1:42 am

Main Stream Media! lol you knew that.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 4:37 pm

I've never seen anybody say MSM for Main Stream Media before, but interesting.

Brandon1995 San Francisco
11/01/14 4:41 pm

Well, I have. You guys complain about liberal media a lot. Don't be a hypocrite.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 4:42 pm

We do because the vast majority of the media has a liberal bias.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 4:43 pm

And on top of that, we don't do it nearly even close to how much Fox is whined about.

Brandon1995 San Francisco
11/01/14 4:50 pm

Let's just agree that bias media sucks.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 4:55 pm

We can agree on that much though.

swervin Maryland
10/31/14 3:35 pm

I love it. I hardly ever watch Fox News and when I do, it's involuntarily

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cowboy Here and There
10/31/14 3:32 pm

Liberals are perpetual children. They've never grown up.

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SugarShaq
11/01/14 2:52 am

Definitely agree!

hrankta
10/31/14 3:21 pm

Koch brothers!

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jvc1133 61535
10/31/14 3:18 pm

Idk I'm watching Fox News .

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/31/14 6:57 pm

Me too - watching Megyn Kelly right now. No one can blame me for that!

political Georgia
10/31/14 3:09 pm

Maybe because the facts are against them.

That's how they explain why the mainstream media is liberal.

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TheCameron UCF
10/31/14 3:12 pm

What facts specifically are "against" liberals?

political Georgia
10/31/14 3:21 pm

I could name some, but my main point is that liberals say my first sentence all the time when explaining why the mainstream media is liberal.

KudosToYou California
10/31/14 2:52 pm

Yes, but the right cries about MSNBC or the like just the same.

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 3:10 pm

The right barely ever mentions MSNBC from what I've seen.

trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
10/31/14 3:34 pm

That's because you have blinders on

just like I don't think the left mentions fox news that much

I sweat at least once a day I hear someone complain about "liberal media"

RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 3:38 pm

"Liberal media" includes all of the media that favors liberals, not MSNBC in particular, which is why I don't ever hear conservatives cry over MSNBC, they debate their points.

trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
10/31/14 3:41 pm

They cry over liberal media though, as much if not more than liberals cry about fox news

swervin Maryland
10/31/14 3:42 pm

I hardly ever see conservatives say anything about MSNBC. You must not use this app often if you think the amount of conservatives talking smack about MSN is even close to the amount of liberals bashing Fox.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 3:44 pm

If conservatives really cry over liberal media that much, then where are the points we make that liberals cry comes from Fox News?

KudosToYou California
10/31/14 3:44 pm

Not as often, but we're talking two different kinds of TV.
Fox is available to everyone while MSNBC is not.

MFDOOM natural selection
11/01/14 5:07 am

I honestly think both parties have terribly baised news channels, but MSNBC is WAY MORE baised and is barely nentioned

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 2:37 pm

Many conservatives tune out non-conservative sources of news and information, even believing non-biased sources of news are lying when they pose views contrary to what they heard in conservative media. Fox News just gets blamed the most.

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 2:43 pm

Would you say Liberals do the same with liberal sources?

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 4:35 pm

Yes, but you have to admit the liberal echo chamber is pretty small and diverse compared to the right wing media giants.

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 4:37 pm

MSNBC tells the truth more often than Fox News, but you still can't trust them either. They all apparently have an agenda: thought control. www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/nbc/

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 4:37 pm

We all need to stop being lazy consumers of media.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 5:00 pm

There is no way on God's green earth you could ever convince anybody that Conservatives have a greater influence in the media than liberals. Liberals outnumber conservatives in the media easily.

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 5:11 pm

I don't believe the liberal media BS. Media runs the full spectrum. On talk radio it's almost entirely conservative. I hear conservatives say NPR is liberal, but it's likely because they don't tell you what you heard from Hannity or Limbaugh.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 5:18 pm

Radio is all conservatives really have, and we don't even dominate it.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 4:14 pm

I don't know that conservative media dominates the market, but it has a hold over its listeners, somehow ensuring they don't go anywhere else for information never questioning the content.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 4:36 pm

Where specifically does conservative new sources prevent their users from going anywhere else for information?

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 4:49 pm

I don't know, but it's been studied: conservatives trust only a handful of media sources while liberals trust a large variety. I personally think it's all the constant talk about "liberal media" that scares conservatives away from diversifying.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 4:50 pm

Liberals technically trust more sources because most are liberal. And they wave that around like crazy to say "look how open minded we are!" But if you show them a conservative source, they'll call you an extremist.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 4:57 pm

It amazes me to listen to different conservative media throughout the day and I'll hear the same "talking points" repeated, even by guests, on different shows. It's like they all got the memo and are hammering it in.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 4:58 pm

This is a great tactic. If you hear something often enough you'll believe it and then you'll question a different source that dares to say it's not true.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 5:00 pm

Liberal media doesn't do that at all....

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 5:08 pm

The super liberal sites might, like msnbc or dailykos, but it just isn't as pervasive. There are just too many media sites that liberals trust for them all to get on the same page and agree on today's agenda.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 5:13 pm

Liberals will be liberals, no matter who reports the news to them.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 6:27 pm

Probably, but they'll be better informed than the conservative that only listens to Rush and Fox News.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 6:29 pm

Republicans listen to other sources too. And they'll be more informed than those that only listen to Rachael Maddow and CNN.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 6:33 pm

But that's my point. Very few liberals get their news from only a few sources. They trust a wide variety of media. You won't find very many liberals that only watch MSNBC or CNN to get their news, while most conservatives only watch Fox News.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 6:35 pm

That is quite simply a sleazy lie.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 6:48 pm

But you probably don't trust people research do you?

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 6:50 pm

So Liberals are more open minded and trusting of more sources of news even though the four news sources watched by them cited are liberally biased? No. Their not all the same. They're watching many different liberal sources and then saying "look how

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 6:50 pm

Much we look around for our news for different points of view!" No. Their the same thing.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 6:51 pm

You also just contradicted yourself because less than half of conservatives cited Fox News as their main source of news.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/01/14 6:52 pm

Your link proved your own statement, "while most conservatives only watch Fox News.", to be false.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 6:55 pm

Well, I'm not perfect but I was pretty damn close at 47%.

TreeHugs Oregon
11/01/14 6:56 pm

I figured it be more like 60%

rons screw politicians
10/31/14 2:20 pm

They are afraid of the truth!

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koalapanda The Universe
10/31/14 2:16 pm

we mainly say that to conservatives who don't actually fact check. Fox news is well know to give false/incomplete truths.

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 2:17 pm

Like what specifically?

koalapanda The Universe
10/31/14 2:22 pm

too many to pick out unfortunately. its not just thought by us in america, there are countries in Europe that even know of foxs' corruption. they also tend to only favor Christian-Republucan values. CNN criticizes both parties.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 2:25 pm

There is no such thing of there being too many. If there is truly abundant examples, cite one specifically.

Haha, CNN, or as I call it Clinton News Network, who defended him mercilessly. Calling CNN impartial is insane.

RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/31/14 2:42 pm

Double post. But anyway, that is often rating the truthfulness of Fox News based on statements of opinion, not reporting.

crewsmissle Florida
10/31/14 3:43 pm

I have to point out....some of those statements on polifact were made my liberals ON Fox. Not necessarily by Fox. So don't lambaste Fox as this false conservative news network when some false statements made were by liberals ON Fox.

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 4:24 pm

I agree that most of these folks are voicing opinion. Unfortunately, many folks don't seem to know the difference and believe every word. You have to fact check everything these days.

TreeHugs Oregon
10/31/14 4:24 pm

Sorry about the double post. My iPad had a hiccup.

crewsmissle Florida
10/31/14 7:11 pm

agreed. One source isn't enough

USA1st
10/31/14 10:32 pm

Fox gives a voice to BOTH sides of their stories more than I've ever heard any other news network. Are they completely "fair and balanced"? Of course not. No one is, but they do present both sides of issues way more than other networks.

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
11/01/14 4:09 pm

I saw both those links, and most were half truths. How sad of today's media